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ELI Forums => Getty Images Letter Forum => Topic started by: Matthew Chan on June 16, 2012, 05:36:02 PM
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Under normal circumstances, I would not post this thread on the Getty Forum since this forums is primarily focused on stock image extortion letters. However, I have made an exception to "promote" this topic out of the Dash Poem Extortion Forum originally found here.
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/linda-ellis-lindas-lyrics-dash-poem-letters-forum/funky-junk-sends-out-extortion-letters/
Essentially, this started out as website FunkyJunk.com hired Charles Carreon (whom I will call Chuck going forward) to send cartoonist/humorist Matthew Inman of TheOatmeal.com an extortion letter asking for $20,000 out of the gates for posting defamatory comments.
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/funnyjunk_letter
Inman was rightfully surprised and outraged by this $20K extortion letter. He did something that even ELI has never done to fight back an extortionate lawyer. He posted this extortion letter, dissected his letter in openly in graphical format, and set up a$20,000 charity fund.
Since then, the charity fund has blasted way past $100K within 3 days and has lit part of the Internet on fire because of Chuck. And as if that wasn't enough, Chuck tried to get the charity fund taken down! This was NOT a legal defense fund. It was a charity fund intended to get some publicity to his case. And it worked!
Last but not least, even after all this coverage, Chuck still vows to find some law to come after Inman! He wants payback despite the fact that his client FunkyJunk seems to have backed off.
Chuck is a real tool and obviously an extortion lawyer. He says this has never happened before. That means he is used to extorting others and getting away with it. There are so many articles on Chuck.
Just do a search on "funkyjunk lawyer" or "Charles Carreon".
I "promoted" this thread to the Getty Forum up here for a few reasons:
1. It will be great fun following this story and making fun of Charles Carreon.
2. Help spread coverage of this story further on the Internet through our own SEO.
3. Tapping into the ELI Community's talents of beating back extortion lawyers.
4. Publicly support Matthew Inman, a person who truly deserves ELI support, unlike a certain reality entertainment blogger who I wasted my time on.
I am loosening up the reigns on the humor that I typically ask people to restrain themselves on. It is still NOT a free-for-all but Chuck really deserves what's coming to him.
Let me fire off some opening shots.
1. Charles Herman Carreon is not a model lawyer. He has a history of state bar infractions and suspensions. Check this out.
http://archive.calbar.ca.gov/%5CArchive.aspx?articleId=83602&categoryId=83521&month=2&year=2007#s19
2. Take a look at Charles Hernan Carreon's California State Bar record. This is the longest state bar record of any attorney I have ever looked up. It makes the collection lawyers ELI typically goes after look look like saints.
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/127139
3. I have posted Charles H. Carreon's California State Bar Suspension documents.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97293459/Charles-H-Carreon-State-Bar-Suspension
4. Chuck's Oregon State Bar record says he is inactive.
http://www.osbar.org/members/display.asp?b=934697&s=1&aw=
5. Chuck's bio and contact info can be found here. He has gone into hiding with his contact info. We want to make sure people can send him mail if they want to.
http://www.jdsupra.com/profile/charlescarreon/
I will add more bullet items when I find them.
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I normally don't come to the defense of these guys, but it looks like he had a 60 day suspension for one incident. Not a perfect record to be sure and it was a pretty serious infraction, but its not the worst I've seen by along shot and he has been clean since 2006 when he was reinstated after his suspension.
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WTF. This just gets better and better.
Carreon has filed suit against Inman, IndioGogo, National Wildlife Federation, and American Cancer Society.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/97506667/Charles-Carreon-vs-Matthew-Inman-The-Oatmeal
The Internet is catching fire again with this guy. Charles Carreon has got to be one of the most hated lawyers on the Internet.
Lots of news stories jumping around.
We will see a live case study of how well a hated lawyer can stand up on a losing case and live to tell about it much less have any sort of meaningful professional reputation after this is all over.
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Matthew Inman's response to the Carreon lawsuit.
http://theoatmeal.com/blog/carreon
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Hey guys sorry if this article is posted elsewhere we have info about Carreon in a few different threads. Here is an article where he talks to another reported about his reasoning’s for filing the suit to shut down Mathew Inman’s fundraising activities.
http://www.ramblingbeachcat.com/2012/06/not-backing-down-rambling-beach-cat.html
I love Matthew Inman’s response. I also did a Google search for Carreon and hit the images link and right there on the first page was the Bear love picture from Inman’s dissection of Carreon’s first letter, too funny. ::)
I think Matthew hit the nail on the head with the title of this thread. It almost seems like Carreon sat down and wrote out a list of “What can I do to make myself look bad, draw all kinds of negative attention to myself and my client”. Reading the links Mathew provided above Carreon certainly seems to have a history of making some poor decisions in the past, albeit that it appears this was back in 2006 and has had no infractions since.
This will probably be one of those moments when you are looking back at your life and say to yourself “What was I thinking” .
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This guy is in serious denial. He may yet become one of the most hated attorney on the Internet. Even Timmy and the HAN lawyers aren't as stupid as Carreon.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/06/20/charles-carreon-on-his-oatmeal-suit-being-unpopular-gets-you-places/
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This guy is in serious denial. He may yet become one of the most hated attorney on the Internet. Even Timmy and the HAN lawyers aren't as stupid as Carreon.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/06/20/charles-carreon-on-his-oatmeal-suit-being-unpopular-gets-you-places/
This guy is like the king of ass-hats! when the interwebs is done with him, there will be nothing left but Carrion for the vultures to pick over and rip apart..
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The EFF is joining the fight on the side of The Oatmeal.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-will-represent-oatmeal-creator-fight-against-bizarre-lawsuit-targeting-critical
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On the flipside it looks like Carreon hasn’t backed off yet and is still searching for someone to go after as promised.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120621/12032919419/charles-carreon-keeps-digging-promises-to-subpoena-twitter-ars-technica-to-track-down-parody-account.shtml
The EFF is joining the fight on the side of The Oatmeal.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-will-represent-oatmeal-creator-fight-against-bizarre-lawsuit-targeting-critical
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http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2012/06/22/copyright-2-0-show-episode-242-hole-digging/ (http://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2012/06/22/copyright-2-0-show-episode-242-hole-digging/)
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Oh hell freaking yes! When the EFF is involved, the odds of winning go up dramatically. It doesn't hurt that Inman had a great case to begin with. This has just gotten a whole lot more interesting.
The Internet is rooting for Charles Carreon to get buried here. Moron.
The EFF is joining the fight on the side of The Oatmeal.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-will-represent-oatmeal-creator-fight-against-bizarre-lawsuit-targeting-critical
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I think Carreon is in for some judicial butt hurt on this one. :) :) :)
Oh hell freaking yes! When the EFF is involved, the odds of winning go up dramatically. It doesn't hurt that Inman had a great case to begin with. This has just gotten a whole lot more interesting.
The Internet is rooting for Charles Carreon to get buried here. Moron.
The EFF is joining the fight on the side of The Oatmeal.
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/eff-will-represent-oatmeal-creator-fight-against-bizarre-lawsuit-targeting-critical
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Wow, Matthew Inman is seriously successful as a cartoonist and entrepreneur. Look at his numbers. Whew.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/21/oatmeal-carreon-comics-property?newsfeed=true
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You weren't kidding! Linda Ellis should take note of this and see what happens when you make something that people actually want to buy.
Wow, Matthew Inman is seriously successful as a cartoonist and entrepreneur. Look at his numbers. Whew.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/21/oatmeal-carreon-comics-property?newsfeed=true
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Inman deserves to make that much. He works his butt off and he's really funny. Good on him for earning himself some serious coin.
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As if Charles wasn't enough, Tara Carreon is jumping into the fray.
She actually thinks she is helping Charles here. This is truly a case of blind stupidity that just keeps giving.
The Carreons absolutely have no clue why this is happening to them.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/06/funnyjunk-lawyers-wife-wades-into-fray-calls-critics-nazi-scumbags/
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Watch the tragedy that is called Tara Carreon respond to the adoring public. She is truly a class act.
http://www.techdirt.com/user/taracarreon
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It's quite obvious what the "dividing line" is: Inman is funny, the Carreons are boorish, mean-spirited douchebags.
It looks like they're bent on proving that there IS such a thing as bad publicity. The Streisand-On-Steroids Effect!
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SEATTLE TIME ARTICLES WORTH READING
June 13 http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2012/06/13/funnyjunk-lawyer-surprised-by-oatmeal-fundraising-success/
June 18 http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog/2012/06/18/funnyjunk-lawyer-sues-the-oatmeal-for-bestiality-cartoon/
June 23 http://blogs.seattletimes.com/monica-guzman/2012/06/23/showdown-why-seattle-cartoonist-the-oatmeals-brilliant-joke-may-have-backfired/
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I disagree on the very last article, this lawsuit thing being something that backfired.
Carreon made Inman a bigger hero than ever and helping Inman earn even more money and fame. Although a time-suck and slightly inconvenient, he is in a great position and this is going to do wonders for Inman. It is giving him millions of dollars marketing coverage and fame. He is on the right side of this fight.
I would gladly step into Matthew Inman's shoes lawsuit and all.
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agreed
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I agree that this is not what I would consider having backfired, with Carreon trying to stop fund raising for charity, and his wife on a wild rant, this cannot help Carreon's case in the public eye. And let's not forget how this all started too, with Matthew Inman bloging about Funnyjunk hosting hundreds of his images without permission and often without credit then Funnyjunk trying to collect 20k for defamation. The whole thing was ill conceived from the start and Carreon just keeps digging himself in deeper all the time, while it appears that Funkyjunk has had enough sense to let it go and try to distance themselves from the fiasco they are still mentioned in every article about Carreon.
I would love to hear Oscar's opinion of all of this.
@Matthew
I think this would be a great topic for the ELI Factor
I disagree on the very last article, this lawsuit thing being something that backfired.
Carreon made Inman a bigger hero than ever and helping Inman earn even more money and farm. Although a time-suck and slightly inconvenient, he is in a great position and this is going to do wonders for Inman. It is giving him millions of free coverage and fame. He is on the right side of this fight.
I would gladly step into Matthew Inman's shoes lawsuit and all.