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irabala

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Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2018, 07:12:42 AM »
1. If you have lots of cash or jewels, will you keep it on road just like that and expect no one to take it? Is it not your responsibility to protect your assets? 
I think the same thing applies to these images. Is it not important people to protect the images from people copying it?  Is it only the responsibility of the other side?  There are so many technologies and methodologies available where the images cannot be copied or scrapped.  Even the images need not be indexed or added to the robots which prevent Google to copy?
Or at-least image should be marked with copyright and owner information?  How is it legally binding to the end user when the owner of the image does not bother to prevent some one using it when in public domain (even does  not bother to mark it with copy right information) and later crying foul?  Will owner's negligence will never be accounted for, irrespective whether the end user uses the images with full knowledge or without any knowledge?   
2.  And how review websites and travel websites works?  They also take these kinds of images and use it.  Do they take permission from all the companies across the world?   Or the third party user who does the review on the review website uploads the image , then who becomes responsible? 
3.  If the image is stored but not used and the web crawler shows that the image is in your website, does that amounts to unlawful behavior?

irabala

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Few Questions on Extortion Mails and Image owners
« Reply #31 on: April 02, 2018, 03:25:43 PM »
I have few questions:
1.  Will Storing image in wordpress media will amount to image theft?
2.  If I have costly jewels, either I will keep it my locker or keep with myself in a way that nobody can take it.  I will not keep on some public domain and then cry theft when some one knowingly or unknowingly take it.  If I keep it willingly or due to negligence, still I also hold part of responsibility for the loss.  If I think my jewel which is my asset is very important why I am going to keep on some street corner or on road?  Does that not apply images where owners need to protect it and also take responsibility?  There are so many technologies and methods where image cannot be used or google will not display it.  Is tempting or encouraging people to commit some crime is more offence than committing a crime (if this is a crime as stated by these watchdog agencies)?
3.  Please see the link:  https://abmahnung.sos-recht.de/en/copytrack/  what is your response for the same?
4.  See the links: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60020281 and https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/60809813  These links are just for your info.

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Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« Reply #32 on: April 02, 2018, 04:12:21 PM »
Services like Pixsy/Copytrack and photographers who use them make my blood boil.  A service for talentless hacks to extract value from otherwise worthless images circulating the sewers of the photo sharing "look at me" sites.  Half these so-called-photographers would chomp at the bit to get a few more likes for their crappy photos by paying money to promote them, but yet they somehow get pissed off when the images are actually used.  Look it up.  Do some research in the forums where they hang out.  I did!

Then name and shame them.

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Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« Reply #33 on: April 02, 2018, 04:52:09 PM »
There's one guy in that forum link above bragging about how he bought a new lens for his HOBBY.  It's a f'ing hobby to extort people?!

THIS is exactly what I was talking about.  These people would never have sold their images.  They're just cashing in on an extorted windfall.

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Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« Reply #34 on: April 09, 2018, 02:37:33 PM »
Hi,
been reading this topic as we also ran into Copytrack. We are a small company based in UK and they requested for 1 image from us 1000 E. We got the image in good faith from one of our partners and that image was of poor quality and used only on informational part of the website. We removed the image in question immediately from our website and offered to pay a fair market value to copytrack for the use (we did not have intention of using any image without consent).
They said they are willing to settle and we should make an offer. We offered 100E which is more than the image is worth which they declined.

They sent us a couple of letters after that requesting payment and in the last one they are threatening that they will use a debt collector agency(probably the same one MC2 mentioned).

We do not plan to pay such crazy amount for 1 image as it is plain extortion. We are now waiting for new letters from them. If they wish they can take us to court but they will not be able to collect as we are just starting and cannot pay such amounts.

We also contacted lawyers from https://abmahnung.sos-recht.de/en/copytrack/   but these guys are also very shady. They asked what was the amount requested from Copytrack and gave their quote of almost 400E + some fees. They stated that we should not pay more than 200E for 1 image. When I asked from more info like exact cost of their services, what will be the expected outcome if we hire them (what they can achieve with copytrack) they never responded. I would not be surprised if they work together with copytrack and use this company as a front to extort money from people (400 E to them + 200 E to copy track is 600E which is not bad).

MC2 any updates from your side?

 

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