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Author Topic: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program  (Read 6206 times)

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I've been having fun looking for the slight variations on the note Linda made people publish.  There are various slightly different version. (It gives the appearance of an SEO company wanting to avoid duplicate content while getting as many inbound links as possible!)

I found meeting minutes on line that say a cash settlement was paid.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:5I7uOXOUjCcJ:www.villaswest.org/newsletters/JAN2010Newsletter.pdf+&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShYWCFpQCuzrv8GQTuKOb-ou3vkNTwFsNyPdNV5BoPKWeNlCWzqQRtonaiZ1ZKZYjk2M88sZu8T3pa-3mauYkKuRT3wAgK1CiSHEXSoLpuAdqJ3QUxuJVyfs9DWBQRE0qHfTaAH&sig=AHIEtbQi9vlPnC0yRVFE25XYGIf89Oz7tw


Status of the Copyright Infringement:

In the November, 2009 issue of News and Views, the newslet-
ter for Villas West, the Neighborhood Committee printed a
poem, “The Dash” without credit being given to the author
which was a violation of the copyright laws of the United
States.
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As a result of this error, Green Valley Villas West Condomin-ium Association was held liable for this act. After consulting with the Association attorney, Wendy Ehrlich, it was recom- mended to have the Association’s insurance agent make the contact with the aggrieved to attempt to make a settlement out-of-court. Fortunately for us, the CAU Insurance Company resolved the issue by settling the complaint by paying the au-thor the amount demanded, thereby saving the Association a relatively large amount of money. (See the article at the bot-tom of the next column as to one of the requirements of



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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2013, 01:25:47 AM »
Oscar made some excellent points in this thread from last year. What I feel is helpful, if the judge will allow it, is for him to read Oscar's opinion to understand why people (including myself) are up in arms over Linda and why we continue to write about her.
I'm a non-lawyer but not legally ignorant either. Under the 1st Amendment, I have the right to post facts & opinions using rhetorical hyperbole, colloquialisms, metaphors, parody, snark, epithets, & profanity. Under Section 230 of CDA, I'm only responsible for posts I write, not what others write.

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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2013, 12:56:20 PM »
I do not understand how a public person has the right to control comments about their product, personage and doings. If Linda can shut down criticism at this level then all media of all types would not be allowed to investigate. News reporters can actually mention outright lies from confidential sources. Reporters can report what they find but is not necessarily true. ELI, myself and others are reporting what actually has happened to them along with Linda Ellis's correspondence, postings, videos. If we don't have freedom to tell our own truth then what the hell is FREEDOM OF SPEECH ABOUT?? Linda Ellis needs to be dragged into court to answer for what she is doing. And if she wants to drag us into court one by one, get in line behind me. I can guarantee that 90% of courtroom attendees - from judges to juries to watchers has shared copyrighted content. Period. I dare someone to prove me wrong on that statement.

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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2013, 05:23:17 PM »
By coming after me, Linda is hoping to cut a head off the 5-headed dragon known as ELI.  She appears to be gunning after a 2nd head known as BuddhaPi.  Even if she succeeds in silencing me and BuddhaPi, where she is concerned, it will become a news item regarding squelching free speech. Ultimately, I become a martyr for the cause.

What's Linda going to do next? Go after Oscar, Greg, April, SG, UJB?  They will probably become even more vocal and louder if BuddhaPi and I were to be shut down.

I may have to zip my mouth but if that happens, then everyone will talk about this ground-breaking tactic of filing stalking claims against those that reveal too much information or speaking out too boldly.

She can shout stalking but as Oscar has pointed out in his unposted legal analysis, he believes my actions far from meet all the stalking criteria, intent, pattern of behavior, and actual threat that is spelled out in the OCGA.
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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2013, 05:38:59 PM »
I think if Linda is successful in cutting 2 heads off of the 5 headed dragon - which I doubt she will be - she will find that the math does not add up as she had expected.

If she cuts 2 heads off this 5 headed dragon, she will likely have a 7 or 8 headed dragon after her.  Why don't people learn to take their punishment when they screw up.  Or, better yet, make amends.

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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2013, 08:35:50 PM »
I would not worry too much that Linda Ellis would be able to remove any of the heads of the ELI dragon, I feel the only thing she has done his has awoken some of the other heads which were occupied with other things to now make her their main focus.

I myself am currently working out the details of a complaint campaign against Linda Ellis for the use of her legalized extortion tactics. Those of you who know me and how determined and focused I can be realize what this means.

And as for you Ms. Ellis before you go getting your panties in a wad do not take what I am saying out of context as you like to do this is in no way a threat against your person, it is my intention to bring to light through testimonials and experiences of letter recipients in the form of complaints filed with various agencies such as the Georgia state Attorney General's office, the attorney general's office of the state in which your letter recipient resides, the Georgia Better Business Bureau, the Federal Trade Commission and others. In just a little over a month from the letter in which Getty threaten me with legal action I was able to make a 4 1/2 billion dollars company with practically infinite legal resources at hand back away and slink quietly into the night never to personally hear from them again.

Also remember that these complaints are permanent public records and if enough complaints are received these agencies will start an investigation into the facts of the complaints. I want to emphasize the word facts as unlike you I am a person of my word and I do not exaggerate, fabricate or lie and everything in these complaints will be factual and backed up with case law.

Again, there are no personal threats in what I am saying so don't read it that way but I am willing to make you the same offer that I made Getty. I truly believe you are wrong legally, ethically and morally in your current stance and claims against Matthew. If you continue in your pursuit I fully intend to use my skills to assist anyone who has ever received a letter from you in filing formal complaints with the agencies mentioned above as well as others. You have it in your power to end this so let it go and I will be content to slide back over to the Getty side and continue my work there. And if you doubt what I am saying I have done is true please read this thread as I have posted all correspondence between Getty and myself as well as complaint letters filed against them in my continued campaign to bring awareness about what Getty images is doing that has not let up to this day….Until now.  Getty did not accept my offer and this was the result.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/an-experiment-against-getty/


I think if Linda is successful in cutting 2 heads off of the 5 headed dragon - which I doubt she will be - she will find that the math does not add up as she had expected.

If she cuts 2 heads off this 5 headed dragon, she will likely have a 7 or 8 headed dragon after her.  Why don't people learn to take their punishment when they screw up.  Or, better yet, make amends.
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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2013, 09:00:58 PM »
I'll put my money on Greg aka "Freak Show" any day!

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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2013, 12:57:39 PM »
The ELI team is amazing, thoughtful, educated and empowered. I remind myself that Linda Ellis does what she does because it has worked for more than a decade. We have established she does not care about her image or reputation beyond her FB following. Most people will never hear about her dark side. SHE has never been sued and I think that is the issue here. The courts can award her the statutory minimum of $750 and likely would if she brings a case against a simple infringer. This is because the law is a mess and has not been updated and fixed based on the internet and all these services that encourage sharing. Google and EFF are working to make a change in that law. Eventually cases will be brought and new law created. What we have to look at is suing Linda for extortion. Linda Ellis is an extortionist. She uses tactics that are not lawful  and this is the direction I believe we need to go. This is Extortion Letter Info. I'm with Greg. I do think we need to bring a very public case against her for extortion. Again, copyright infringement is a mess and it's time the general public is warned about this scheme so they can protect themselves. My goal is to stop the sharing of that stupid poem.

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Re: Attorney Oscar Michelen to Work on Linda's Lyrics Defense Letter Program
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2013, 12:01:58 AM »
I felt this one needed a thread bump.
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