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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #60 on: February 11, 2017, 07:37:43 AM »
Something else that "Joelssica" is not considering, is that if someone were to decide to get get nasty and really fight back, not only does the Albrizio name have many more members to poke, but also Adlife Marketing has a bunch of innocent or largely innocent people involved which could easily become targets, much like the author of VOJF decided to pull names out of a hat.. I'm fairly confident Brendon Albrizio wouldn't want his name mentioned over and over, and over again considering he just landed a new job.. At the end of the day I doubt Joel Albrizio really cares about his coworkers Sharon Ferretti, Douglas Fleaurant, Jeremy Howard or the other employees, but they all run the risk of being in the "line of fire" the longer VOJF stays online.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #61 on: February 11, 2017, 01:45:56 PM »
This is the inventory I have taken so far.

VOJF (Joelsica) has directly hit Robert, his wife, his son, a realtor, a coach, and Stinger. What is MOST NOTABLE are the REPEATED and UNWARRANTED hits and tags on his wife and son to intentionally smear them without cause. VOJF has made indirect swipes against me (using Dash Poet, Linda's out of context videos) and Oscar for standing up for copyright infringement defendants "what does Oscar know?". And some weird tags on April. Robert's clients have been emailed numerous times.

Linda should think VOJF the next time she wants to accuse someone of cyberbullying.  Linda is being used again.  Let's be clear.  Joelsica has set a new low standard for "going there" where no one has lowly gone before.  "Go-there Joelsica" is a nickname that comes to mind.

Robert has hit Joel and "Jessica" back.  Robert has made one mention of Joel's son because he once worked at Adlife and was a corporate officer. (Prior to VOJF, Robert did criticize Adlife, Joel, and made mention of a couple of Adlife corporate officers.)

Joelsica is now trying to insinuate that Robert is responsible for the Krausankas family search results in Google.  That is amusing given that EVERY SINGLE POST now being listed was published by VOJF and Joelsica!  It is pretty clear who/what/where those entries are likely coming from: Pawtucket, Rhode Island using a Verizon Business Internet connection.

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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #62 on: February 11, 2017, 02:59:13 PM »
Something else that "Joelssica" is not considering, is that if someone were to decide to get get nasty and really fight back, not only does the Albrizio name have many more members to poke, but also Adlife Marketing has a bunch of innocent or largely innocent people involved which could easily become targets, much like the author of VOJF decided to pull names out of a hat.. I'm fairly confident Brendon Albrizio wouldn't want his name mentioned over and over, and over again considering he just landed a new job.. At the end of the day I doubt Joel Albrizio really cares about his coworkers Sharon Ferretti, Douglas Fleaurant, Jeremy Howard or the other employees, but they all run the risk of being in the "line of fire" the longer VOJF stays online.


The other point to make is that the VOJF posts are all B.S., made up stuff, innuendo and things taken wildly out of context while if Robert and were to "go there" and play tit for tat there would not be made up stuff, it would all be real and fact based reporting.  Again, I commend Robert on taking the high ground thus far.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #63 on: February 11, 2017, 04:05:02 PM »
I have been watching American Crime Story: People vs. OJ Simpson. Great mini-series and very educational and insightful.

That series reminded me of the book OJ wrote which supposedly recounts the horror of what OJ did to Nicole Simpson and Ron Goldman.  The rights to sell and profit was subsequently taken away from OJ since they used a sham corporation to get around the $30 million judgment against him.  That book was titled "If I Did It".

Maybe there will be a future book by Joel of how to impersonate a woman and "anonymously" smear someone's family that is titled "If I Wrote It"  (VOJF)
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2017, 05:14:51 PM »
I don't know how the VOJF blog aurhor ( Joel Albrizio ) keeps up with these bogus names and email accounts, we've already shown "Jessica Langston" as coming from a Pawtucket RI IP address, now we once again have another email from "Marissa Davenport"...who doesn't exist in Jupiter..shocking I know..

Joel/Jessica/Marissa or whatever the name of the day is also seems to think I am responsible for any google results for the garbage that clearly was written by him...sorry that's not my doing, the VOJF authors are solely responsible for that... and to label my "post" regarding Brendon Albrizio getting a new job outside of Adlife Marketing as an "attack" is really pretty stupid..up to this point VOJF hasn't seen an attack from me in any way shape or form, neither has any innocent parties. I've simply reported on Adlife business practices, and some of the lawsuits that Joel Albrizio has been involved with..But all that may be about to change in the very near future.

From: Marissa Davenport <marissadaven@gmail.com>
Date: February 10, 2017 at 6:25:30 PM EST
To: 1234@56789.com
Subject: Robert's Written Narrative Continues!

We had asked and expected Robert to better understand his affect on others, especially you.

It was our intention to move on and delete posted information. This has not been the case and so we will begin again.

Please let us know when Robert ends his written attacks so as we had intended we may delete posts.

Marissa
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #65 on: February 11, 2017, 05:45:44 PM »
Another "woman" comes out of the blue? This time it is "Marissa"?

When "Jessica" decided it was okay to smear Trish and Bryce and to CONTINUE to allow those smear posts to exist and get Googled, exactly how long did anyone think Robert was going to stay quiet? Tarnishing his name is one thing given how vocal he has been online.  But to drag in Trish and Bryce is dirt. In particular, it rubs me wrong in a nasty way because I actually know and have met Trish and Bryce.  I am especially impressed with Bryce. I might have to write a stellar review about all the things that impress me about that young man to offset the VOJF smears about him.

The January 25 "peace offer" is ingenuous because it is all premised upon lies and impersonation. No one in their right mind would trust enough to communicate to an immoral "anonymous" entity who has violated unsaid/unspoken family scruples.

Better to communicate out in the open where there are witnesses and transparency, then all the bullshit cloak and dagger innnuendos. Yes, there might be some ugliness and embarrassment but at least there is honesty.  As April has correctly pointed out, who the fuck leads a perfect life? And the threat of 1982 is old news. It is a spitball, not a silver bullet. But I am quite confident the person who fires the bullet will cause a self-inflicted wound.

And exactly which posts is Robert supposed to remove that has been so offensive and rude? Without firm confirmation, he can only make an educated guess to mean the "Joel Albrizio and Adlife" posts.  That is all any of us who support Robert can think of.  The long list of people who has been following this (and supports Robert) cannot credibly think of anyone else that would be responsible for VOJF other than Joel (or perhaps someone close to him).

And now that Joel's son's name has been brought up, it seems clear to me he is his own man and left Adlife of his own accord. It is possible Joel "fired" him but it is far more credible that a son left to find his own career path. It is an old story, not any attack that I can see.  Who knows exactly what the family dynamic really is? For all we know, the son might have had misgivings about Joel's choices in the business and left. Or he saw a good career opportunity.  Nothing nefarious about that.

No one is disparaging or blaming the son for the deeds of the father. But it would seem "Marissa" is now upset because Robert made the smallest mention of the son. I guess it stings to get a tiny taste of the 30+ posts going the opposite way against the Krausankas family.  See what Joelsica stirred up by "going there" first?  It has been okay for a continued online smearing on Trish and Bryce but remarking on Joel's son's move from Adlife to another company is somehow an "attack"? GMAFB.

Personally, I believe ithe true identity of Marissa is "Joelrissa". Who else would have the motivation to continue smearing and tagging the Krausankas family? I believe Joelsica and Joelrissa are the same person.

And why the ongoing impersonation of a yet another woman? What is that all about?
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« Reply #66 on: February 11, 2017, 10:09:02 PM »
One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #67 on: February 12, 2017, 08:15:10 AM »
I'm not sure if Joelsica  has enough trolling complaints against himself and his company, Adlife Marketing (I believe) to justify his own piece of real estate on this forum,  but I am pretty certain that it is not something he would relish.  Can you check that out Matthew?

Based on your experience (Matthew and April), do people who have signed non-disclosure agreements as part of a trolling settlement, tend to come forward and share their stories in an anonymous context like this forum?  I know from experience that Joel despises the anonymity provided here.  It makes it so much more difficult for him to dig up dirt on his enemies.

I still haven't seen a retraction or apology post Joel.

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« Reply #68 on: February 12, 2017, 08:32:44 AM »
Here's a fun little note I discovered while writing the last post.

Auto-correct changes 'Joelsica' to 'Joel sick'.  Do you all suppose auto-correct has discovered what we all know to be true?   If so, I am guessing that Siri and Alexa won't be far behind.

Once they all know that, it shouldn't be too difficult getting a Wikipedia post published equating the name 'Joel Albrizio' with 'Joel sick'.

Still haven't seen that retraction or apology, Joel.

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« Reply #69 on: February 12, 2017, 09:12:57 AM »
Another "woman" comes out of the blue? This time it is "Marissa"?

And why the ongoing impersonation of a yet another woman? What is that all about?

Yes "Marissa" has been around since the beginning, we just haven't exposed her yet...or is it him? or he/she?

The ongoing impersonation of woman is fairly easy to explain.. Joel Albrizio who is suspected to be behind VOJF has no balls, and likes to hide behind different names, and he chooses womens names because (i'm guessing here) that "women" would likely be more "offended" by the porn references. One has to wonder if Brendon and Ashley are proud of good ole dad while he continues to make a mockery of his name and already soiled reputation.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #70 on: February 12, 2017, 03:00:03 PM »
Ok, then "Marissa" is "Jessica's" twin sister. And the 2nd alias for Joel (someone close to Joel). I got it now. They are "sistas".

One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #71 on: February 12, 2017, 03:27:45 PM »
Unlike "Joelsica" and "Joelrissa" who seem to think sending emails to Krausankas friends/family to ruin them is a smart thing to do, I would like to point out that as far as I know, Robert has sent no emails to anyone in the Albrizio friends/family camp.... yet.

This is the danger of playing chicken and the "Joelsistas" constantly threatening, taunting, poking, etc. at Robert's family members and friends and keeping VOJF going. It only makes someone very unhappy.  I guess the "Joelsistas" are tag-teaming this and want to see how far Robert will tolerate things.

Mike Masnick of Techdirt (Techdirt has on occasion covered unusual ELI news and events) is credited for coining the term "Streisand Effect" has said that the BEST way to combat negative speech is to NOT try to censor speech as it has the unintended effect.  Mike claims the best way to combat negative speech is by generating EVEN MORE speech to counteract it as most people can generally sniff out a liar once all the facts are presented IN PROPER CONTEXT (unlike kindred spirits, Joel and Linda)

Again, think OJ Simpson.  He was pronounced "not guilty" of the double murders. But aside from isolated people and rabid supporters, the general public accepted the idea that OJ was a double murdererer. There was no public outcry to find the "true killer" after the "not guilty" because the general public already concluded and accepted that OJ Simpson was a murderer.

DieTrollDie and FightCopyrightTrolls sprung up to do anonymous reporting of porn trolls as a REACTION to ugly tactics being used by porn trolls to embarrass the accused into paying.  However, DTD and FCT today are well respected reporters (and often quoted in the tech press) of the porn troll phenomena.

Unlike Joelsica and Joelrissa, DTD and FCT didn't abuse their anonymity.  They used their anonymity in positive ways and they don't "go there" despite the fact they are anonymous. They conduct themselves with honor and a code of conduct.  Hence, 1st Amendment lawyers over the years have DEFENDED DTD and FCT to protect their anonymity.

However, VOJF is repugnant, not honorable, and have violated the unspoken rules of going after uninvolved and innocent family/friends.

One thing to add, "Marissa" has been around since the first round of emails went out.  S/he was the one who first emails Robert's wife.
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Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« Reply #72 on: February 12, 2017, 03:39:21 PM »
And this is what happens when someone decides to make false accusations and falsely attack another. They hone in on it.

So, I wonder how many times Stinger will demanding an apology from Joel for accusing him of engaging in criminal behavior when he was dialoging in an open forum. It would not surprise me if it was part of Stinger's ongoing signature as Stinger has been demanding an apology from Joel SEVERAL times now.

This is what happens when you go after someone seemingly "harmless" as Stinger. If Stinger was ever on the sidelines, the fact that Joelsica attacked and falsely accused Stinger has only given him more energy into this entire matter.

But I can predict Joelsica's response. He will keep wrongfully and disgustingly hammering and tagging Trish and Bryce whom I personally know. I call that fucking bullshit.

Still haven't seen that retraction or apology, Joel.
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« Reply #73 on: February 17, 2017, 11:08:45 AM »
An Open Letter to Brendon Albrizio

I'll just drop this here....Please by all means feel free to discuss and share..

Dear Brendon,
As an ex-executive of your father’s (Joel Albrizio’s) company, Adlife Marketing, I’m sure you are aware of the recent goings on in regards to me reporting my opinion on Adlife Marketings somewhat shady business tactics regarding copyright enforcement tactics. This has never been a personal quest of mine (or those reporting on these tactics) to tarnish your or your family’s reputation in any way shape or form. The author of The Voices of Jupiter Florida .com is solely responsible for making this a personal issue.

read the rest here : http://copyright-trolls.com/2.0/an-open-letter-to-brendon-albrizio/
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« Reply #74 on: February 19, 2017, 11:56:49 PM »
Okay, it was quiet for awhile but people are all stirred up again. 

As of this writing, there are now 48 posts on VOJF, all of them devoted to ridiculously slut-shaming Robert, his family, and friends. In most of them, the original stated objective was to have CRT entirely taken down. It seems quite obvious Robert is NOT going to take down CRT.

January 25's "A New Beginning" was supposed to be "anonymous" Joelsica's attempt to "resolve" the "conflict":

We would ask at no future time will our names be attached to anything negative by you or your hero members under any circumstances.  Our requests are simple but our commitment to your follow through will not waiver.

The problem with this is that the author of VOJF has never publicly admitted or confessed to being the author of VOJF. (Although the collected evidence so far suggests it is Joel himself doing the writing/blogging/emailing.) To admit or confess would automatically throw out the premise of VOJF being about Jupiter Florida. No, it is all about bashing Robert and his family/friends. He would also have to admit to fighting dirty by going after friends/family. He would have to admit to impersonating at least one woman (Jessica), maybe two (Marissa.) 

Robert, understandably perturbed, makes a small mention of Brendon (who was an executive at Adlife) and his sister here on on ELI so that Joel gets a tiny taste of the three dozen posts Joelsica made on VOJF about him, his family/friends. Then Joelsica gets all upset and spits out two posts on Feb. 10 & 11 before going silent again. My guess is that Joelsica either got busy or perhaps did not want to provoke Robert further and went silent again. 

Of course, we have a new blow-up on VOJF because Robert wrote ONE respectful and considerate open letter to Brendon. As far as I am concerned, it was way more respectful and considerate than the three dozen other posts Joelsica wrote.

Yes, let's have a VOJF blow-up because Robert wrote ONE open letter to Brendon. As far as I can see, Robert didn't EXCEED or overstep any boundaries. And certainly not anything that wasn't done excessively worse by Joelsica himself 40 times beforehand. In fact, if people read the VOJF posts MOST are open letters to Robert's wife, son, and/or Jupiter associates. But Joelsica is going to be upset with ONE open letter conveniently ignoring the 40 "open posts" to Robert's family/associates.

However, there is an interesting turn. On Feb. 17, there are 3 memes shown of Joel, Linda Ellis, and John Jolin (Linda's one time assistant) with the excerpts below:

We are a group of parents who are business men and women. Not one person, but many, committed to change what must be changed. In this case at times your are in focus. Not from a personal vantage point, but because you made us focus on you. That is why we wrote about you.

Today you stand at the crossroads of good and bad. You can remove all that is about the three victims above on CRT and Extortion Letter and we will close up shop and delete VOJF at 7:00 pm today.

If not at 7:00 pm our articles like yours will continue tonight at 9:00 pm and you are welcome to give us all you have, and please expect, all that and more in return.


Firstly, there appears to be a confession of sorts on why VOJF is so focused on Robert. The memes! The excerpts seem to suggest that VOJF was the collective effort of Joel, Linda, and John. That is VERY INTERESTING because Linda denied being the author of VOJF. John seems to be incidental to VOJF but Joelsica has latched on to the penis meme and attempting to "save" John.

Secondly, today (Feb. 19) Joelsica posted a screen shot of Robert's FB page fussing about Robert's 1-star rating of Adlife Marketing. However, that screen shot INCLUDES a photo of Robert's FB account from the PERSPECTIVE of Joel's FB account! How do we know this? Joel's smiling photo and name was on the upper right hand corner of that screenshot!  (It has since been replaced with a screenshot that has been cropped. However, a few of us captured Joel's smiling face on the original FB screenshot BEFORE it was cropped.)

If it wasn't Joel himself making that VOJF post, it must be that someone sat on Joel's computer and screenshotted it or someone hacked into Joel's FB account to screenshot Robert's FB account!

Between the fake Jessica Langston FB account which appears to be shut down by FB itself, references to Pawtucket Rhode Island Verizon Business IP address, and now this recent screenshot of Joel's Facebook account, it all but solidifies our group's assertion that Joel is behind VOJF.

Writer Joelsica appears retired for the moment. However, "Marissa Davenport" rises from the ashes of "Jessica Langston" sending emails to people.  So, we now have "Joelrissa" writing posts and emails on behalf of VOJF.

So, where does this all go?  Into the gutter. Even further down. VOJF is old news and the mystery of who is behind VOJF is solved to my (and others) satisfaction.  The purpose of VOJF is pretty clear:  Slut-shame and tag Robert, his family, and friends. 

All I can say is that between CRT and VOJF, there is no contest. CRT is a blog that covers copyright trolling and the people who do it. VOJF is "self-evident".

I would venture to say that Joelsica/Joelrissa will continue making daily posts to his heart's content and pay $20/month ($240/month) to Squarespace for that privilege.  But it seems likely that Robert is not going to back down and NO ONE in Jupiter FL gives a shit about VOJF.  But "Marissa" can continue sending her emails into the Jupiter FL vacuum. Marissa might get better results emailing Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

This is a losing and embarrassing PR battle for CEO Joel. The singular focus of VOJF paints Joelsica/Joelrissa in a much sillier and embarrassing light upon himself than anything that he has highlighted about Robert or CRT so far. Honestly, people know hard core porn when they see it. Trying to attribute Robert or CRT to porn is downright silly. And regarding occasional profanity on CRT? It isn't a kids website and no one cares about the occasional inappropriate word. And this harping about Trish supporting her husband of 20+ years because he wrote some insulting or politically-incorrect statements on a niche blog?  Can we say "Hillary Clinton" or any other woman who stood by their husbands for doing far more egregious things?  Trish ain't going to divorce Robert over this! Does that even need to be said?  And what is the crack about where Bryce lives? Because Robert mentioned Brendon? Brendon is much more higher profile, was an Adlife executive, and far more established than Bryce for gods sake.

Honestly, if Robert decides to get off the "high-road" and go the "low-road" (which no one is encouraging), no one is going to chastise Robert for doing so given the 48 other disgusting VOJF posts. As far as I am concerned, people will be MORE SYMPATHETIC to Robert the harder VOJF goes on the bullshit tags and attacks of innocents.
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