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Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi)

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A must read!
« on: November 14, 2012, 05:13:00 PM »
I'm cross posting this thread from the p2p forum, as I know some of you don't visit there on a regular basis..this thread is a worthy read, just for the entertainment value.. I would have loved to be a fly on the wall to see the judges face as he read this answer..

thanx to "Freak Show" Greg Troy for finding this gem!

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/p2p-bittorrent-lawsuits-forum/prenda-case-defendant-gives-copyright-trolls-what-for/
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Re: A must read!
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2012, 05:46:45 PM »
First, I have to say that I like this guy, too.  That said, I really think he is taking a big chance here.   Things like the following quote (bolding mine) could easily be seen as disrespectful to the court:

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Defendant apologizes for comments that may not be appropriate, but I can’t afford legal representation and I am really pissed off that there are peoplein this country who are supposed to be officers of the court and represent it inan ethical and proper manner . .

In my very limited time in courtrooms (always in a non professional capacity), I have seen judges get irate about what seems to me to be a lot less than using foul language in official documents (smirks, appearance, attitude).  Maybe someone with more extensive time in the courtroom than me can comment on how they think this might go over.

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Re: A must read!
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2012, 05:52:04 PM »
First, I have to say that I like this guy, too.  That said, I really think he is taking a big chance here.   Things like the following quote (bolding mine) could easily be seen as disrespectful to the court:

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Defendant apologizes for comments that may not be appropriate, but I can’t afford legal representation and I am really pissed off that there are peoplein this country who are supposed to be officers of the court and represent it inan ethical and proper manner . .

In my very limited time in courtrooms (always in a non professional capacity), I have seen judges get irate about what seems to me to be a lot less than using foul language in official documents (smirks, appearance, attitude).  Maybe someone with more extensive time in the courtroom than me can comment on how they think this might go over.

I have spent considerble time in multiple courtrooms..( I'm NOT a lawyer, we'll just leave it at that) I can state for a fact that most judges would not take kindly to this, nor do they like to be lied to..whoever Ido think the judge would still look at the facts, and probably advise the defendant to stay clear of the creative writing..
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Re: A must read!
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 09:16:47 AM »
You can lose a judge's attention and respect very quickly by using inappropriate or overly colloquial language. Judges expect pro se litigants to play by the same rules lawyers do and  may give them one or two chances to get in line but after that, they will be held on a short leash.

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Re: A must read!
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2012, 03:47:29 AM »
Expanding on Oscar's comments on "pro se" litigants. I am experienced in "pro se" representation because I have done it many times over the years. I agree with the group that you do want to conduct yourself in a respectable manner.  There is some degree of latitude in some very specific instances if you are trying to make a strong point. But in most cases, respect, manners, and decorum rule the day.
I'm a non-lawyer but not legally ignorant either. Under the 1st Amendment, I have the right to post facts & opinions using rhetorical hyperbole, colloquialisms, metaphors, parody, snark, or epithets. Under Section 230 of CDA, I'm only responsible for posts I write, not what others write.

 

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