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Greg Troy (KeepFighting)

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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #195 on: February 21, 2013, 03:15:08 PM »
I like that mental image :). If this goes well I think Getty may be saying.... "Could we please just go back to that misguided and misdirected letter writing campaign?  ::)

Greg that post just put the glorious image of some Getty Images legal drone staring into his computer, setting down his powdered sugar donut, and saying, "uh-oh."
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #197 on: February 22, 2013, 11:27:12 AM »
Greg, thanks for your work on the latest complaints.

I found several useful legal citations in this particular complaint, citations that have gone into my declaratory judgment recourse file:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/126675147/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-2

Good job, as always, Greg!
« Last Edit: February 22, 2013, 12:36:37 PM by Mulligan »

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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #198 on: February 22, 2013, 11:49:20 AM »
Thanks Mulligan, CD number two of 6 should arrive at the end of the month and I will get those up shortly thereafter too.  I'm not sure why they are only sending around 10 at a time, maybe because there is a lot of boilerplate stuff and they have to go through and redact passwords to access Getty's online payment system and other items like that.  We have all seen these letters and I remove this part and leave the meat so you guys don't have to wade through the same replies to every letter from Getty.
Greg, thanks for your work on the latest complaints.

I found quite several useful legal citations in this particular complaint, citations that have gone into my declaratory judgment recourse file:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/126675147/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-2

Good job, as always, Greg!
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #199 on: March 05, 2013, 10:21:14 AM »
Here are the complaints from the Washington State Attorney General’s office that were on the second CD with the fluff removed. The next CD is due to ship to me on the March 7th.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580954/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-10

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580959/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-11

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580960/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-12

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580961/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-13

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580964/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-14

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580969/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-15

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580971/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-16

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580977/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-17

http://www.scribd.com/doc/128580988/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-18

Here is the current running complaint count (for both CDs), looks like they are coming in at a pretty good pace to the AGs office

Jan 18, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 17, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 15, 2013 – 2 Complaints
Jan 14, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 11, 2013 – 2 Complaints
Jan 09, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Dec 27, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 19, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 10, 2012 – 2 Complaints
Dec 05, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 03, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Nov 20, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Nov 19, 2012 – 1 Complaint
« Last Edit: March 05, 2013, 10:22:53 AM by Greg Troy (KeepFighting) »
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #200 on: March 11, 2013, 10:35:39 PM »
Here are the complaints from the Washington State Attorney General’s office that were on the third CD with the fluff removed. The next CD is due to ship to me on the March 14th.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847387/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-19

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847762/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-20

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847765/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-21

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847400/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-22

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847402/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-23

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847405/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-24

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847409/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-25

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847413/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-26

http://www.scribd.com/doc/129847415/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-27

Look closely at complaint #22.  Here is our first look at a response to a complaint from the Washington State Bar Association about Mr. McCormack.  It looks as if they are telling Mr. McCormack he must provide all the proof that the letter recipient has asked for to them for review, mark anything confidential as they were going to forward it to the complainant minus the confidential stuff.  I imagine the contributor agreement would not be forwarded.  I find it of interest that the Bar Association requires this information to see if the Getty/McCormack claim of infringement is valid yet Getty/McCormack expects us to blindly pay when they refuse the same requests for proof from us.  Getty v. Advernet, just sayin…….

Here is the current running complaint count (for both CDs), looks like they are coming in at a pretty good pace to the AGs office


Jan 18, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 17, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 15, 2013 – 2 Complaints
Jan 14, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Jan 11, 2013 – 2 Complaints
Jan 09, 2013 – 1 Complaint
Dec 27, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 19, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 10, 2012 – 2 Complaints
Dec 05, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Dec 03, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Nov 20, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Nov 19, 2012 – 2 Complaints
Nov 14, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Nov 07, 2012 – 2 Complaints
Nov 01, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Oct 31, 2012 – 1 Complaint
Oct 23, 2012 - 1 Complaint
Oct 17, 2012 – 1 Complaint
« Last Edit: March 11, 2013, 10:53:34 PM by Greg Troy (KeepFighting) »
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #201 on: March 11, 2013, 11:27:31 PM »
WTF! That is an unbelievable complaint letter #22.

I almost feel sorry for McCormack. That has got to be the heaviest letter against an copyright extortionist attorney I've seen in a long time.  It appears the onslaught and ongoing series of complaints is finally taking its toll.  The Attorney General's office is clearly getting too many complaints in a relatively short amount of time to ignore.

And while I am gratified that this letter campaign is working, it is Getty Images and its extortion team that is getting away with murder. (That is a figurative term, not literal, for the litigant-prone.)

How Timmy thought he could keep pounding away with all these extortion letters without providing any substance is beyond me. Most of the in-house Getty attorneys couldn't survive financially or support themselves outside the protective walls of their corporate mommy.

If I had to choose, I respect Timmy more than the in-house Getty flunkies he works for.  Timmy is stupidly taking all these arrows in the back for the Getty flunkies.  I absolutely hate the way Timmy makes money but he is out in the wilderness supporting his own office.

It's really tragic that Timmy can't seem to transition to something else and let Getty do their own dirty work. But if Timmy wants to put himself in that position, that is his choice.

This so-called "misguided and misdirected" letter campaign appears to be working in spades! Greg gets credit for spearheading this.

This is what happens when what should be a "loss recovery" model becomes into a greedy "revenue" model.

One of these days, someone is going to squeal on how Getty internally operates and reveal their quota and incentive system to maximize extortionate sales... oops, I mean collections.

I would also like to commend the Getty and McCormack letter victims for having the courage to stand up, speak out, and put their complaints in writing.  (Greg's cutting edge campaign letter program absolutely works!)  I applaud these victims unlike another faction of victims of a certain copyright extortionist (that shall go unnamed) who simply want a shoulder to cry on, let someone else take the bullets in the back, and stupidly pay in.

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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #202 on: March 11, 2013, 11:56:50 PM »
Just to clarify the WSBA letter is the Washington State Bar Association and was not from the Washington State Attorney Generals office.  The letter reciepient filed complaints with the AG's Office as well as the WSBA and included a copy of the response from the WSBA along with his complaint to the AG.  Mr. McCormack might blow off the AG's office with boilerplate letters but I doubt he would do so with the WSBA as they are much quicker to action.

Looking at the running totals on the complaints now, and we are only half way through receiving them, I plan to send a letter to the AG's office once I have them all asking what is the tipping point for them to start to investigate and act. 

The grand total on complaints right now stands at 84 complaints filed with the AG's office, and 96 complaints with the BBB.

http://www.bbb.org/western-washington/business-reviews/photographs-stock/getty-images-in-seattle-wa-37000916
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #203 on: March 26, 2013, 05:31:41 PM »
Here are the complaints from the Washington State Attorney General’s office that were on the fifth CD with the fluff removed. The next CD is due to ship to me on the March 28th.

It appears the fourth CD got lost in the mail as the date of arrival estimated for the CD came and went and then the 5th CD showed up on time.  I have emailed Elizabeth Williamson with the WA AG and ask her to resend the fourth CD.

Complaint #31 is a good one and looks like another Bar Association complaint was filed against Mr. McCormack. 

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513794/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-28

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513803/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-29

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513830/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-30

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513851/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-31

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513862/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-32

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513883/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-33

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513887/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-34

http://www.scribd.com/doc/132513893/WA-State-AG-Complaint-New-35


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Note: In fairness of reporting and trying to make sure I am accurate with my facts, complaint 31 may not be legitimate, Getty Images has just sued Virtual Clinics for copyright infringement and if it is proven in court that this is a false complaint I will remove it from this list and it will not be included in the stats.  You may read the complaint Getty filed here:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/135014487/Getty-v-Virtual-Clinics


I will keep you posted as the trail progresses. 
« Last Edit: April 09, 2013, 07:22:46 PM by Greg Troy (KeepFighting) »
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #204 on: March 26, 2013, 05:44:51 PM »
There are some nice tid-bits in # 31 that I may choose to use if I have to write additional letters to bar associations and agencies complaining about  McCormack's behavior.

Thanks for that Greg!

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« Reply #205 on: March 26, 2013, 06:56:17 PM »
Wow! That is pretty scorching. I wonder how much longer Tim will continue to (mis)represent the Getty claim with a "V." or "Vs." Bet that practice will be coming to a close.
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« Reply #206 on: March 26, 2013, 07:50:39 PM »
I don't know, I saw a letter where it had all the unrelated cases listed in it again after the last several prior to that had them taken out. 

Wow! That is pretty scorching. I wonder how much longer Tim will continue to (mis)represent the Getty claim with a "V." or "Vs." Bet that practice will be coming to a close.
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Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« Reply #207 on: March 27, 2013, 05:33:13 PM »
Complaint 31

Did you see that they are in Switzerland ? Normaly GI use this lawyer doing the sh... work:

http://www.mplaw.ch/eng_team.html

How comes that Tim is doing this ?

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« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2013, 05:36:04 PM »
Sorry I posted to fast  :)

GI uses a. m.  (http://www.mplaw.ch/eng_team.html) law office for their  swiss cases so it is odd that Tim comes in too

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« Reply #209 on: March 27, 2013, 07:39:35 PM »
It looks to me that the Swiss Company is headquartered there, there is a branch in the US that designs sites and the company that Getty is going after is in the US and had their site designed by this company.
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