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Title: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 17, 2017, 06:57:29 PM
I don't want to overly pollute ELI with too many threads on the "Voices of Jupiter Florida" blog matter so I have created this thread to comment on the "smear of the day" by Jessica/Joel.

To kick things off, exactly how many Jupiter businesses and citizens can VOJF name and tag in Jupiter Florida?  I think we need to make some additional suggestions.

What about Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago? They might just be bad for Jupiter Florida also.  I think we should also name Jupiter Animal Control for all the dirty, mangy dogs and cats they store in their cages.

I think we should also name every single neighbor within Robert's subdivision just because we wouldn't want to miss anyone.

I also propose naming every school volleyball team and every volleyball coach in Jupiter because they are terrible people for hosting volleyball tournaments.

I also propose adding every schoolteacher and principal while we are at it, just because they are remotely connected to volleyball tournaments.

(In case someone is humor-impaired, everything here is tongue-in-cheek to make a point.)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 18, 2017, 06:27:32 PM
I'm sure this thread is going to get fairly active, I have some stuff to say, especially since it now seems the voices behind VOJF want me to shut up...thats like telling a 2 year old to not touch the cookie jar...
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 19, 2017, 12:31:06 PM
Just so happens that todays VOJF post is nothing but a pleading to our volleyball club to distance itself from the "likes" of me, and purely by coincidence yesterday I received a text from the Director whose name has been used in an attempt to tarnish my reputation..Turns out this text was in regards to shooting team photos and head shots for the Club.. Clearly she is not buying into any of the BS that VOJF is spewing. Hopefully I won't have to fight my way through a line of picketing protesters this weekend!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 19, 2017, 02:59:41 PM
Well, maybe if Linda adds one of her comments to the VOJF blog, it might carry a bit more weight. LOL!  ;D

Actually, I am starting to get in a weird mood. I think I want to beat up on your son and talk shit about him. I haven't seen him in a few years. Time for an online tongue lashing for him on ELI just because he has the Krausankas name. Oh, wait, he turned 18 that is why we need to beat up on him.  ::)

Who else has the Krausankas name that we can bring in to randomly disparage and tarnish?   ;)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 19, 2017, 03:37:34 PM
Yes it's pretty low to drag my family into this and disparage them, but that's what "Losers" do when they have nothing else, and they want to seemingly divert the true topic of conversation away from themselves. One doesn't need to be a rocket scientist to see and understand this. I have more thoughts on this publicly available over on copyright-trolls.com

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on January 19, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
I think you should ask Joel how much he makes in his trolling business and how much he thinks your negative comments are costing him.  Then, of course, you can ask him how much all the time and effort of VOJF is costing him, let alone befriending lonely Linda.

After you get a nice dialogue going, letting him know that you are first and foremost a businessman, you can then ask him how much he would be willing to pay you on a monthly basis to ignore his little trolling business.  Of course, you would want to negotiate for a while because he isn't going to start with his best offer.  Through this whole process you need to thank him for bringing you closer to your neighbors and the volleyball club. 

Then, when you get him close to settling on a price, you can choose to either accept it or let him know that you can't be bought.  Of  course, I know which option you will choose, but why not have some fun with the guy - all the while recording the conversations which can be used against him on a website of public opinion.

I'm not sure if I've been watching too many mafia movies - or what.  If I had unlimited time and resources, I might drop everything and help you f@@@ with the guy, but unfortunately (at the moment) I believe that life is too short.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 19, 2017, 04:42:07 PM
Stinger,

You bring up good points. It is true that Robert and a few of us have spent some time to get some rebuttals out to set the record straight.

But if Joel/Jessica wants to keep spending money on hosting his Squarespace log and daily dream up new ways of trying to insult and shame Robert and the Jupiter community, I guess that is his time to waste. But the cat is out of the bag on VOJF and what it is all about.

Now, it is largely entertainment to see what new post will go up on VOJF. Will there be 365 posts by the end of 2017? That is a lot of time and effort to try to insult and shame Robert and the Jupiter community.

My guess is that if enough Jupiter citizens are insulted and tagged, there will certainly be picketing..... in Rhode Island!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 19, 2017, 05:42:40 PM
Got to be a record as to how many "guests" are here today!
Way to go Joel Albrizio and Linda Ellis!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 20, 2017, 02:20:38 AM
I got a bit of a surprise tonight. ELI Team member Greg Troy notified us that DieTrollDie.com (fights and reports on porn trolls) has written about the VOJF story.

Apparently, they got wind of the VOJF story and have made a huge discovery.  He was able to determine the true source and solved the mystery of the "Jessica Langston" photo from the Facebook page purported to her Facebook page. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/charming-mother-present-sit-on-chair-517009117

Read what DieTrollDie has to say about VOJF:
https://dietrolldie.com/2017/01/19/three-troll-post-not-prenda-but-still-all-idiots-19-jan-2017/  (Go to Story #3)

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 20, 2017, 12:07:58 PM
Ironic how "Jessica"s profile picture was a combo of 2 istock images, most likely neither one licensed..
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 20, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
Today Linda Ellis decided to chime and and deny involvement of the VOJF blog.. I tend to believe her for the most part, however, it was of her own choice to comment those couple of times, it was her own choice to re-upload the "crunt" video to her OWN youtube channel. Thus it's on her shoulders for injecting herself into this charade..

She continues to twist facts in regards to the video...Matthew has "confessed" to saying "crunt" and coming up with the word.. nowhere on that video do I utter that word, I only "giggle like a 13 yr old".

She also alludes that i spend hours upon hours creating memes, truth of the matter is, I have lots of better things to do with my time, those memes take less than 2 minutes to create, or roughly as long as it takes her to churn out some cheesy inspirational quote.

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 20, 2017, 05:10:04 PM
I got a bit of a surprise tonight. ELI Team member Greg Troy notified us that DieTrollDie.com (fights and reports on porn trolls) has written about the VOJF story.

Apparently, they got wind of the VOJF story and have made a huge discovery.  He was able to determine the true source and solved the mystery of the "Jessica Langston" photo from the Facebook page purported to her Facebook page. https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/charming-mother-present-sit-on-chair-517009117

Read what DieTrollDie has to say about VOJF:
https://dietrolldie.com/2017/01/19/three-troll-post-not-prenda-but-still-all-idiots-19-jan-2017/  (Go to Story #3)

This must have contributed to the online "guests" yesterday. Good article by DTD and reference to the unforgettable "Jules Winnfield " character.
 8)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 20, 2017, 06:28:53 PM
This is Linda's response to her connection to VOJF: 
http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

Linda certainly has a right to speak out and express her dismay about us but she should know by now we are very vigorous in setting the record and context straight.  She has a tendency to distort things in a very bad way. She is also very loose with the facts. She felt the need to inject herself into the VOJF thing without even researching the background of Adlife Marketing or Joel. So now, she becomes a topic of discussion dredging up shit that I was perfectly content in leaving in the past.

So, I hope she is satisfied with my public confessional on "crunt". I don't expect I will lose readership, friends, or business because of that crime against all of humanity.

That video was NEVER intended for her to view but she wants to make "a thing of it" simply because Robert was on the video listening to me rant about all her freaking shenanigans. She wants to convince others that Robert and I look like we just randomly picked her to "cyberbully" her. GMAFB.  She is constantly crying about ELI people "cyberbullying" her simply because we express our dismay ABOUT her.  Maybe we should peel back the last 15 years and find out from the published list of her victims (and the list April Brown maintains) who paid THOUSANDS of dollars to Linda if they felt they were "bullied" by her and Jolin.  Maybe we need to do a financial estimate of how much income she generated over the years and managed to extract from people from her "legal bullying" and how it probably supported her comfortable, middle-class lifestyle. 

I could go on and on and make my case very effectively and truthfully. And she can continue to cry about how she is being "cyberbullied". That is actually an insult to true victims of cyberbullies because I have actually done research on the matter.

If Linda wants to make a thing of an out-of-context rant on an episode of ELI Factor or one of my forum posts, then fine. I won't run away from it. I will explain it in very simple terms.  Let's get it all out in the open and revisit the role of Betsy McBride's unprofessional behavior of not return my calls or emails in 2013, Timmy McCormack and his bullshit affidavit, John Jolin's bogus DMCA complaint, her $100,000 extortion letter, the eApps web hosting affair, etc.  I have a long list. 

Take for example, the court exhibits in Ellis v. Chan from 2013.  She conveniently cropped out the very items that would explain the supposed "threats" against her. In fact, one can even go to the now disabled LE/LL/DP Forum to see for themselves how fucked up the court distortions were compared to the reality of it all.

http://defiantly.net/cleaning-up-the-chan-v-ellis-mess-part-2/

I made sure Judge Jordan and Betsy McBride saw what she did with her bogus exhibits when I submitted my post-appeal declaration and got it on the record. I stand by what I wrote there.  Quite simply, Linda got lucky and sucker-punched me with incomplete, cropped posts. I never saw it coming with my own naivete. Linda was quite clever and sneaky I will give her that.

Bottom line, she won because I was a terrible lawyer for myself and she misled the court with her bogus, cropped, distorted, and muddied exhibits.

While I cannot speak for Betsy, I feel quite certain going forward, Betsy will more carefully vet any future clients or any claims any future client might make.  And Betsy won't take shit for exhibits and embarrass herself in court. Make no mistake. It was embarrassing for Betsy and not a highlight in her career to represent Linda.

Ultimately, Linda made Betsy look like a fool by overplaying the "female victim card" against a "big bad scary man behind a keyboard" and the GA Supreme Court Justices were very tough on Betsy and Timmy.

Linda relished VOJF and decided to partake to get her jabs in.  Robert and I (the two guys Linda despises the most) never believed Linda was responsible for VOJF. And both Robert and I actually DEFENDED Linda in that regard. Robert and I were UNITED in saying (behind the scenes and publicly) we did not believe Linda was behind VOJF. For us, based on our instincts and information, it all pointed to Joel (or someone in Camp Albrizio).

And honestly, Jessica/Joel essentially USED Linda's victimhood and threw her under the bus.  She just didn't know it.  It was convenient for Jessica/Joel to jump on Linda's victim bandwagon. And Linda played right into it.

The VOJF affair is basically a Joel vs. Robert fight but she just wanted to get in there and mix it up. Fine, let's see how many other people want to mix it up and take sides in this War of Words.

Today Linda Ellis decided to chime and and deny involvement of the VOJF blog.. I tend to believe her for the most part, however, it was of her own choice to comment those couple of times, it was her own choice to re-upload the "crunt" video to her OWN youtube channel. Thus it's on her shoulders for injecting herself into this charade..

She continues to twist facts in regards to the video...Matthew has "confessed" to saying "crunt" and coming up with the word.. nowhere on that video do I utter that word, I only "giggle like a 13 yr old".

She also alludes that i spend hours upon hours creating memes, truth of the matter is, I have lots of better things to do with my time, those memes take less than 2 minutes to create, or roughly as long as it takes her to churn out some cheesy inspirational quote.

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 20, 2017, 09:05:51 PM
April Brown, author of Poetic Justice, commented on the VOJF situation and the Linda Ellis (Dash Poet) connection. (Please note that her post was 3 days ago and doesn't necessarily reflect the latest information)

http://www.aprilbrown.com/copyright-infringement-the-das/2017/1/17/shocked-im-not-linda-ellis-and-joel-albrizio-not-so-strange.html
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on January 20, 2017, 09:12:52 PM
I got home tonight all set to give my two cents the Ms. Ellis comment but I think Robert and Matthew covered all the points I wanted to make.  I will just reiterate two things.
1) I do tend to believe her statement that the only thing she did was make a comment, I felt that was sincere.
2) I am still amazed at how she can still continue to make statements like Robert said the word in question when ANYONE watching it can see he never says it. 
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 04:24:32 PM
My post is in reference to Linda's response on CRT:
http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

For years, Linda Ellis has been crying to anyone that would listen how "we" were "cyberbullying" her. My position was that her accusations were actually an insult to true victims of cyberbullying. She doesn't understand the true issues.

Linda can see for herself what is going down on VOJF. It ain't about Jupiter. It is all about taking down Robert and CRT. And Linda can see for herself the cause she "joined" in VOJF and the tactics being used against the ENTIRE Krausankas family and some Jupiter volleyball members.

She might think twice before shouting "I am a cyberbully victim" next time. She now has something as a basis of comparison. She can self-reflect on this.

1. Wife being named constantly to tarnish her online reputation.
2.  18-year old son named constantly to tarnish his online reputation at his early career.
3.  Constant mentions to the "minor daughter".
4.  Jupiter Volleyball orgs named frequently to smear their name
5. A Jupiter volleyball coach being named frequently to smear her name.
6. Clients being contact and emailed.
7.  An "anonymous" blogger who is probably impersonating a woman because he is too cowardly to stand by his own writings.
8.  All the references to Linda and the memes, is VOJF really trying to help her?  Or is the blogger doing all this for entirely self-serving reasons? Is she being thrown under the bus? As long as VOJF remains up, Linda remains tied to it via her comments and all the stuff Jessica/Joel is writing in reference to her.

As I said elsewhere, VOJF has just become one big fuckfest and the list of innocent names being tagged and named grow larger and larger and it has not even hit a full 30-days yet? How big will all this get?  Will this get to 100 posts where EVERY post is about the Krausankas family?

Is this something Linda would condone or endorse even against someone who insulted her? She was very quick to jump on the VOJF bandwagon to comment.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 04:29:55 PM
I made a lengthy response to Linda's snippy, tongue-lashing against Robert:

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-873
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 21, 2017, 05:50:38 PM
Jessica / Joel is certainly using Linda Ellis for his/her own selfish purposes, if she thinks for one minute he cares an iota about her, she's in a for a big let down...he'll toss her to the curb when he's done and won't look back. Yes Linda Ellis can dislike me, and even hate me if she chooses to, for reporting on her all this time, but she also must realize I have never ( nor anyone else for that matter) gone to the extremes that Joel is going to.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 21, 2017, 07:32:16 PM
http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

It is interesting to me that as per Ellis' comment on CRT, she seems to feel that someone going after "family members" or "innocents" is "someone with a backbone". Robert is correct in stating that no one ever did such a thing to Albrizio or Ellis with this regard.

Although Ellis did not do what Jessy/Joel is doing, she did have her own "extremes" such as filing a "bogus" PPO against Matthew. There were plenty of "falsehoods" in that whole fiasco for sure.

I tend to also believe that Ellis is not involved with VOJF. She's involved not because of "immature creations" as she put it but because she's a troll whom has been reported. Period...end.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 21, 2017, 07:52:14 PM
http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

Just one more thing I want to add...

In all of Ellis' "preaching" in telling Robert "what kind of man he should be",
she herself would never resort to immature "name calling" right "Snuffleupagus"?

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 08:48:18 PM
Good point on her little name-calling digs.  She also used one of my favorite name calls by writing: "you morons". I got a smile on that one.

I was actually surprised she used the term "pissed off" as well.

In all of Ellis' "preaching" in telling Robert "what kind of man he should be",
she herself would never resort to immature "name calling" right "Snuffleupagus"?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 09:04:48 PM
Linda is wrong, as usual.  Jessica/Joel does NOT have a backbone. He is posting "anonymously" under the guise of "concerned citizens/parents of Jupiter". It is an OUTRIGHT LIE.  He won't post under his own name or true identity. He uses a fake premise (ANOTHER LIE) to launch a smear blog. A middle-aged business guy who impersonates a young woman online to trash a family of innocents? GMAB.

Any idiot can launch an anonymous blog and lob insults and distorted accusations as "anonymous" blogger. And also, the fake commenters? Seriously?  Our network of bloggers and commenters don't engage in that type of fakery.

Jessica/Joel has no support that any of us can see. Every email that Jessica/Joel sent to others seemed to be treated as Spam or they informed Robert of the "weird emails".

And regarding Linda's "extremes"? Don't get me started on another rant. I got three words for her:  "ALTERED COURT EXHIBITS"! She and her lawyer, Betsy, get to own that one.

Or how about Linda making the rounds on calling April's husband, contacts, etc.? We all know how that turned out. April got really unhappy. Not only was it all ineffective (no one cared), Linda got herself a free negative publicist out of it. April has now become a storage place of a majority of Linda Lyric's letters.

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

It is interesting to me that as per Ellis' comment on CRT, she seems to feel that someone going after "family members" or "innocents" is "someone with a backbone". Robert is correct in stating that no one ever did such a thing to Albrizio or Ellis with this regard.

Although Ellis did not do what Jessy/Joel is doing, she did have her own "extremes" such as filing a "bogus" PPO against Matthew. There were plenty of "falsehoods" in that whole fiasco for sure.

I tend to also believe that Ellis is not involved with VOJF. She's involved not because of "immature creations" as she put it but because she's a troll whom has been reported. Period...end.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 09:07:05 PM
You shouldn't write that. Linda might feel "threatened" and get a protective order against you for it.

he'll toss her to the curb when he's done and won't look back.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 21, 2017, 09:16:21 PM
April Brown wrote a long commentary from the female perspective 3 days ago about this whole weird VOJF thing. It is worth reading.

http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/anonymous-blogger-adlife-marketing-attempts-to-shame-copyright-trolls-com-into-going-offline/#comment-841
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on January 21, 2017, 09:28:40 PM
http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

It is interesting to me that as per Ellis' comment on CRT, she seems to feel that someone going after "family members" or "innocents" is "someone with a backbone". Robert is correct in stating that no one ever did such a thing to Albrizio or Ellis with this regard.

Although Ellis did not do what Jessy/Joel is doing, she did have her own "extremes" such as filing a "bogus" PPO against Matthew. There were plenty of "falsehoods" in that whole fiasco for sure.


While I now too tend to believe Linda, that she was not involved I do disagree with your statement above Peeved.  Here is why, I think she did go to the same place Joel-ica is going.

In her attempts to silence April for reporting on her business model:

1) Linda Ellis sent emails to her husband's work place trying to get him fired.

2)  Linda Ellis took out Google Ads that would appear if someone searched for April's Charity Auction business or April and appear to be from April.  When clicked on it took you to a smear page full of lies and twisted facts then offered links and phone numbers to April's competitors. There have been at least 5 google campaigns I am aware of and have screen captures of.

3) If I remember correctly Linda Ellis also tried to contact some of April's clients

4) Linda Ellis filed false DMCA takedown requests against ELI and I believe Robert.

5)  As you mentioned Linda Ellis filed a false stalking charge against Matthew by only taking a few sentences out of a many page statement and use it to obtain a temporary and then permanent PPO.  Which BTW one of the Justices at the GA Supreme court even chastised  Ellis's team on this saying if you read the WHOLE thing and in context there is no threat.

6)  Once Linda Ellis had a PPO against Matthew because she was "in fear of her life from him" she started creating and publishing all kinds of things like the video (again it was a 40+ min video and she snips a few minutes and taken in context it is obvious that Matthew is venting about the things that Linda has done to him and issues language warnings at the start) and uses them to taunt Matthew knowing he can't respond without violating his PPO.  What true victim in fear of their life taunts the person they came they are in fear of?

7) When I started reporting on my site Linda Ellis's response was to attempt to post comments on my businesses website blog, FB page, Twitter and Youtube accounts along with a link to her snippet video trying to get to my customers. 

I could go on and but this is why I do think she is like Joel-ica and why I initially thought she was helping Joel-ica because the tactics were so similar.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 21, 2017, 10:07:22 PM
Why I do declare Greg Troy, I stand corrected.
 :P

Funny, after I posted that I did start thinking about April Brown and her husband's employer being contacted.
I had actually forgotten about Ellis contacting Greg's business sites as well.

I've had a lot of things jumbling up the old mind since then. Glad Greg's mind is sharp as a tack.
Thanks for the walk down memory lane Greg....I think...ugh!
 ::)


http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/the-war-of-words-and-how-low-copyright-trolls-will-go/#comment-858

It is interesting to me that as per Ellis' comment on CRT, she seems to feel that someone going after "family members" or "innocents" is "someone with a backbone". Robert is correct in stating that no one ever did such a thing to Albrizio or Ellis with this regard.

Although Ellis did not do what Jessy/Joel is doing, she did have her own "extremes" such as filing a "bogus" PPO against Matthew. There were plenty of "falsehoods" in that whole fiasco for sure.


While I now too tend to believe Linda, that she was not involved I do disagree with your statement above Peeved.  Here is why, I think she did go to the same place Joel-ica is going.

In her attempts to silence April for reporting on her business model:

1) Linda Ellis sent emails to her husband's work place trying to get him fired.

2)  Linda Ellis took out Google Ads that would appear if someone searched for April's Charity Auction business or April and appear to be from April.  When clicked on it took you to a smear page full of lies and twisted facts then offered links and phone numbers to April's competitors. There have been at least 5 google campaigns I am aware of and have screen captures of.

3) If I remember correctly Linda Ellis also tried to contact some of April's clients

4) Linda Ellis filed false DMCA takedown requests against ELI and I believe Robert.

5)  As you mentioned Linda Ellis filed a false stalking charge against Matthew by only taking a few sentences out of a many page statement and use it to obtain a temporary and then permanent PPO.  Which BTW one of the Justices at the GA Supreme court even chastised  Ellis's team on this saying if you read the WHOLE thing and in context there is no threat.

6)  Once Linda Ellis had a PPO against Matthew because she was "in fear of her life from him" she started creating and publishing all kinds of things like the video (again it was a 40+ min video and she snips a few minutes and taken in context it is obvious that Matthew is venting about the things that Linda has done to him and issues language warnings at the start) and uses them to taunt Matthew knowing he can't respond without violating his PPO.  What true victim in fear of their life taunts the person they came they are in fear of?

7) When I started reporting on my site Linda Ellis's response was to attempt to post comments on my businesses website blog, FB page, Twitter and Youtube accounts along with a link to her snippet video trying to get to my customers. 

I could go on and but this is why I do think she is like Joel-ica and why I initially thought she was helping Joel-ica because the tactics were so similar.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on January 22, 2017, 09:00:36 PM
It's all good Peeved, you know I love ya.  I was just saying I disagreed (respectfully) with you and was listing the reasons why.  I will say the more I thought about all the crap Lida Ellis had done and does to her victims the more it got me going.  If it came across as yelling or scolding, it was not my intention and I apologise my friend.  :)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 23, 2017, 12:12:16 AM
It's all good Peeved, you know I love ya.  I was just saying I disagreed (respectfully) with you and was listing the reasons why.  I will say the more I thought about all the crap Lida Ellis had done and does to her victims the more it got me going.  If it came across as yelling or scolding, it was not my intention and I apologise my friend.  :)

OMG Greg...of COURSE it's all good! No offense what so ever! Love ya right back buddy.
 :-*

I'm actually quite GLAD that you posted all of that. It was an ugly ride for sure and I do unfortunately remember it all too well.
My initial thought was pertaining to the actual "blog" when I said that Ellis did not do the "Jolica" thing.
I mean not the way specifically that "Jolica" is doing it anyway.
I wonder if she is thinking that wow she could have had a V8 on that one?

Errrrrrrrr! She did plenty as you reminded us all!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 23, 2017, 09:20:24 AM
I think you should ask Joel how much he makes in his trolling business and how much he thinks your negative comments are costing him.  Then, of course, you can ask him how much all the time and effort of VOJF is costing him, let alone befriending lonely Linda.

After you get a nice dialogue going, letting him know that you are first and foremost a businessman, you can then ask him how much he would be willing to pay you on a monthly basis to ignore his little trolling business.  Of course, you would want to negotiate for a while because he isn't going to start with his best offer.  Through this whole process you need to thank him for bringing you closer to your neighbors and the volleyball club. 

Then, when you get him close to settling on a price, you can choose to either accept it or let him know that you can't be bought.  Of  course, I know which option you will choose, but why not have some fun with the guy - all the while recording the conversations which can be used against him on a website of public opinion.

I'm not sure if I've been watching too many mafia movies - or what.  If I had unlimited time and resources, I might drop everything and help you f@@@ with the guy, but unfortunately (at the moment) I believe that life is too short.

Apparently according to todays' post, I have broken the law on many levels, because Stinger stated the above, and of which I didn't even comment on until just now... ??? ??? :o
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on January 23, 2017, 10:45:24 AM
I am not surprised that Joel Albrizio (masquerading as Jessica Langston on his slander website Voice of Jupiter Florida) is grabbing comments out of context on ELI and our blogs, in an effort to justify is own disgusting actions. This is the same failed tactic Linda Ellis tried when the Linda Ellis Forum was active. That dope foolishly submitted her "out of context" evidence to two courts and we all know how that turned our for her. Even after Ellis humiliated herself and her attorneys she orchestrated an interview with an Atlanta television stations and tried to spin the story that she was a victim of the First Amendment and that she is legally being bullied. She's tried to align herself with the anti-bullying movement and not a single organization wants the likes of Linda Ellis among them. The facts speak for themselves. Linda Ellis is a copyright troll and a liar and a very creepy person.

Albrizio is a guy who claims to be running and empire - remember Linda Ellis claims to sell hundreds of thousands of books and claims to be wealthy as a result of books sales. Ha! We know that both have horrific business practices that need to be examined and changed. HOw do we know that? Because the people they have attacked and bullied talk. Both have destroyed partnerships with business practices that have been labeled as deceptive. We know both cowardly hide behind fake names and aliases. Both have invented and foster hate and destruction that did not exist until they created the problems. Both are now joined at the hips. My guess is that this dope Albrizio will file some kind of dirtbag lawsuit and he too will end up publicly humiliated as Ellis has. All this guy needs to do is look around him at what he's created and what he's destroyed.

Since December 22, Albrizio has tried to intimidate Robert's wife and children. He is trying to draw the attention of Robert's wife's employer and cast aspersions on their charitable work. He's tried to paint Robert and his family as anti-gay and degenerates. He's published their places of work, schools they attend, and even contacted his childrens soccer coaches knowing that Robert's family has nothing to do with his anti-copyright trolling activism.  We have not talked about his daughter and sons and grandchildren.  My guess is that the fruit may have fallen close to the tree and my guess is they have lived less than perfect lives. My guess is that from his children's twitter feed alone, much can be inferred. Should we post  the hundreds of sexually suggestive modeling poses of his daughter and label them as porn? Should we share the mean girl stories we know about? Should people post photos of his home address? How about divorce papers? Ex-relationships - some intimate - are all too willing to rip this guy to shreds. I applaud both Robert and Matthew for restraining themselves and keeping this stuff under wraps.

Like Linda Ellis, he is a liar and if he were as successful and the rich playboy his carefully cultivated image reflects he would be busy managing that empire. Clearly his empire is crumbling. Can you imagine any celebrity - and he thinks he's a celebrity - spending their "value per minute" creating a slander blog and posting on it daily?

Albrizio is filled with fear fueled by financial losses and aging. Ellis has the exact same scenario playing out in her head and life. He need only take a drive to Marietta Georgia and see if he really wants to live isolated and ridiculed. I imagine, like Ellis, he is tormented by his thoughts and can't sleep. He awakes in the middle of the night with the need to reach out to us. Ellis has the very same problem.  His attempt to "expose" us individually as pornographers, criminals, immoral and liars will fail. We don't have to make this shit up. They do.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 25, 2017, 06:26:32 PM
It is very hard to get this genie back in the bottle.  "Joel-sica" (stealing from Greg's nickname of Jessica/Joel) may or may not realize that he has actually taken his own narrative in a very STRANGE direction seemingly impersonating a woman to pen and host VOJF.  (He has strangely not issued any denials or accused someone else of VOJF). Before VOJF, it was Robert writing and commenting on CRT about Adlife Marketing & Joel. Very straightforward stuff.

But with the debut of VOJF, Joel-sica has taken everything down a serious rabbit hole with unintended consequences. He tried to "defend" Linda's honor but we are pretty certain Linda's name and complaints were being hijacked for his own purposes. Along the way, he dredged up shit relating to Linda (with Linda being all too suspiciously cooperative) that have stuck under my craw (the altered/cropped court exhibits and Betsy McBride's cheating not vetting her client's exhibits for example) and Linda's inane "video snippets". So, no one is supposed to comment on Linda given that she provided the distorted fodder to Joel-sica on VOJF? Not hardly.

Linda wants to get her digs in on me and Robert (through her pitiful video snippets) but also feels the need to defender herself of CRT because she feels that her role was mischaracterized. Of course, we have to point out how disingenuous and hypocritical her complaints are.

As a liberal, progressive woman, April brings up brings up interesting arguments of how anyone can take a basic of neutral actions and then pervert, twist, and bastardize it into weird/distorted ways using a budding entertainer/singer/model as a potential example. We saw how frequently Linda did this exact twsty, distorted, out of context thing and that is why some members suspected Linda as being part of VOJF. Very similar modes of operating and attacking. It fools only the uninformed.

But no one has gone there. Yet, Joel-sica keeps pounding away on Robert's wife and son as if the reverse could not be done.  Exactly how long does Joel-sica expect Robert to stay quiet and not "go there"?  Is Joel-sica trying to goad Robert into "going there" with the relentless attacks on his "innocents"? Honestly, if MY "innocents" or family were being relentlessly attacked or smeared, I would be stupid not to consider it. Personally, I think Robert has been way too subdued but I also understand the idea of not wasting time and energy on stupid stuff.

And That is what VOJF is about.  Bringing in the "innocents" and blatantly "weaponizing" them to accomplish a specific objective:  take down CRT or minimally silence Robert indefinitely. But it lacks credibility.  To keep Robert "in line", Joel-sica is going to have to devote every fucking day to this project coming up with new shit to talk about without crossing over to libel territory.

It has been 32 days so far.  How many more ways can Joel-sica insult, twist, or attempt to tarnish Robert?  I supposed Joel-sica hasn't yet insinuated that Robert could be a cannibal, animal beater, or serial rapist. After all, Joel-sica has repeatedly made cracks about Robert and "little girls".  That is walking pretty close to the edge of the cliff is you ask me. Exactly how close to the edge is Joel-sica trying to take things?

Exactly how far, is Joel-sica going to keep hammering and tarnishing Robert's "innocents" is my question? And does Joel-sica naively expect that someone might not toy with the idea of executing a "reverse attack"?  April Brown certainly got that idea all on her own and spoke her mind. God help the person who ever tried to attack April directly. A can of whup-ass would be considered a sedative if that ever happened. April would probably "go there" if she was pushed hard enough.

On a different front, DieTrollDie has publicly reported that the "Jessica Langston" FB account has been taken down. We are not sure if Joel-sica took it down himself or FB itself took it down. However, it is a new development.

https://dietrolldie.com/2017/01/19/three-troll-post-not-prenda-but-still-all-idiots-19-jan-2017/

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on January 25, 2017, 06:55:32 PM
I'm mainly being "subdued" for a couple of reasons..the whole VOJF blog is so outlandish and crazy, I just waste unlimited amounts of time, obviously anyone with half a brain, that reads that garbage will see it for what it is...a bunch of BS. I'm also focusing on staying in my lane and taking the high road, in regards to dragging other innocents into this.. I'm not saying I won't go there, it's entirely possible, but for today, I stand as the better man.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on January 26, 2017, 12:45:49 AM
Well said Matthew, I think you sum it up nicely.  Also the more Joel-sica keeps at it the more coverage VOJF, Joel-sica  and Adlife Marketing gets.  Stories that don't go away get coverage and the longer they go on the more coverage they get and the more outlets pick up the story. All the evidence, albeit circumstantial, points to Joel-sica. It started out with Adlife Marketing and CEO Joel Albrizio just being covered by CRT. Then Mr. Albrizio called Robert and threatened him on the phone with the “You are a sick bastard!”, “I am going to destroy you!”, “Your life will be ruined!” and “You have no idea what’s coming!” statements.  After that and VOJF popped up coverage was picked up on ELI, Copyright Anti-BullyingAct, GettyImagesMustChange and DieTrollDie.  I wouldn't be surprised to see more people start reporting on it before long.

I do commend Robert for not bringing in Mr. Albrizio's family, business associates, customers etc into it after all the failed attacks on his family.  ELI and related sites have never done that. I think it also helps that the VOJF posts are so laughable and *ANYONE* who looks at it objectively will see it for what it is.

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on January 26, 2017, 10:35:49 AM
The upside to VOJF is that it is a reminder to Linda Ellis (or anyone else) that no one at ELI ever did the stuff Joel-sica/VOJF did. Not even close.  This is the same website that Linda wanted to offer her comments and fed the out-of-context crunt snippet to VOJF try to throw Robert under the bus with.

No one was commenting or talking about her here on ELI. She was largely a dead topic with the disabled LE/LL/DP Forum. But both VOJF and Linda herself decided to dredge up the past to try to say their shit.  And given how Linda accuses April of being "obsessed", Linda did herself no favors here. More fodder for April to complain about regarding Linda.

I am comfortable owning up to my side of things including my weakness to say some cuss words when I get unhappy (as if that was ever a secret). Is Linda comfortable admitting that she traffics in victimhood?  (Hey everyone! I am a cyberbully/cyberstalking victim (but no one ever sends her any messages)! Look at what bad words he said about me! He hurt my feelings and "threatened" me. 10-seconds out of a 33-minute discussion.  GMAFB.)  If she was such a cyberbully victim, what does that make Robert?

I don't see Robert crying he was being cyberbullied despite the fact VOJF has gone to all sorts of sordid places and name attacked, smeared, and weaponized so many "innocents" and family members all in the name of Linda and other "victims".  I imagine it is really great to find out that someone online is targeting, attacking, and smearing you by virtue of you simply being related or knowing them. How does that sound and look?

But Linda can be happy with her distorted little digs on me, Robert, and April on the Miami-Herald article comment section. I may yet post a rebuttal on Miami Herald but it just hasn't been a high priority.

I am beginning to think April is right. Some people (like Linda) seem to want to create and attract more drama to get attention when it had nothing to do with them. Sad.

Out of all the fake commenters on VOJF, Linda's was the only "legitimate" one in that desert of a "blog". Sad.

I do commend Robert for not bringing in Mr. Albrizio's family, business associates, customers etc into it after all the failed attacks on his family.  ELI and related sites have never done that. I think it also helps that the VOJF posts are so laughable and *ANYONE* who looks at it objectively will see it for what it is.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on January 26, 2017, 09:20:35 PM
But Linda can be happy with her distorted little digs on me, Robert, and April on the Miami-Herald article comment section. I may yet post a rebuttal on Miami Herald but it just hasn't been a high priority.

I was thinking about that article today.  Since Mr. Albrizio and Robert were both covered in the original maybe they would be interested in a follow up article on how Mr. Albrizio operates.  The threats he has made against Robert, Oscar's response the threats to letter recipients etc.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Peeved on January 26, 2017, 09:32:57 PM
I do commend Robert for not bringing in Mr. Albrizio's family, business associates, customers etc into it after all the failed attacks on his family.  ELI and related sites have never done that. I think it also helps that the VOJF posts are so laughable and *ANYONE* who looks at it objectively will see it for what it is.

Agreed 100%!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 08:21:20 AM
Well it’s been a little over 1 week since anything new has been posted on voices of jupiter florida.com. As you probably figured, I would only be quiet for so long, so a few points of discussion are now due.

I won’t be removing or taking anything down on copyright-trolls.com, unlike the voices of jupiter non-sense blog, copyright-trolls has stuck to reporting on court cases, real extortion demand letters from real people and the behavior of Adlife Marketing & Communications and President Joel Albrizio.

On the other hand the author of voices of jupiter.com, suspected to be Joel Albrizio himself, writing as a “stay at home mother” and “concerned citizen” from Jupiter, has done nothing but embarrass themselves, by making false statements, and innuendo, which is all easily dismissed by any normal person reading this blog.

If voices of jupiter florida.com thinks that by not posting anything makes everything that has been said simply go away, they are sorely mistaken. The blog’s author has been trying to ruin my wife's, my sons, and other innocent peoples reputation, by continuing to name them, and tagging them, to get negative results into the search engine results. This is beyond reprehensible, and will not be ignored.

By leaving this untrue and borderline defamatory blog online only serves to further embarrass Joel Albrizio and Adlife Marketing.

Ask yourself this: What would Joel Albrizio’s family, employees, current client base, and possible future clients think when they saw the extremes that Joel Albrizio has gone to here? Especially when it plain to see the facts behind the story..

Jessica Langston is a fake name being used by Joel Albrizio, which can be easily proven via IP addresses I have in my possession from emails sent from Jessica from a Pawtucket RI address person
The Jessica Langston FB has since been removed as being a bogus account.

All of this started shortly after I began reporting on the activities of Adlife Marketing & Communications and an explosive phone conversation where Joel clearly stated, “I am going to ruin and destroy you.”
The list could go on and on…

Joel may call for the removal of “negative comments” regarding him and his company, but as of yet, he hasn’t “come out of the closet” and used a real name. I can only assume he might not be very proud of his behavior to this point.

The best thing Joel Albrizio can do for himself and his company Adlife Marketing at this time is to completely takedown voices of jupiter florida.com, lest it will only continue to be discussed in wider circles, and although I have continued to take the “high road” in this matter, I could easily have a weak moment, and go places that I prefer not to. It seems to me that Joel Albrizio has no bounds, as he has continually emailed and named my family members, and personal associates, and as far as I’m concerned this could be a two way street at any time.

The author of voices of jupiter florida.com (Joel Albrizio) solely chose to make this personal on his own behalf, to me this speaks volumes and shows the true colors of this individual..and how low and sleazy he can be to save face..problem is, this just makes him look worse..and I’m not going to sit back and pretend it didn’t happen.

So it’s now up to Joel Albrizio to prove that I am mistaken, and do the right thing. Or he can continue to pay a monthly hosting fee, use his energy and warped imagination to dream up new scenarios to post, furthering his own embarrassment…
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 04, 2017, 08:36:22 AM
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Jessica Langston is a fake name being used by Joel Albrizio, which can be easily proven via IP addresses I have in my possession from emails sent from Jessica from a Pawtucket RI address person
The Jessica Langston FB has since been removed as being a bogus account.

And yet Joelsica writes a post on VOJF condemning me for using the moniker I have been known by on ELI for over half a decade.

He has accused me of being Robert.  He has accused me of contemplating crimes.  He is, in my opinion, a real dirt bag.

Listen Robert, I have been traveling a lot and will be traveling more into early March.  But if you want to go after this guy, I have a few bones to pick with him too.  Say the word.  I will be happy to contribute my efforts to letting the world see Joelsica for what he is.

Note to Joel Abrizio:  If you want to get off of my bad side, I demand that you take down all posts mentioning me on VOJF and write one that includes a sincere apology for the BS that the voices in your head made up, when writing that post.  I don't usually devote a lot of time in my life to scum like you, but you started this.  You play dirty. And you have gone after people that have been very kind and helpful to me.  These are not helping you win friends and influence people, here.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
I'm not going to devote a lot of time to this either, but others might, I've heard rumblings of a "Voices of Pawtucket RI" blog, written by a concerned group of people up in that area.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 04, 2017, 10:21:24 AM
Let's discourage those here from stooping to that level.  I don't think we need to make stuff up about this guy.  I'm pretty sure he'd be unhappy if we just told the truth about him. 

Maybe the truth about how he reflects on his wife and kids.  He went there.  It may be crossing line to go after family, but he went there first.  We'd at least be truthful about it. 

He came at me out of the blue.  I'm led to believe that social media is ripe with images and data about his family.  Has he published that apology yet?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 10:41:47 AM
I'm determined to "not go there", but my patience and resolve will only go so far, and as you stated VOJF seems to think it's okay to "go there", and whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

I certainly don't need to and won't make stuff up, but much like I don't control "my hero members" I also don't control what others may write, post or discuss. I've spoken directly to many people in the North East / New England Area who have reached out to me with information, which I have not spoken about.. But they may very well do so on their own.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 04, 2017, 11:40:48 AM
Let's discourage those here from stooping to that level.  I don't think we need to make stuff up about this guy.  I'm pretty sure he'd be unhappy if we just told the truth about him. 

Maybe the truth about how he reflects on his wife and kids.  He went there.  It may be crossing line to go after family, but he went there first.  We'd at least be truthful about it. 

He came at me out of the blue.  I'm led to believe that social media is ripe with images and data about his family.  Has he published that apology yet?

Believe me Stinger, there is already more than enough information that is all true and supported by documentation out there. We have never stooped to the level of making stuff up, going after innocent people or attacking family members, never have so far.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on February 04, 2017, 12:19:09 PM
We know Jessica Langston is Albrizio. We know Linda Ellis is in touch with the guy. We know he's used EXACTLY  the same tactics as Linda Ellis to try and frightens away those of us on the front lines who report the actions of copyright trolls.  Albrizio has not denied these facts but Saint Linda post denials that she knows him yet the both are posting on his slander website. The spread on their IQ's is noticeable.  Thats not the only difference between Ellis and Albrizio. Ellis is a lazy wannabe whose writing is for the lost and broken person who simply can't find their way through life without reading some stupid poem written by an author who is unable to live by her own words and worse demands money from those broken people at their worst possible moment. Albrizio is a highly accomplished and disciplined individual (have you seen the body on that guy?) with children that by all appearances any parent would be proud of. Albrizio continues to create opportunities for his family while celebrating a bit of a celebrity (playboy) lifestyle. He walks on the wild side. He drives fast cars. Throws around money. Probably dates women much younger, loves his dog and sports team. Albrizio built a relevant company. Employs real people and actually provides a customer service. Ellis pretends she has a successful staff when it's just this little ole emotional wreck of a Georgia housewife working out of a split level house strong-arming hurting people. If he had developed emotional self-control he would not have found himself in bed with the street whore of trolls. This guy could buy the best yet leaned on Ellis to foster a weak attack on us. And this is where I am most disappointed in Albrizio. He did not research us as individuals. We are different by age, race, sexual identity, politics and religion. The one thing we have in common is that we have all been abused in some form by a copyright troll. Why doesn't he understand who Oscar Michelen is? Oscar is one of the most respected attorneys among his peers and members of the legal profession. Why doesn't he know that it was Judge Jordan's peers who kicked Matthew's appeal up to the Supreme Court because they instantly saw that the record was tainted and the cause was noteworthy. Didn't he watch the courtroom videos and the embarrassment her legal team and Ellis went through that day? Didn't  he watch the ridiculous spin Ellis put on the judges ruling? Doesn't he read the crap she still has on her blog about all of us and me in particular? Why didn't he read my blog about Ellis? The facts and exhibits are there. He would instantly discover that Ellis never has any exhibits in their original form to prove her evidence of stalking and harassment. We always post the evidence and we always report the truth. None of us hide. None of us tuck our tail and run. We fight and we win because the issue is more important than Linda Ellis or Joel Albrizio. He needs to get out of this fight before it gains national traction. The grocery business is a "family business". Trolling is not.

As long as Linda Ellis and Joel Albrizio keep these slander posts and websites active we have proof of their deviancy. Outside their bubble are their victims. We know those people. They call us. They forward their emails. We follow the evidence trail BEFORE we write a single word. It's called proof. Their victims are REAL PEOPLE who in this day and age won't keep quiet. Geez.

Albrizio has to decide if he wants a "pole dancer" tagging around behind him and trying to suck off his wealth. Ellis is a broke ass hypocrite who is has never had a solid identity, and whose brand has come to represent "a victim of cyberstalking and bullying" not inspirational living. She declares she gets her words direct from God. She claims she has the answers for our lives. She touts a false sisterhood with women. She spends every waking hour looking for ways to extort money from her fans and followers. Does Albrizio really want that kind of woman in his life? OH and btw, she's 55 and clearly not arm candy.

I end with this. Every one of us who are self-employed make mistakes. We all struggle with staying relevant. I've read quite a bit now about the food and grocery business and my personal belief is that Albrizio's company is in trouble and this is mental masturbation until he gets a new plan. His extravagant lifestyle might have caused him to take his eye off the ball. He could be a difficult guy to work (the emotional self control thing). Like all humans, he has failed relationships that continue to haunt him because he has to be THE winner. Well sometime we lose. He has lost this fight. He needs to huddle with the best people in his company and with his family and ask for their forgiveness and help. He can change if he wants to. His first rule of business should be severing his relationship with the hack poet and taking down the slander website. When he does that we will report his good behavior. After all, he didn't build his company by being an asshole 100% of the time.

Personally I think he's kind of cute and I hope he finds his way to better and more profitable strategy for living. Redemption belongs to everyone.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 12:53:48 PM
I'm not so sure Ellis and Albrizio are in contact anymore, I think Linda is trying to distance herself, albeit a bit late. Considering most of the posts were in regards to Ellis stuff ( albrizio doesn't want to mention his or the adlife name ) he saw it as an opportunity to use her for his purpose, and Linda can look in the mirror to see why he's using her...she decided to comment, thus getting involved. Notice on the VOJF blog, the posts rail about her memes, about jerk-off Jolin, etc....nothing there directly relates to Albrizio or Adlife...except for the IP addresses that directly link to Adlife Marketing..
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 04, 2017, 01:50:49 PM
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He has lost this fight. He needs to huddle with the best people in his company and with his family and ask for their forgiveness and help.

April,  All I asked for is a sincere apology and that he take down his BS article.

I find it funny though, that you think this guy is cute.  I remember a few days in Atlanta a few years ago when you thought Robert was cute.  :)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 01:55:24 PM
unlike the rest of us, it appears April vision is improving with age...then again, April was wearing wine glasses that night in Atlanta.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 04, 2017, 02:13:44 PM
Notice on the VOJF blog, the posts rail about her memes, about jerk-off Jolin, etc....nothing there directly relates to Albrizio or Adlife...except for the IP addresses that directly link to Adlife Marketing..

The Jan 1st story "Businessman vs. Bully" was the only really detailed "article" *cough* and amazingly enough it was all about Mr. Albrizio being reported on by Robert.  He also mentions again he thinks Robert "stole" his image, for someone who is supposed to be dealing with copyright law he doesn't seem to understand hotlinking an image, please read Perfect10 vs Google.  Hot linking is not theft. Of course by the time this piece was written he had already received Oscar Michelen's letter concerning the threats made against Robert that also explained hotlinking to him.  Then again it does not surprise me if he can post a video  on his own sight saying that Robert says an offensive word yet no where in the video does he say it. Mr. Albrizio might also think hotlinking is theft even after a lawyer has explained it to him.



Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on February 04, 2017, 04:32:21 PM
unlike the rest of us, it appears April vision is improving with age...then again, April was wearing wine glasses that night in Atlanta.

I was wasn't I. Damn we had a good time.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on February 04, 2017, 04:42:20 PM
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He has lost this fight. He needs to huddle with the best people in his company and with his family and ask for their forgiveness and help.

April,  All I asked for is a sincere apology and that he take down his BS article.

I find it funny though, that you think this guy is cute.  I remember a few days in Atlanta a few years ago when you thought Robert was cute.  :)

Stinger you are twisting the facts. I thought YOU were cute. Robert was my drink counter that night. At my age, men have pretty much gone to shit. I guess we all have to some degree but I think most women at least keep trying to look good. Albrizio takes care of himself. He's no slouch. So as old men go he's about a 7. I have to deduct a point for emotional instability. A point for not seeing the forest for the trees. And a point for disrespecting his family. I would kick my dad's ass if he was behind a slander website. He wouldn't do it in the first place. My dad's a General Baptist Deacon. He prays for guys like Albrizio.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 04, 2017, 04:56:16 PM
Don Knotts is a 10+ in my book!!!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 05, 2017, 10:24:53 AM
Slow down, Peeved.

April called me cute.

That doesn't happen very often.  Although, I might have to question her judgement if she only deducts 1 point for emotional instability.  I think this guy hears voices.  That's minus 20 and we are only rating on a 10 point scale.

Maybe we should start a "Rate the Troll" website?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 05, 2017, 11:19:43 AM
The infamous "Jess L" aka Jessica Langston, aka Joel Albrizio, sure gets around..

https://www.bbb.org/boston/business-reviews/marketing-consultants/adlife-marketing-communications-company-inc-in-pawtucket-ri-186609/reviews-and-complaints
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on February 06, 2017, 11:55:38 AM
Both Linda Ellis and Joel Albrizio claim they are innocent and have nothing to do with the Voices of Jupiter Florida website. Interesting that the blog is written similarly to the Adlife blog and Ellis is commenting on the blog continuing with the "imavictim" story line. If someone was associating my name with a website like that I would file a copyright strike and a complaint to Squarespace. I'm sure they would be happy to help Albrizio figure out who the offender is.

We know Ellis does not care one iota about her reputation or her business image but Albrizio has a real business. Ellis, not so much. One would think Albrizio would force whomever to remove the content. At some point this story will affect his ability to sell customers on integrity and trust. I go back to what I know about the grocery business - my father managed a grocery store for 25 years. Grocery is a sanitized business model. There is no room for controversy and slimy business practices or negative associations. My guess is eventually customers will start writing corporate offices to complain if he keeps this up. Robert, have you considered writing letters to his client base?

Copyright trolls hurt families. They hurt children. Albrizio needs to read the stories on my blog about real people - children, teachers and schools - getting extortion letters from Ellis. They call me. I listen to the tears and anger. These extortion letters may name a person but the payoffs come from families who don't have his resources. He should know also that his $8000 demand is more than half-year salary of a minimum wage worker.

Linda Ellis chooses to continue down this very destructive road primarily because she has no other viable financial option. She's damaged her reputation and business and has not recovered. Granted, we can't compare Linda's business model to a successful man like Albrizio but surely he does not want to have the reputation of a Linda Ellis.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Libertas on February 06, 2017, 11:37:20 PM
April, are you seriously trying to hook up with Albrizio?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 10, 2017, 11:45:27 AM
Well, I can now confirm something I learned nearly a month ago.. Adlife Marketing & Communications COO and Joel Albrizios son Brendon Albrizio has up and left Adlife Marketing.. He now is employed by Crayon.co.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/balbrizio/

https://www.crayon.co/

So the questions remain:

1. Did the leave for a better opportunity?
2. Was this a financial decision, court documents show Adlife had a previous issue concerning employee wages.
3. Is Adlife Marketing indeed a listing ship, about to go under?
4. Did he leave because of his possible disgust over not only the copyright trolling / extortion scheme, and perhaps because of the disgusting behavior of someone in the Adlife Camp ( suspected to be none other than his father Joel Albrizio) concerning the voices of jupiter florida blog?

Join the conversation with your thoughts!

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:16:10 AM
I am not sure how Joelsica thought VOJF was ever a good idea.  All it did was up the ante and bring up all kinds of ugliness and scenarios never thought of before by anyone. It was sort of clever in the beginning but then it backfired because it just outed the situation for everyone to learn about.

The bright idea to email a bunch of strangers in Jupiter who have zero context or understanding what CRT or anything related to copyright extortion is outside the realm of most people's reality. It comes off as creepy and stalky.

It ultimately revealed the IP address from Pawtucket, RI. It was not a big leap for anyone here to figure out who it was. Why would Oscar get involved if HE wasn't convinced?  The minute that was uncovered, Joelsica put everyone in the Albrizio family at risk of potentially the same smear treatment as the Krausankas family received.

What we have right now is Joelsica smearing a bunch of Krausankas members/friends. And no one on the Albrizio side being smeared. Robert has, so far, taken the high road.

So, if it was escalated (which Robert has not) it no longer is Joel vs. Robert.  It becomes Albrizio smears vs. Krausankas smears.  And as far as I know, one side has FAR MORE family members to smear talk about than the other. And one family have has far more potential for exposure than the other.

As far as I am concerned, the longer VOJF exists the worse it looks for Joelsica and he is looking to play chicken with Robert.  The problem with playing chicken with someone who won't give in is that someone might just bite back.

I'm not going to devote a lot of time to this either, but others might, I've heard rumblings of a "Voices of Pawtucket RI" blog, written by a concerned group of people up in that area.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:22:10 AM
I was actually quite amazed that your post was brought into it. Talk about taking posts out of context.

And for those that do not know, Stinger actually flew to Atlanta on his own dime to join our group in the GA Supreme Court in 2014 where we ultimately prevailed. Stinger isn't just a random talker or poster, he has actually contributed in very substantial and meaningful ways beyond just posting here on the forums. He doesn't talk much about his contributions but I am one person can speak to his convictions.

And yes, Joelsica opened up a whole can of ugly worms that even sleazy politicians don't do.

And yet Joelsica writes a post on VOJF condemning me for using the moniker I have been known by on ELI for over half a decade.

He has accused me of being Robert.  He has accused me of contemplating crimes.  He is, in my opinion, a real dirt bag.

Listen Robert, I have been traveling a lot and will be traveling more into early March.  But if you want to go after this guy, I have a few bones to pick with him too.  Say the word.  I will be happy to contribute my efforts to letting the world see Joelsica for what he is.

Note to Joel Abrizio:  If you want to get off of my bad side, I demand that you take down all posts mentioning me on VOJF and write one that includes a sincere apology for the BS that the voices in your head made up, when writing that post.  I don't usually devote a lot of time in my life to scum like you, but you started this.  You play dirty. And you have gone after people that have been very kind and helpful to me.  These are not helping you win friends and influence people, here.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:29:48 AM
Yes, it was weird attacking you out of the blue.  The "danger" is that most people don't know who you are.

Obviously, no one wants things to get ugly but Joelsica did start this ugly front by first smearing the Krausankas family/friends and then make a jab at your for so-called criminal talk.  It would then become "Stinger vs. Joelsica".

Joelsica needs to do everyone a favor and end VOJF.  All it is doing is keeping the ugly fires alive.

Let's discourage those here from stooping to that level.  I don't think we need to make stuff up about this guy.  I'm pretty sure he'd be unhappy if we just told the truth about him. 

Maybe the truth about how he reflects on his wife and kids.  He went there.  It may be crossing line to go after family, but he went there first.  We'd at least be truthful about it. 

He came at me out of the blue.  I'm led to believe that social media is ripe with images and data about his family.  Has he published that apology yet?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:40:07 AM
I am certainly not subscribing to anyone escalating matters but watching this play out has given me great clarity for myself. There is no question that there has been a lot of thinking and discussion along the lines "If this happened to me, what would I do?"

If someone went after "my family" the way Joelsica went after Robert's, I believe people would see a dark, unpleasant side of me come out very quickly.  VOJF treads into dangerous territory by potentially tapping some of the darkest inclinations people might have.

There is a good reason why politicians and mobsters don't "go there". 

I'm determined to "not go there", but my patience and resolve will only go so far, and as you stated VOJF seems to think it's okay to "go there", and whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:46:04 AM
Linda was an idiot injecting herself into VOJF without getting the lay of the land. But she wanted to get her little jabs in. She got used so badly by Joelsica. VOJF hasn't done any favors for Linda, that is for sure.

I'm not so sure Ellis and Albrizio are in contact anymore, I think Linda is trying to distance herself, albeit a bit late. Considering most of the posts were in regards to Ellis stuff ( albrizio doesn't want to mention his or the adlife name ) he saw it as an opportunity to use her for his purpose, and Linda can look in the mirror to see why he's using her...she decided to comment, thus getting involved. Notice on the VOJF blog, the posts rail about her memes, about jerk-off Jolin, etc....nothing there directly relates to Albrizio or Adlife...except for the IP addresses that directly link to Adlife Marketing..
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 11, 2017, 07:37:43 AM
Something else that "Joelssica" is not considering, is that if someone were to decide to get get nasty and really fight back, not only does the Albrizio name have many more members to poke, but also Adlife Marketing has a bunch of innocent or largely innocent people involved which could easily become targets, much like the author of VOJF decided to pull names out of a hat.. I'm fairly confident Brendon Albrizio wouldn't want his name mentioned over and over, and over again considering he just landed a new job.. At the end of the day I doubt Joel Albrizio really cares about his coworkers Sharon Ferretti, Douglas Fleaurant, Jeremy Howard or the other employees, but they all run the risk of being in the "line of fire" the longer VOJF stays online.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 01:45:56 PM
This is the inventory I have taken so far.

VOJF (Joelsica) has directly hit Robert, his wife, his son, a realtor, a coach, and Stinger. What is MOST NOTABLE are the REPEATED and UNWARRANTED hits and tags on his wife and son to intentionally smear them without cause. VOJF has made indirect swipes against me (using Dash Poet, Linda's out of context videos) and Oscar for standing up for copyright infringement defendants "what does Oscar know?". And some weird tags on April. Robert's clients have been emailed numerous times.

Linda should think VOJF the next time she wants to accuse someone of cyberbullying.  Linda is being used again.  Let's be clear.  Joelsica has set a new low standard for "going there" where no one has lowly gone before.  "Go-there Joelsica" is a nickname that comes to mind.

Robert has hit Joel and "Jessica" back.  Robert has made one mention of Joel's son because he once worked at Adlife and was a corporate officer. (Prior to VOJF, Robert did criticize Adlife, Joel, and made mention of a couple of Adlife corporate officers.)

Joelsica is now trying to insinuate that Robert is responsible for the Krausankas family search results in Google.  That is amusing given that EVERY SINGLE POST now being listed was published by VOJF and Joelsica!  It is pretty clear who/what/where those entries are likely coming from: Pawtucket, Rhode Island using a Verizon Business Internet connection.

Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 11, 2017, 02:59:13 PM
Something else that "Joelssica" is not considering, is that if someone were to decide to get get nasty and really fight back, not only does the Albrizio name have many more members to poke, but also Adlife Marketing has a bunch of innocent or largely innocent people involved which could easily become targets, much like the author of VOJF decided to pull names out of a hat.. I'm fairly confident Brendon Albrizio wouldn't want his name mentioned over and over, and over again considering he just landed a new job.. At the end of the day I doubt Joel Albrizio really cares about his coworkers Sharon Ferretti, Douglas Fleaurant, Jeremy Howard or the other employees, but they all run the risk of being in the "line of fire" the longer VOJF stays online.


The other point to make is that the VOJF posts are all B.S., made up stuff, innuendo and things taken wildly out of context while if Robert and were to "go there" and play tit for tat there would not be made up stuff, it would all be real and fact based reporting.  Again, I commend Robert on taking the high ground thus far.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 04:05:02 PM
I have been watching American Crime Story: People vs. OJ Simpson. Great mini-series and very educational and insightful.

That series reminded me of the book OJ wrote which supposedly recounts the horror of what OJ did to Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.  The rights to sell and profit was subsequently taken away from OJ since they used a sham corporation to get around the $30 million judgment against him.  That book was titled "If I Did It".

Maybe there will be a future book by Joel of how to impersonate a woman and "anonymously" smear someone's family that is titled "If I Wrote It"  (VOJF)
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 11, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
I don't know how the VOJF blog aurhor ( Joel Albrizio ) keeps up with these bogus names and email accounts, we've already shown "Jessica Langston" as coming from a Pawtucket RI IP address, now we once again have another email from "Marissa Davenport"...who doesn't exist in Jupiter..shocking I know..

Joel/Jessica/Marissa or whatever the name of the day is also seems to think I am responsible for any google results for the garbage that clearly was written by him...sorry that's not my doing, the VOJF authors are solely responsible for that... and to label my "post" regarding Brendon Albrizio getting a new job outside of Adlife Marketing as an "attack" is really pretty stupid..up to this point VOJF hasn't seen an attack from me in any way shape or form, neither has any innocent parties. I've simply reported on Adlife business practices, and some of the lawsuits that Joel Albrizio has been involved with..But all that may be about to change in the very near future.

From: Marissa Davenport <marissadaven@gmail.com>
Date: February 10, 2017 at 6:25:30 PM EST
To: 1234@56789.com
Subject: Robert's Written Narrative Continues!

We had asked and expected Robert to better understand his affect on others, especially you.

It was our intention to move on and delete posted information. This has not been the case and so we will begin again.

Please let us know when Robert ends his written attacks so as we had intended we may delete posts.

Marissa
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 11, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
Another "woman" comes out of the blue? This time it is "Marissa"?

When "Jessica" decided it was okay to smear Trish and Bryce and to CONTINUE to allow those smear posts to exist and get Googled, exactly how long did anyone think Robert was going to stay quiet? Tarnishing his name is one thing given how vocal he has been online.  But to drag in Trish and Bryce is dirt. In particular, it rubs me wrong in a nasty way because I actually know and have met Trish and Bryce.  I am especially impressed with Bryce. I might have to write a stellar review about all the things that impress me about that young man to offset the VOJF smears about him.

The January 25 "peace offer" is ingenuous because it is all premised upon lies and impersonation. No one in their right mind would trust enough to communicate to an immoral "anonymous" entity who has violated unsaid/unspoken family scruples.

Better to communicate out in the open where there are witnesses and transparency, then all the bullshit cloak and dagger innnuendos. Yes, there might be some ugliness and embarrassment but at least there is honesty.  As April has correctly pointed out, who the fuck leads a perfect life? And the threat of 1982 is old news. It is a spitball, not a silver bullet. But I am quite confident the person who fires the bullet will cause a self-inflicted wound.

And exactly which posts is Robert supposed to remove that has been so offensive and rude? Without firm confirmation, he can only make an educated guess to mean the "Joel Albrizio and Adlife" posts.  That is all any of us who support Robert can think of.  The long list of people who has been following this (and supports Robert) cannot credibly think of anyone else that would be responsible for VOJF other than Joel (or perhaps someone close to him).

And now that Joel's son's name has been brought up, it seems clear to me he is his own man and left Adlife of his own accord. It is possible Joel "fired" him but it is far more credible that a son left to find his own career path. It is an old story, not any attack that I can see.  Who knows exactly what the family dynamic really is? For all we know, the son might have had misgivings about Joel's choices in the business and left. Or he saw a good career opportunity.  Nothing nefarious about that.

No one is disparaging or blaming the son for the deeds of the father. But it would seem "Marissa" is now upset because Robert made the smallest mention of the son. I guess it stings to get a tiny taste of the 30+ posts going the opposite way against the Krausankas family.  See what Joelsica stirred up by "going there" first?  It has been okay for a continued online smearing on Trish and Bryce but remarking on Joel's son's move from Adlife to another company is somehow an "attack"? GMAFB.

Personally, I believe ithe true identity of Marissa is "Joelrissa". Who else would have the motivation to continue smearing and tagging the Krausankas family? I believe Joelsica and Joelrissa are the same person.

And why the ongoing impersonation of a yet another woman? What is that all about?
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 11, 2017, 10:09:02 PM
One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 12, 2017, 08:15:10 AM
I'm not sure if Joelsica  has enough trolling complaints against himself and his company, Adlife Marketing (I believe) to justify his own piece of real estate on this forum,  but I am pretty certain that it is not something he would relish.  Can you check that out Matthew?

Based on your experience (Matthew and April), do people who have signed non-disclosure agreements as part of a trolling settlement, tend to come forward and share their stories in an anonymous context like this forum?  I know from experience that Joel despises the anonymity provided here.  It makes it so much more difficult for him to dig up dirt on his enemies.

I still haven't seen a retraction or apology post Joel.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 12, 2017, 08:32:44 AM
Here's a fun little note I discovered while writing the last post.

Auto-correct changes 'Joelsica' to 'Joel sick'.  Do you all suppose auto-correct has discovered what we all know to be true?   If so, I am guessing that Siri and Alexa won't be far behind.

Once they all know that, it shouldn't be too difficult getting a Wikipedia post published equating the name 'Joel Albrizio' with 'Joel sick'.

Still haven't seen that retraction or apology, Joel.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 12, 2017, 09:12:57 AM
Another "woman" comes out of the blue? This time it is "Marissa"?

And why the ongoing impersonation of a yet another woman? What is that all about?

Yes "Marissa" has been around since the beginning, we just haven't exposed her yet...or is it him? or he/she?

The ongoing impersonation of woman is fairly easy to explain.. Joel Albrizio who is suspected to be behind VOJF has no balls, and likes to hide behind different names, and he chooses womens names because (i'm guessing here) that "women" would likely be more "offended" by the porn references. One has to wonder if Brendon and Ashley are proud of good ole dad while he continues to make a mockery of his name and already soiled reputation.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 12, 2017, 03:00:03 PM
Ok, then "Marissa" is "Jessica's" twin sister. And the 2nd alias for Joel (someone close to Joel). I got it now. They are "sistas".

One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 12, 2017, 03:27:45 PM
Unlike "Joelsica" and "Joelrissa" who seem to think sending emails to Krausankas friends/family to ruin them is a smart thing to do, I would like to point out that as far as I know, Robert has sent no emails to anyone in the Albrizio friends/family camp.... yet.

This is the danger of playing chicken and the "Joelsistas" constantly threatening, taunting, poking, etc. at Robert's family members and friends and keeping VOJF going. It only makes someone very unhappy.  I guess the "Joelsistas" are tag-teaming this and want to see how far Robert will tolerate things.

Mike Masnick of Techdirt (Techdirt has on occasion covered unusual ELI news and events) is credited for coining the term "Streisand Effect" has said that the BEST way to combat negative speech is to NOT try to censor speech as it has the unintended effect.  Mike claims the best way to combat negative speech is by generating EVEN MORE speech to counteract it as most people can generally sniff out a liar once all the facts are presented IN PROPER CONTEXT (unlike kindred spirits, Joel and Linda)

Again, think OJ Simpson.  He was pronounced "not guilty" of the double murders. But aside from isolated people and rabid supporters, the general public accepted the idea that OJ was a double murdererer. There was no public outcry to find the "true killer" after the "not guilty" because the general public already concluded and accepted that OJ Simpson was a murderer.

DieTrollDie and FightCopyrightTrolls sprung up to do anonymous reporting of porn trolls as a REACTION to ugly tactics being used by porn trolls to embarrass the accused into paying.  However, DTD and FCT today are well respected reporters (and often quoted in the tech press) of the porn troll phenomena.

Unlike Joelsica and Joelrissa, DTD and FCT didn't abuse their anonymity.  They used their anonymity in positive ways and they don't "go there" despite the fact they are anonymous. They conduct themselves with honor and a code of conduct.  Hence, 1st Amendment lawyers over the years have DEFENDED DTD and FCT to protect their anonymity.

However, VOJF is repugnant, not honorable, and have violated the unspoken rules of going after uninvolved and innocent family/friends.

One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 12, 2017, 03:39:21 PM
And this is what happens when someone decides to make false accusations and falsely attack another. They hone in on it.

So, I wonder how many times Stinger will demanding an apology from Joel for accusing him of engaging in criminal behavior when he was dialoging in an open forum. It would not surprise me if it was part of Stinger's ongoing signature as Stinger has been demanding an apology from Joel SEVERAL times now.

This is what happens when you go after someone seemingly "harmless" as Stinger. If Stinger was ever on the sidelines, the fact that Joelsica attacked and falsely accused Stinger has only given him more energy into this entire matter.

But I can predict Joelsica's response. He will keep wrongfully and disgustingly hammering and tagging Trish and Bryce whom I personally know. I call that fucking bullshit.

Still haven't seen that retraction or apology, Joel.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 17, 2017, 11:08:45 AM
An Open Letter to Brendon Albrizio

I'll just drop this here....Please by all means feel free to discuss and share..

Dear Brendon,
As an ex-executive of your father’s (Joel Albrizio’s) company, Adlife Marketing, I’m sure you are aware of the recent goings on in regards to me reporting my opinion on Adlife Marketings somewhat shady business tactics regarding copyright enforcement tactics. This has never been a personal quest of mine (or those reporting on these tactics) to tarnish your or your family’s reputation in any way shape or form. The author of The Voices of Jupiter Florida .com is solely responsible for making this a personal issue.

read the rest here : http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/an-open-letter-to-brendon-albrizio/
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 19, 2017, 11:56:49 PM
Okay, it was quiet for awhile but people are all stirred up again. 

As of this writing, there are now 48 posts on VOJF, all of them devoted to ridiculously slut-shaming Robert, his family, and friends. In most of them, the original stated objective was to have CRT entirely taken down. It seems quite obvious Robert is NOT going to take down CRT.

January 25's "A New Beginning" was supposed to be "anonymous" Joelsica's attempt to "resolve" the "conflict":

We would ask at no future time will our names be attached to anything negative by you or your hero members under any circumstances.  Our requests are simple but our commitment to your follow through will not waiver.

The problem with this is that the author of VOJF has never publicly admitted or confessed to being the author of VOJF. (Although the collected evidence so far suggests it is Joel himself doing the writing/blogging/emailing.) To admit or confess would automatically throw out the premise of VOJF being about Jupiter Florida. No, it is all about bashing Robert and his family/friends. He would also have to admit to fighting dirty by going after friends/family. He would have to admit to impersonating at least one woman (Jessica), maybe two (Marissa.) 

Robert, understandably perturbed, makes a small mention of Brendon (who was an executive at Adlife) and his sister here on on ELI so that Joel gets a tiny taste of the three dozen posts Joelsica made on VOJF about him, his family/friends. Then Joelsica gets all upset and spits out two posts on Feb. 10 & 11 before going silent again. My guess is that Joelsica either got busy or perhaps did not want to provoke Robert further and went silent again. 

Of course, we have a new blow-up on VOJF because Robert wrote ONE respectful and considerate open letter to Brendon. As far as I am concerned, it was way more respectful and considerate than the three dozen other posts Joelsica wrote.

Yes, let's have a VOJF blow-up because Robert wrote ONE open letter to Brendon. As far as I can see, Robert didn't EXCEED or overstep any boundaries. And certainly not anything that wasn't done excessively worse by Joelsica himself 40 times beforehand. In fact, if people read the VOJF posts MOST are open letters to Robert's wife, son, and/or Jupiter associates. But Joelsica is going to be upset with ONE open letter conveniently ignoring the 40 "open posts" to Robert's family/associates.

However, there is an interesting turn. On Feb. 17, there are 3 memes shown of Joel, Linda Ellis, and John Jolin (Linda's one time assistant) with the excerpts below:

We are a group of parents who are business men and women. Not one person, but many, committed to change what must be changed. In this case at times your are in focus. Not from a personal vantage point, but because you made us focus on you. That is why we wrote about you.

Today you stand at the crossroads of good and bad. You can remove all that is about the three victims above on CRT and Extortion Letter and we will close up shop and delete VOJF at 7:00 pm today.

If not at 7:00 pm our articles like yours will continue tonight at 9:00 pm and you are welcome to give us all you have, and please expect, all that and more in return.


Firstly, there appears to be a confession of sorts on why VOJF is so focused on Robert. The memes! The excerpts seem to suggest that VOJF was the collective effort of Joel, Linda, and John. That is VERY INTERESTING because Linda denied being the author of VOJF. John seems to be incidental to VOJF but Joelsica has latched on to the penis meme and attempting to "save" John.

Secondly, today (Feb. 19) Joelsica posted a screen shot of Robert's FB page fussing about Robert's 1-star rating of Adlife Marketing. However, that screen shot INCLUDES a photo of Robert's FB account from the PERSPECTIVE of Joel's FB account! How do we know this? Joel's smiling photo and name was on the upper right hand corner of that screenshot!  (It has since been replaced with a screenshot that has been cropped. However, a few of us captured Joel's smiling face on the original FB screenshot BEFORE it was cropped.)

If it wasn't Joel himself making that VOJF post, it must be that someone sat on Joel's computer and screenshotted it or someone hacked into Joel's FB account to screenshot Robert's FB account!

Between the fake Jessica Langston FB account which appears to be shut down by FB itself, references to Pawtucket Rhode Island Verizon Business IP address, and now this recent screenshot of Joel's Facebook account, it all but solidifies our group's assertion that Joel is behind VOJF.

Writer Joelsica appears retired for the moment. However, "Marissa Davenport" rises from the ashes of "Jessica Langston" sending emails to people.  So, we now have "Joelrissa" writing posts and emails on behalf of VOJF.

So, where does this all go?  Into the gutter. Even further down. VOJF is old news and the mystery of who is behind VOJF is solved to my (and others) satisfaction.  The purpose of VOJF is pretty clear:  Slut-shame and tag Robert, his family, and friends. 

All I can say is that between CRT and VOJF, there is no contest. CRT is a blog that covers copyright trolling and the people who do it. VOJF is "self-evident".

I would venture to say that Joelsica/Joelrissa will continue making daily posts to his heart's content and pay $20/month ($240/month) to Squarespace for that privilege.  But it seems likely that Robert is not going to back down and NO ONE in Jupiter FL gives a shit about VOJF.  But "Marissa" can continue sending her emails into the Jupiter FL vacuum. Marissa might get better results emailing Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

This is a losing and embarrassing PR battle for CEO Joel. The singular focus of VOJF paints Joelsica/Joelrissa in a much sillier and embarrassing light upon himself than anything that he has highlighted about Robert or CRT so far. Honestly, people know hard core porn when they see it. Trying to attribute Robert or CRT to porn is downright silly. And regarding occasional profanity on CRT? It isn't a kids website and no one cares about the occasional inappropriate word. And this harping about Trish supporting her husband of 20+ years because he wrote some insulting or politically-incorrect statements on a niche blog?  Can we say "Hillary Clinton" or any other woman who stood by their husbands for doing far more egregious things?  Trish ain't going to divorce Robert over this! Does that even need to be said?  And what is the crack about where Bryce lives? Because Robert mentioned Brendon? Brendon is much more higher profile, was an Adlife executive, and far more established than Bryce for gods sake.

Honestly, if Robert decides to get off the "high-road" and go the "low-road" (which no one is encouraging), no one is going to chastise Robert for doing so given the 48 other disgusting VOJF posts. As far as I am concerned, people will be MORE SYMPATHETIC to Robert the harder VOJF goes on the bullshit tags and attacks of innocents.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on February 20, 2017, 09:19:52 AM
Well written analysis, Matthew!  Sadly, someone who has vowed to "destroy Robert" won't see it that way.  He can't be objective about any of this, because he is way too close to it.  My thought was that Robert understood that and that was why Robert wrote the open letter to Brendon - in the hopes that the son could get the father to look at things a little less emotionally.

I am starting to enjoy watching this unfold.  The more Joel digs at Robert, the deeper a hole he makes for himself.  I remember seeing Joel's Facebook account on the screen shot posted on VOJF.  I just wasn't sharp witted enough to screen capture it, because I didn't think Joel would figure out the mistake he had made.  Good for him for figuring it out.  Too bad it was too late.  In case anyone missed what you unveiled in your last post, I will state it clearly for all to read.

VOJF is Joel Albrizio's creation.
Title: Another Nugget Linking Joel to VOJF
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 22, 2017, 04:13:27 PM
Here is an article going over the latest nugget/screen capture showing an apparent association of Joel Albrizio with VOJF

http://copyrightantibullyingact.org/site/more-evidence-linking-joel-albrizio-vojf/
Title: Re: Another Nugget Linking Joel to VOJF
Post by: Matthew Chan on February 23, 2017, 07:46:30 PM
Greg,

Good article and a good analysis.  Most of us have come to the same conclusions as you did.

However, there is one point that I am not sure I agree with you.  I have found the recurring statement by Joel "I am not your blogger" very peculiar. 

Most people would very simply say "I am not the writer (or blogger) of VOJF."  It is the most direct and precise statement to deny being the author of VOJF.  But "I am not your blogger" is more vague and appears to be carefully crafted.  Joel is telling "a truth of sorts" when he says "I am not YOUR blogger".  If Joel is trying to be truthful, it simply means that his blogging on VOJF is not ABOUT "YOU" (the receiver of that statement).

In this context, Joel could mean "I am Robert's blogger" meaning that VOJF posts (even if they might occasionally refer to "others") are directed at Robert. Clearly, other people have chimed in on VOJF and MANY people (including me, Oscar, Greg, April, Stinger, Peeved, DTD, etc.) have supported Robert but VOJF is relentlessly focused on Robert and his family. Some people get hate mail, Robert gets a disgusting "hate site" dedicated to him and his family. And Robert has been very restrained by comparison. Certainly much more restrained than others in his shoes might be.

And if we are going to go back and analyze the truthfulness of other people's statements relating to VOJF, VOJF interestingly calls for content about Linda Ellis and John Jolin taken down from CRT (but NOT Tim McCormack or anyone else that was written about).

Linda states: "It ain’t me Snuffleupagus and your writing about me is slander that has been copied and saved with the hundreds of other pages of evidence.... But, it’s NOT my blog. I didn’t create it and I have never posted on it except to share examples of what you’ve done to me…and I DID use my name. I am only brought into this fiasco because the immature creations you’ve posted exemplify (and expose) your behavior...

It can be interpreted that Linda might be walking a thin line regarding her involvement with VOJF.  She says "It's not my blog."  Translation: "VOJF is not HER blog and she didn't create it or post on it except to share examples..." She doesn't say she DOESN'T know who is behind VOJF. Linda also DOESN'T state whether or not she is involved or in communication with the author of VOJF. 

What I do find peculiar is, out of the dozens of copyright extortion people/firms discussed over the years, how VOJF seems to be "taking up" for three people:  Joel, Linda and John. But no mention of Tim McCormack despite a subtle mention of support from Seattle very early on. John has made no public statement whatsoever regarding VOJF but it seems peculiar VOJF seems to be advocating for John.

My gut feeling is that the very narrow focus of advocating for Linda and John but not anyone else is NOT a coincidence here. First, VOJF can't easily publicly say "Robert needs to remove all mentions of Joel and Adlife Marketing". That is too obvious and self-serving although I think that Joel would be more than happy to take down VOJF on that basis alone.

Second, why does VOJF not offer a larger laundry list of parties to remove from CRT, only Linda and John? Because Robert has said and shown that he is NOT going to take down CRT. By VOJF offering up a small, short list, it gives Robert the ability to keep CRT up but also gives Joel and Linda what they want. Also, I think people who might have been approached by "Jessica" probably declined to be involved and smartly decided to not get dragged into an online smear campaign. Tim, in particular, would be an easy person have get involved if he wanted to. But I suspect Tim smartly declined, "moved on", and focused on his new cannabis venture (entirely legal in Washington state). It is a smart move on Tim's part because he will make MANY people happy being a supplier of cannabis. He will probably make a bunch of money.  People will HAPPILY thank him and give him money for his business-grown product vs. his old business of being a copyright money collector for Getty Images.

In light of VOJF new posts, I would bet good money that Linda has been or is in communication with Joel. She can continue truthfully denying she posts or writes on VOJF. But who knows what communications may be happening?  I won't get into specific quotes on VOJF but there are some very obscure mentions on VOJF of very small interesting and peculiar details that indicate to me that Linda and/or John have been in communication with Joel. There are simply some obscure personal details I don't think would have ever been written on VOJF without some communication from Linda or John.

So, what we now have is a variation and interpretation of "truth telling" going on but one has to really pay attention to the details, nuances, and subtleties going on that the general public may not be aware of.

But the more posts that go up on VOJF and emails that are sent by "Jessica", "Marissa", etc. the more evidence points towards Pawtucket, Rhode Island and Joel himself. The PNG screenshot from VOJF that Greg shared which shows Joel's smiling face does NOT help the situation at all.

Here is an article going over the latest nugget/screen capture showing an apparent association of Joel Albrizio with VOJF

http://copyrightantibullyingact.org/site/more-evidence-linking-joel-albrizio-vojf/
Title: Re: Even More Proof Joel Albrizio Is Involved With VOJF
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on March 02, 2017, 04:46:09 PM
We have now had two new pieces of information linking Joel Albrizio and AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog in a weeks time. The first was when a screenshot of Robert Krausankas'Facebook page appeared on the VOJF blog. The image was only up for a few hours before it was taken down, edited and reposted but while it was up we were able to get screen captures of it showing that Joel Albrizio was the person logged in to the Facebook account at the time the original screen capture was taken.

If that wasn't enough we now have what I consider to be the biggest piece of evidence linking Joel Albrizio/AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog to date. A new website created by AdLife Marketing with a permanent link on each page to the VOJF blog.

You can read all the background and see the screen captures in this article at Copyright Anti-Bullying Act.

http://copyrightantibullyingact.org/site/can-joel-albrizio-continue-to-deny-his-involvement-with-voices-of-jupiter-florida/
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on March 03, 2017, 11:08:25 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCmuATH2yzo ....pretty much sums it up...

Looks like April Brown had some pent up energy to release..

https://www.aprilbrown.com/copyright-infringement-the-das/joelalbrizioepicfail
Title: Re: Even More Proof Joel Albrizio Is Involved With VOJF
Post by: Matthew Chan on March 03, 2017, 06:11:41 PM
I must confess that I was honestly dumbfounded and confounded when I saw the GrowingtheGrocer website have "Joel Albrizio" & "Voices of Jupiter Florida" URL/website links right there so prominently under his own "About" page in the Footer section. Those screenshots (which I also grabbed for myself) are just real stunners.

I guess I am naive. I thought perhaps that was a reluctant admission of him owning up to VOJF.  But then as soon as Greg's post goes up, the links to "Joel Albrizio" and VOJF suddenly disappeared.

But MAYBE it was one of his employees or contractors that did that by mistake. And perhaps someone has gotten a verbal-spanky-spanky for that online faux pas.  He is just having a very tough time staying hidden. I would say to him, just come out of the closet and own up to VOJF. It is the worst kept secret and worst "anonymous" online presence we have ever seen.

Forget about taking down VOJF for now, I call for Joel to just CONFESS to being behind VOJF!  The back-stretching, neck-tightening, leg-pulling, arm-cramping statement "I am not your blogger" just can't fly! I suppose he has a right plead the Fifth, the right to not self-incriminate himself.

At this rate, we now have a Gallery of all this VOJF evidence piling up! LOL.

We have now had two new pieces of information linking Joel Albrizio and AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog in a weeks time. The first was when a screenshot of Robert Krausankas'Facebook page appeared on the VOJF blog. The image was only up for a few hours before it was taken down, edited and reposted but while it was up we were able to get screen captures of it showing that Joel Albrizio was the person logged in to the Facebook account at the time the original screen capture was taken.

If that wasn't enough we now have what I consider to be the biggest piece of evidence linking Joel Albrizio/AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog to date. A new website created by AdLife Marketing with a permanent link on each page to the VOJF blog.

You can read all the background and see the screen captures in this article at Copyright Anti-Bullying Act.

http://copyrightantibullyingact.org/site/can-joel-albrizio-continue-to-deny-his-involvement-with-voices-of-jupiter-florida/
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on March 03, 2017, 06:19:30 PM
Yeah, April doesn't like to be lied to, lied about, be conned, or treated like an idiot. She is real sensitive that way. That email that April shared shows Joel trying to shmooze her.

And if there was ever a Voices of Seattle website ever launched against her, I think April would then crank out more posts and videos than the rest of us combined! Joel thought she was helping Linda by advocating for her and Linda thought it was smart to be part of VOJF. I would say, it was not a bright move.

April has a lot of energy, more than most of us combined. I think Linda knows that but Joel might not.

Looks like April Brown had some pent up energy to release..

https://www.aprilbrown.com/copyright-infringement-the-das/joelalbrizioepicfail
Title: Re: Even More Proof Joel Albrizio Is Involved With VOJF
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on March 03, 2017, 06:55:28 PM
I must confess that I was honestly dumbfounded and confounded when I saw the GrowingtheGrocer website have "Joel Albrizio" & "Voices of Jupiter Florida" URL/website links right there so prominently under his own "About" page in the Footer section. Those screenshots (which I also grabbed for myself) are just real stunners.

I guess I am naive. I thought perhaps that was a reluctant admission of him owning up to VOJF.  But then as soon as Greg's post goes up, the links to "Joel Albrizio" and VOJF suddenly disappeared.

But MAYBE it was one of his employees or contractors that did that by mistake. And perhaps someone has gotten a verbal-spanky-spanky for that online faux pas.  He is just having a very tough time staying hidden. I would say to him, just come out of the closet and own up to VOJF. It is the worst kept secret and worst "anonymous" online presence we have ever seen.

Forget about taking down VOJF for now, I call for Joel to just CONFESS to being behind VOJF!  The back-stretching, neck-tightening, leg-pulling, arm-cramping statement "I am not your blogger" just can't fly! I suppose he has a right plead the Fifth, the right to not self-incriminate himself.

At this rate, we now have a Gallery of all this VOJF evidence piling up! LOL.

We have now had two new pieces of information linking Joel Albrizio and AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog in a weeks time. The first was when a screenshot of Robert Krausankas'Facebook page appeared on the VOJF blog. The image was only up for a few hours before it was taken down, edited and reposted but while it was up we were able to get screen captures of it showing that Joel Albrizio was the person logged in to the Facebook account at the time the original screen capture was taken.

If that wasn't enough we now have what I consider to be the biggest piece of evidence linking Joel Albrizio/AdLife Marketing to the VOJF blog to date. A new website created by AdLife Marketing with a permanent link on each page to the VOJF blog.

You can read all the background and see the screen captures in this article at Copyright Anti-Bullying Act.

http://copyrightantibullyingact.org/site/can-joel-albrizio-continue-to-deny-his-involvement-with-voices-of-jupiter-florida/

Being dishonest, lying and trying to hide behind a fake persona is a huge effort, and rarely works out well. to much crap to keep track of..Give them enough rope and their bound to get hung up at some point. This is a perfect example of that.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Amy Stewart on March 03, 2017, 11:16:43 PM
I'm checking in on this saga after a long hiatus. Wow-- I can't believe how sloppy Joel is at covering his tracks. I wonder what he hopes to accomplish now that it's obvious, for all practical purposes, that he's the one behind this.

I also see that his new GrowTheGrocer.com website is a Squarespace site, like VOJF. Another little coincidence.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on March 04, 2017, 12:14:55 AM
It seems quite clear Joel's current family of Squarespace websites are JoelAlbrizio.com, VOJF, and GrowingtheGrocer.com.  My guess is that Squarespace was trying to be helpful in cross-promoting the other websites that an account holder has! Like I said, I naively thought the links were a reluctant admission of VOJF by Joel. But that does not appear the case given the swift removal of the footer links.

Joel is the online OJ Simpson. "If I Wrote It"  "IF I Posted It" are titles that come to mind. Everyone "knows" he did it. He leaves cookie crumbs everywhere for people to find.  I almost wonder if he subconsciously wants to come out. After all, I must confess he is a pretty good self-promoter and self-marketer in some respects. Although VOJF is disgusting and a disaster of epic proportions.

We don't want him working for the CIA on behalf of the USA that is for sure! LOL.

I'm checking in on this saga after a long hiatus. Wow-- I can't believe how sloppy Joel is at covering his tracks. I wonder what he hopes to accomplish now that it's obvious, for all practical purposes, that he's the one behind this.

I also see that his new GrowTheGrocer.com website is a Squarespace site, like VOJF. Another little coincidence.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on March 04, 2017, 01:41:54 PM
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  I almost wonder if he subconsciously wants to come out. After all, I must confess he is a pretty good self-promoter and self-marketer in some respects. Although VOJF is disgusting and a disaster of epic proportions.

OR maybe he is just dumber than a box of rocks.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on March 04, 2017, 05:15:48 PM
OR maybe he is just dumber than a box of rocks.

How dare you insult rocks like that!
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on March 05, 2017, 12:36:59 PM
I have been watching the VOJF blog over the last 48 hours in here is another bit of circumstantial evidence showing that it is all Joel Albrizio. When Robert posted his open letter to Brendan Albrizio, VOJF responded with an open letter to Roberts wife in the head of the volleyball league Robert's daughter attends the next day. Likewise pretty much any time Robert makes a post about Mr. Albrizio there is a corresponding post made on VOJF the next day.

If this were a partnership between Joel Albrizio, Linda Ellis and other "concerned citizens" why is it with the flurry of recent posts in response to Ms. Ellis' recent victimization video there has not been corresponding posts defending Ms. Ellis on VOJF? Ms. Ellis has responded in person to a post that I made over on Copyright Anti-Bullying Act. She has been active on her Facebook page, her blog sites and in the comment section of other blogs but no posting of her new video or her rebuttals on VOJF.

The only person that VOJF has defended in detail is Mr. Albrizio and it is only after a post on Mr. Albrizio when you see the activity spike on VOJF. Again, this is just something I have been watching VOJF for and noticing.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on March 05, 2017, 06:01:53 PM
None of us are going to know definitively the connection between Joel and Linda. I do believe there have been communication between the two of them. I also think Joel might have "used" Linda in the sense of trying to make a "thing" of the out of context snippets of the old episodes of ELI Factor. I might have to go back to the video and grab a snippet of the disclaimer at the beginning and end of that episode so some people don't go running around purportedly "threatened for their safety" or because they don't like hearing or reading expletives.

Another interesting thing I am beginning to notice there are more individuals who use aliases, conceal their identity, and write in the third-person.  People don't sign their own names. They write about "others" when there are not like any "others" involved.

As an example, unrelated to Joel & Linda, is a Las Vegas "20+ year photographer" running around online trying to hide his name and send out these unsigned multi-thousand dollar "invoices". This photographer can't get his lies straight and confuses his "references" to a purported "Michael" who conveniently engages in unpleasant, negative DMCA takedown notices and copyright enforcement letters. But when he wants to speak as a noted, experienced photographer, he uses his own name, otherwise people talk to "Michael". That is the hypocrisy and deception he lives online. Talk to my guy "Michael" about it. It is about as effective and believable as Clark Kent using pair of dumb glasses to hide his alter ego. We have more people trying to create this "alter ego" and VOJF and Jessica Langston is one fine example of this terribly failed attempt. VOJF/Jessica Langston are the equivalent sham of a disguise as Clark Kent's glasses.

Back to the photographer, he is so paranoid about his real name being publicly discussed in the context of DMCA takedowns and copyright enforcement letters due to the "negativity". In fact, I have a quote where he practically admits to this because he doesn't want to engage in some "negativity".  I don't think he realized I caught wind of his public remarks on a photographer forum until it was too late. 

But the rest of this stuff where these aliases/alter egos purportedly speaking for "their employers", "their communities", and other thinly-veiled entities? GMAFB.  They have little or no support because very few will take their position and they won't own up to the slippery, snakey, deceptive behavior they engage in.

People want to make cracks and accusations about us associated with ELI.  Well, the easy answer is NONE of us running around making and extracting money and constantly make legal threats against others. We don't go around making more people hate us each and every day as part of them generating income. Most of us actually have to make customers or clients happy to earn money, not lie and legally threaten people month after month.

They are well hated and despised as is evidenced by the thousands of emails, posts, and comments made here through ELI and the rest of the Internet. Some have gotten smarter over time, others have not.

They can live with that legacy. That is THEIR "dash" on THEIR tombstone.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on March 05, 2017, 06:36:59 PM
I tend to agree with Matthew here..I also think Joel and Linda have spoken, and Linda did comment on VOJF using her own name, but I think thats the extent of it. I think Joel decided to "use" Linda for his own selfish purposes, thus dragging her further into it. Greg brings up good points, the only time VOJF posts is when something is said about Adlife, Joel Albrizio, or Brandon Albrizio. I'de be willing to bet if I started posted using Jordan Albrizios name, or perhaps Ashley Albrizios name, we'd see some sort of twisted, bogus made up BS on VOJF.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Matthew Chan on March 05, 2017, 09:44:37 PM
Yep, he has been pounding on Trish, Bryce, and the others for no good reason and recklessly, disgustingly, irresponsible, and unethically smearing their names.

And yup, VOJF will come back to life if you post anything on CRT. He has said as much. So don't post, or Joel will give you a spanky-spanky by hitting you with dash poetic words from a reality distortion field.

What is that list VOJF loves to repeatedly recite? Jupiter scandal, Jupiter crisis, Jolin dickhead meme, CG porn, Green Linda meme, Sit on toilet meme, crunt video, "Delete Joel, Linda & John" demands, hand-slap for using expletives/naughty words, smear realtor/volleyball coach, 1982, smear wife, smear college kid, Jupiter volleyball is terrible, Volleyball photo by Getty, web design biz at home, get daughter thrown off volleyball team, poke/email/shmooze/insult/threaten ELI members, "I am not your blogger", Jessica Langston, Marissa Davenport, fake FB account, Rhode Island Verizon IP Address, proxy server, Squarespace footer links.

Did I miss anything?

I tend to agree with Matthew here..I also think Joel and Linda have spoken, and Linda did comment on VOJF using her own name, but I think thats the extent of it. I think Joel decided to "use" Linda for his own selfish purposes, thus dragging her further into it. Greg brings up good points, the only time VOJF posts is when something is said about Adlife, Joel Albrizio, or Brandon Albrizio. I'de be willing to bet if I started posted using Jordan Albrizios name, or perhaps Ashley Albrizios name, we'd see some sort of twisted, bogus made up BS on VOJF.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on March 05, 2017, 10:04:04 PM
None of us are going to know definitively the connection between Joel and Linda. I do believe there have been communication between the two of them. I also think Joel might have "used" Linda in the sense of trying to make a "thing" of the out of context snippets of the old episodes of ELI Factor. I might have to go back to the video and grab a snippet of the disclaimer at the beginning and end of that episode so some people don't go running around purportedly "threatened for their safety" or because they don't like hearing or reading expletives.

I would agree with you Matthew. While I believe that there has been some sort of communication between Mr. Albrizio and Ms. Ellis I think the initial referencing of her and fake referencing of Mr. McCormack, when he said along with our friends in Georgia and Washington was just a faint to draw attention away from Joel. If it was all about Joel right from the get-go there would have been no question as to who was behind VOJF, as if we didn't know from the start anyway.

What amazes me is that he continues to leave VOJF up now that it has been linked to him and AdLife Marketing. I would think anyone searching for AdLife marketing or Mr. Albrizio would have to come across all of the VOJF articles and stories. I would think seeing the way it appears Mr. Albrizio has behaved, attacking and involving innocents would be a major turnoff to do business with his company. Unless the company is now focusing mainly on copyright enforcement for income which some have speculated on with the company's recent removal of all images and license rights over at LSA Creative Outlet.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: stinger on March 06, 2017, 09:14:49 AM
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How dare you insult rocks like that!

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What amazes me is that he continues to leave VOJF up now that it has been linked to him and AdLife Marketing. I would think anyone searching for AdLife marketing or Mr. Albrizio would have to come across all of the VOJF articles and stories. I would think seeing the way it appears Mr. Albrizio has behaved, attacking and involving innocents would be a major turnoff to do business with his company.

Spot on, Greg and Robert.

I hereby apologize to rocks, everywhere.
Title: Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on March 08, 2017, 07:51:57 AM
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What amazes me is that he continues to leave VOJF up now that it has been linked to him and AdLife Marketing. I would think anyone searching for AdLife marketing or Mr. Albrizio would have to come across all of the VOJF articles and stories. I would think seeing the way it appears Mr. Albrizio has behaved, attacking and involving innocents would be a major turnoff to do business with his company.

Yeah, I am just wanting to see if we start seeing any demand letters issued over the LSA images.  LSA was concerned enough about it to post a warning to all of AdLife's customers on their website.