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Got a Higbee letter - how can I ask for proof of copyright ownership?
Ethan Seven:
@sid
Ownership of a copyright is always proved the same way, by evidence presented to the judge or jury. Registration is just a piece of evidence, it is not definitive. Registration within 5 years of publication only creates a presumption of validity and ownership. Evidence can include testimony from the author, witnesses to the creation, sustained and unchallenged public use of the work, ownership of similar photos, and on and on.
It is best practice to make sure any release you sign includes a provision that warrants that the releasor will idemnify you from any future claims of infringement from any third-party.
Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi):
I'll just add this...copyright exists at the moment of creation.."Registration" is NOT required, although it does afford more legal protections for the artist... It would be very easy for me prove if someone used my images..I would simply present the RAW file, which is the original file which could not be altered or duplicated..and includes all of the image data.
Matthew Chan:
For 99% of the people, there is no "beating this" in the conventional sense because it is being done entirely outside of the court system. Daring (or angry) folks sometimes decide they will call their bluff and not pay because they are not generally sue-worthy. Most people tend to negotiate and settle the matter. Everyone "pays" one way or another through their time, energy, or risk-taking if they don't pay financially.
You generally either settle or you mitigate and ride out the 3-year statute of limitations. That is the short answer.
--- Quote from: marketer44 on November 01, 2018, 03:11:43 PM ---I just received one too, claiming a small amount of $1400 for one image used twice. Asking the community to share their case information on how they beat this or what they did as the outcome of this situation. Thanks!
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Matthew Chan:
As others have pointed out, registration is not necessarily "proof" of ownership. It just means you were willing to pay money to claim ownership and register the image. US Copyright Office doesn't generally verify anything except whether someone submitted the paperwork correctly.
The US Copyright online system is horrible, outdated, and shows very little. It is a frequent complaint and needs a serious overhaul. No one can verify or corroborate anything whether you are the accuser or the accused.
And if you believe they don't own an image, you can call them out, call their bluff and not pay. IF YOU truly believe that being the key phrase here....
--- Quote from: Sid the geek on November 01, 2018, 11:41:54 AM --- In other words, is there perhaps a US Copyright Library website somewhere, to which I can ask him to provide a deep link, showing the specific image and the copyright number with which it is registered? Obviously if he can't prove that he or his client owns the copyright, we shouldn't have to even bother with this.
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