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Title: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 04, 2013, 10:29:51 PM
*******I Need the Eli Community’s Help******


Today I was presented with an opportunity which looks very interesting. I finally received a response from the SEC on my request under the Freedom of Information Act for all records pertaining to investigation of Jonathan Klein and top officers at Getty images backdating stock options. If you do not remember when I discovered this and the associated stockholder lawsuits you may read my posts here:
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/an-experiment-against-getty/msg12037/#msg12037

There was an SEC investigation of Jonathan Klein, the top officers and Getty images over the backdating which Getty admits did happen though they claim it was clerical errors. The SEC has informed me that they have located four boxes of records pertaining to this investigation. I believe there must be some good information in these records which could be used to expose what goes on at Getty Images, I am hoping there would be a complete financial included in the documentation which would show the breakdown of Getty’s income and we could get a look at how much Getty actually makes off of their settlement demand letters as well as many more interesting items like that which we can use. The problem is that I must pay for someone at the SEC to sit down and go through these four boxes of documentation, redact information deemed too sensitive and copy the files. The SEC is asking for $840 for their time and $.24 per page and I am estimating final costs for getting this information around $1200. My intention is to release this information once I have obtained it so that everyone may see how the top brass at Getty operate. Here’s the letter I received from the SEC:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/123882396/01-31-2012-SEC-FIOA-Request-Response-Redacted

The reason for this post is I do not have $1200 to spare laying a round; I have spoken to Matthew and Robert tonight and suggested the idea of presenting it to the Eli community to see if anyone would be interested in helping to fund this. I am committing $150 to obtaining this documentation, Robert and Matthew have committed to $25 each towards the cause which leaves me needing approximately $1000 which would only be 40 people at $25 each. Right now I do not wish to receive any money I am just looking for firm commitments of any amount from anyone interested in this project. If it looks like the project will be doable at that point Matthew and I will set up some sort of secure donation method most likely using PayPal.

The reason why I am doing this in the sense of urgency is the letter states I must make a commitment by February 11 which is just one week from today. I will be contacting the SEC tomorrow to see if this deadline can be extended and why there is such a sense of urgency for the commitment on their part as they have stated it can take 18 to 24 months before my turn in the queue comes up in my documents are processed.

If you are willing to assist in this project please email me at [email protected] and let me know the amount you would be willing to donate to this cause.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Oscar Michelen on February 04, 2013, 10:38:52 PM
I'll match your $150 Greg
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 04, 2013, 10:45:04 PM
Thank you very much Oscar!! :)

I'll match your $150 Greg
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on February 05, 2013, 06:35:57 AM
You've got my support as well! we could easily raise these funds, the hard part will be the time frame to commit.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: stinger on February 05, 2013, 08:56:03 AM
Greg, I am in for $150.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 05, 2013, 10:19:02 AM
WOW!  Thank you Stinger that gets us to just under half way already!!! :D 

Greg, I am in for $150.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 05, 2013, 01:00:01 PM
I just received another commitment via PM for $25 to $50 dollars.  Thank You!!
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Mulligan on February 05, 2013, 04:32:22 PM
" redact information deemed too sensitive "

This sounds like a serious red flag. Folks at the SEC aren't exactly known for going after the big boys. See Bernie Madoff and the "too big to fail" banks bailed out by our tax dollars.

Getty Images has a lot of grease in government circles, so I'm not confident of redacted info coming from the SEC being of much use.

Charging this much money for information they get to censor? That's not something I'm willing to throw any of my greenbacks at.

From the Freedom of Information Act website:

How much does it cost to make a FOIA request?

There is no initial fee required to submit a FOIA request, but the FOIA does provide for the charging of certain types of fees in some instances.

For a typical requester the agency can charge for the time it takes to search for records and for duplication of those records. There is usually no charge for the first two hours of search time or for the first 100 pages of duplication.

You may always include in your request letter a specific statement limiting the amount that you are willing to pay in fees. If an agency estimates that the total fees for processing your request will exceed $25, it will notify you in writing of the estimate and offer you an opportunity to narrow your request in order to reduce the fees. If you agree to pay fees for a records search, be aware that you may be required to pay such fees even if the search does not locate any responsive records or, if records are located, even if they are determined to be entirely exempt from disclosure.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Khan on February 05, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
I am in with 150,-- too.

Khan
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 05, 2013, 05:04:17 PM
Thank you so much, Khan!!! With Khan's commitment that brings our total up to $700 in the goal is within reach.

@Mulligan

No worries my friend, there is always the risk that it might and that being not what we had hoped for and it will take a while to get the information too. That's why I wanted to be upfront about the redaction possibilities and the time involved to get the information. For me personally and the chance to get some hard evidence of the crap and unethical operation of Jonathan Klein and his cronies is worth it to me.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Jerry Witt (mcfilms) on February 06, 2013, 01:17:16 PM
Greg,

You can count on me for a contribution. How much depends on how well I'm rolling when the time comes to pay up. But at least know that I'll kick in for the minimum.

I'm not sure what you'll learn from this. But the one thing I do know now is that when you are on a mission, woe be to the trolls.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 06, 2013, 01:32:51 PM
Thank you very much Jerry!

Thanks for the compliment too, Getty is like a scab I can’t stop picking at. I can’t wait to see what is on the CDs I am getting from the Washington State Attorney Generals office, I asked for all the complaints that have been filed since Robert got the complete history last year.  This was right when I started my campaign and experiment against Getty and my complaint was not one of the ones listed at the time.  Robert received one CD with all they had; they tell me they are sending me 6 CDs of information filed since April of last year.  I hope a lot of people joined in and flooded the AG with complaints.  If there is a ton of new stuff I think a follow up letter may be necessary asking at what point the AG’s office gets involved.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/an-experiment-against-getty/msg13992/#msg13992


Greg,

You can count on me for a contribution. How much depends on how well I'm rolling when the time comes to pay up. But at least know that I'll kick in for the minimum.

I'm not sure what you'll learn from this. But the one thing I do know now is that when you are on a mission, woe be to the trolls.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Sandy443 on February 07, 2013, 11:10:00 PM
Greg, Count me in for the minimum $25. 
Sandy
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 08, 2013, 01:00:02 AM
Thank you so much Sandy!

Greg, Count me in for the minimum $25. 
Sandy
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 10, 2013, 01:55:01 PM
I will call Ms. Osborne at the SEC tomorrow and see if I can get an extention on the deadline or at least find out when the payment would be due.  I will let you all know what I find out tomorrow.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 11, 2013, 08:45:59 PM
I called the SEC today and left a message on Ms. Osbornes voicemail and ask her about the deadline, I also asked her when the payment would be due and to call me to discuss cut off limits on the search.  I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 12, 2013, 11:05:08 PM
I spoke to April Brown yesterday and she said she is on for $100.00  Thanks April! :D
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 14, 2013, 10:12:25 PM
Today I sent off an authorization to proceed with the records search with a limitation of $1200 total for the SEC's labor and copying charges. Thank you so much to those of you who have committed contributions.

If anyone else is interested in helping obtain these documents and seeing them I am still approximately $400 short of my goal. This is to great of an opportunity to pass up, getting the chance for us to get our hands on for cases of Gettys internal company documentation and there is no way I could pass this up. Thank you all again for your help and support.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/125575318/9-6-Response-Authorizing-Search-Redacted
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 12, 2014, 10:19:51 PM
Okay everyone, I can use your help.  It is now getting very close to the time I am expecting to hear from the SEC that they are ready to send me copies of the 3 cases of documents from their investigation of Jonathan Klein and Getty Images.  I have waited until it was close to the expected time of delivery before I asked for donations to be sent. I estimate the cost of this search, retrieval, copying and mailing of these documents to run about $1200.00

You can read the first post to see what this is for if you do not know/remember.

If you offered earlier to make a donation and are still able to help PM me or email at [email protected] and I will let you know how to send it.

I could really use the ELI communities help with this.  I plan to make these documents available to all but I could really use your help to offset the cost. 

Thank you.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 13, 2014, 07:32:01 PM
I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $775.00

Need - $425.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan


Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: April Brown (AuctionApril) on February 19, 2014, 09:27:19 PM
I am good for $150.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 19, 2014, 09:35:55 PM
Thanks April!!!
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 19, 2014, 09:38:23 PM
I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $935.00

Need - $265.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
April Brown
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 24, 2014, 02:34:22 PM
I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $810.00

Need - $390.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
Mulligan
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Jerry Witt (mcfilms) on February 24, 2014, 10:50:23 PM
Wait. Are you moving in the wrong direction?
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 25, 2014, 08:09:06 AM
LOL!  No, just tired and too many things on my mind.  Thanks for catching that Jerry, here are the correct figures.  I just meant to add Mulligans name to the previous list as a confirmed contributor but I have not receive his check yet so I didn't know the amount.  It's not been a good week.  :-[

I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $935.00

Need - $265.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
Mulligan


Wait. Are you moving in the wrong direction?
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Peeved on February 25, 2014, 01:30:07 PM
Wait. Are you moving in the wrong direction?

This made me laugh. I was thinking the same thing when I read Greg's post. Glad to see Greg has updated the info.

Greg, sorry about your week....it's only Tuesday dude! Sending you some good luck vibes.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on February 25, 2014, 03:48:24 PM
Thanks Peeved, I can used them this week.

I received another donation in the mail today from a confirmed contributor but I did not know the amount until it arrived.

I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $960.00

Need - $240.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
April Brown
Mulligan



Wait. Are you moving in the wrong direction?

This made me laugh. I was thinking the same thing when I read Greg's post. Glad to see Greg has updated the info.

Greg, sorry about your week....it's only Tuesday dude! Sending you some good luck vibes.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on March 02, 2014, 12:01:28 AM
I received another donation in the mail today.

I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $985.00

Need - $215.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
April Brown
Mulligan
Bernicem77

Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Matthew Chan on April 04, 2014, 12:30:35 AM
I received a tremendous amount of goodwill, support, and generosity towards help with my legal fees for my appeal fight last year.  It is only fair for me to return the favor to another cause within our community.

With that said, I am in for $100.  For our readers, you need not feel like you have to "match" posted contributions.  But if you are even able to contribute $10 or $20 that would still be a great help because it all adds up. More importantly, you may inspire others to follow.  It is the power of the ELI Community.

Greg has done all the hard work here.  We believe this effort is not in vain.  Whatever you can do will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on April 04, 2014, 12:56:59 AM
Thank you Matthew for your kind words and support!

I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $1085.00

Need - $115.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
April Brown
Mulligan
Bernicem77
Matthew Chan
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi) on April 04, 2014, 10:04:12 AM
put me in for the 115.00
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Greg Troy (KeepFighting) on April 04, 2014, 11:05:59 AM
Thank you Robert!  We now have the cost of the documents covered.  I am hoping to hear from the SEC very soon as the time specified in their last communication is almost here.

Once I receive the documentation I will go through, get it scanned and make it available for all.

I will try and keep you all updated as to where we stand and what is still needed.

Total - $1200.00

Need - $0.00

Thank you to confirmed contributors for your help and support:

Jerry Witt
Stinger
Greg Troy
Oscar Michelen
Peeved
Khan
April Brown
Mulligan
Bernicem77
Matthew Chan
Robert Krausankas
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: stinger on April 04, 2014, 11:22:02 AM
Way to go ELI contributors!

I am proud of each and every one of you for showing Greg your support.

I believe that his efforts, may be the catalyst we need to get us started on fixing this mess.  And if not, they will at least cause Getty and that collection's agency law firm they use enough pain to either make them rethink their strategy, or slow them in the execution of it.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Oscar Michelen on May 06, 2014, 09:43:21 PM
I have a funny feeling that those exact names appear on several other lists throughout the Seattle and Marietta area.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Jerry Witt (mcfilms) on May 07, 2014, 12:27:48 PM
I suspect you are NOT talking about Holiday greeting card lists either, Oscar.
Title: Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
Post by: Matthew Chan on May 07, 2014, 03:09:09 PM
Or lunch or dinner invitations!