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Lapixa copyright email received by client
DavidVGoliath:
--- Quote from: Matthew Chan on October 23, 2018, 12:29:36 AM ---Another thing that Lapixa does is source "FotoQuote" which Lapixa claims to be "the industry standard photo pricing guide." The only thing I could find on FotoQuote is that it appears to be software developed by Cradox fotoSoftware. Without seeing the software, it sounds to me anyone can buy the software and upload any kind of values into it. As such, it does not strike to me as any real measurement of market value of any given photo.
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Myself, and many of my peers, rely on FotoQuote as the backbone of our licensing calculations, and their pricing engine is "baked in" to the professional photo hosting/sales platform Photoshelter, which is used by tens of thousands of working photographers worldwide, so (in my opinion) it's quite fair to describe the baseline fees they suggest to photographers as being industry standard, in the same way that other software tools like Photoshop, Lightroom, Aperture, PhotoMechanic etc. are also commonly in use by tens of thousands of working shooters around the globe.
kingkendall:
As far as I'm concerned a software that determines the market value of a photo is bogus. What determines "market value" of anything is the laws of supply and demand, not a software created by a photog organization to artificially create a market value. for their worthless photos.
DavidVGoliath:
--- Quote from: kingkendall on October 25, 2018, 10:15:23 AM ---As far as I'm concerned a software that determines the market value of a photo is bogus. What determines "market value" of anything is the laws of supply and demand, not a software created by a photog organization to artificially create a market value. for their worthless photos.
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Salty, much? ;D
Not to disabuse you of your notion but, as I said, tens of thousands of photographers just like me use fotoQuote and swear by it. Why? Well, their own website explains (emphasis added)
"Unlike other sources of stock photo prices based on solely on surveys, often with unverifiable data, fotoQuote’s prices were based on actual sales records.
The original 1992 prices in fotoQuote were based on research done over a 6-month period. To get accurate prices we reviewed thousands of confidential sales records from national stock agencies and photographers all across the US. We built a price grid and then checked back with experts in each category to be sure the prices were accurate. As a last step, we again checked the prices against thousands of actual sales records from agencies and photographers.
Since 1993 fotoQuote has been the stock photography pricing standard in North America. Often, when we would call photographers or agencies to check on their current prices for an update we would be told, “hang on, I’ll look it up. They were looking it up in fotoQuote!
For this latest version of fotoQuote we spent a year looking at every source of pricing that we could find. We spent a lot of time contacting photographers, going through the pile of notes and feedback from our customers, and scouring web sites and forums. We wanted to see what kind of problems photographers were having with pricing, and what kind of solutions were being suggested to solve them."
Matthew Chan:
DvG,
Let's assume you are correct about fotoQuote and its usage. For most letter recipients and even myself, we have no context to judge it one way or another. Thus far, we only have your word on this supposed industry standard. Maybe folks in European photo industry know about it. But it is new to us here on ELI. I can tell you that here in the U.S., where most of the discussions are focused on, there isn't a person in the last 10 years that has breathed a word or passed any info about fotoQuote.
So, that seems to me, that in the U.S., the folks sending out demand letters either don't know about fotoQuote or it has little or no basis in this particular market.
I certainly have no reason to believe that anything you stated is incorrect. But I can't just go by "DvG told me this, so everyone needs to believe it." There is no disparagement intended but people on defense need to be skeptical and question everything in these letters. After all, they are using these letters to squeeze questionable money out of people. After all, I think it has been shown there is a lot of dishonesty and misrepresentations used in the pursuit of many alleged infringements.
If there are links and info sources about fotoQuote you want to share with us, by all means, post it. There is an info vacuum on fotoQuote. I only did a cursory Google search and found very little of any meaningful significance.
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