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Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« on: August 27, 2012, 11:51:19 PM »
Local Arizona affiliate KGUN9-TV aired a program about copyright trolls a month ago. After the program aired the reporter continued with the story and went to the Arizona AG Tom Horne to ask him about it. He basically said that he was not aware the situation and encouraged people to send him complaints. He even put this item on the AG's website

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The Attorney General’s office would like you to file a complaint with them if you feel that you’ve been wrongly accused of pirating porn. To do that, click here. Scroll to the bottom of the screen to access printable or online complaint forms.

http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/2012/08/27/arizona-attorney-general-tom-horne-encouraging-copyright-troll-victims-to-file-complaints-with-his-office/

This is one of the reasons why I feel it is important to get our complaints past the clerks and all the people who handle the AG's mail. Just as the Hon. Mr. Horne was not aware of the situation, I feel the same could be the case with the Washington state Atty. Gen. concerning Getty use of what I feel is a clear case of legalized extortion.

I'm currently working on a packet with all of the key information, relevant legal cases and copies of complaints filed as well as a means of getting it passed the clerks and into the proper hands. My plan is to have this packet ready to go at a moments notice along with several other things should Getty be foolish enough to try to contact me again either directly, through NCS, Timmy or through anyone else. But right now Getty seems to have backed off and has not contacted me for a while so I will not take any new action unless provoked.
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Re: Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 01:39:23 AM »
Wow, nice little nugget you found in mainstream media.  it isn't a far stretch for the Arizona AG to accept complaints of other forms of copyright trolling.
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Re: Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 08:57:17 AM »
Greg, I am interested in your means of "getting it passed the clerks and into the proper hands."  Because, Getty may be in a lull with you doesn't means that some of the things in your packet might not be useful to others here.

If there were a sure fire way to get it passed the clerks, I think a lot of us would want to know about it.

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Re: Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 09:10:28 PM »
@Stinger

I am going to cross post this reply into my thread "An Experiment against Getty" as I think it is pertinent there as well.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/an-experiment-against-getty/

As the thread title suggests this letter writing campaign was an experiment for me to see how the system works, the types of replies I could expect as well as the outcome. From the beginning of the campaign this part was just phase 1 and phase 2 never happened as that was going to be an in-depth campaign of letting potential buyers know what they were getting into if they were to purchase Getty. Unfortunately Getty was sold before that can ramp up.

As I am sure you are well aware this forum is pretty much required reading at Getty and I would rather not discuss in detail all of my plans as I do not want Getty to be able to prepare or possibly counter the next phase of my plan should it become necessary. I have learned an incredible amount about the complaint process and the way the system works and I think it requires a little thinking outside of the box to take it to the next level. I am in contact with Robert on a regular basis and Matthew on a semi regular basis and they are both aware of my plans and how I would do this. I am still working on the final details of this plan as well as still gathering all the information needed for my packet but I feel fairly confident that I could get this packet into the right hands at the Washington State Atty. Gen.'s office as well as my state's attorney general's office and if all goes the way I believe it will. I should even be able to bypass the minions and staffers and get my packet directly into the hands of someone on Capitol Hill.

As far as the packet of information I am assembling I do plan to make a large portion of it available through my Scribd account for those who wish to send complaint letters and join my letter writing campaign. I am not stopping my letter writing campaign, it is just I have sent letters to every agency I said I would and just like with the Ohio Atty. Gen.'s I will continue to send follow-up letters as needed and necessary on my current complaints and I will stay actively involved with the complaints I filed with each agency until the complaint has gone as far as it can go. I will also continue to advocate others to do the same and this is part of the reason why I have made all of communications between Getty and myself and my complaint letters available for all to view.

As Getty is now well aware I mean exactly what I say and I do not make idle threats, exaggerate the truth or flat out lie as Getty does. I should have all of my preparations completed shortly in Getty should know that if I receive one letter from them that another round of these letters will go out to the same places filing additional complaints, in addition this round will contain complaints to the Bar Association against Getty's in-house legal advisor Lisa Wilmer and the packets will then go out and into the hands of the appropriate people. The same applies should Timmy be so foolish as to send me a letter, the complaints would go out against him in addition to Bar Association complaints with the three states he is licensed in and the packets would go out too. The same would apply should Getty have a different lawyer contact me due to a serious case of buttpucker on Timmy's part. I will shortly have everything I need and ready to go so that should a response from me be necessary I can unleash hell on Getty within 24 hours.

The pause in my attack on Getty is actually a result of a very good conversation I had with Matthew where he suggested that I not fire all of my guns at once because if I did and Getty responded I would have nothing left to use. After considering this I am in full agreement with Matthew and have decided to hold the next step in reserve to see if Getty has had enough and wishes to back off or if they would like more and to see what I am really capable of. As I stated in the beginning of this post phase 1 was just an experiment for me to learn how the system works and how to work the system,  I have and I learn quickly. (Since I do not have the proper emoticon to choose from please insert evil grin here)

I hope this answers your question and explains my reasons for the temporary hiatus in my attack on Getty. Rest assured I am not backing down nor am I going away I will remain here and continue my best to try to assist others until ELI is no longer needed.


Greg, I am interested in your means of "getting it passed the clerks and into the proper hands."  Because, Getty may be in a lull with you doesn't means that some of the things in your packet might not be useful to others here.

If there were a sure fire way to get it passed the clerks, I think a lot of us would want to know about it.
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Re: Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2012, 11:05:20 PM »
Absolutely correct, never fire any more silver bullets than you have to to get the job done.  Always keep more silver bullets around in case the enemy comes back for more.

During the temporary respite, you continue stockpiling silver bullets.  The best silver bullets are the ones you never have to use.
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Re: Arizona AG Encourages Troll Victims to Submit Complaints
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2012, 11:10:23 PM »
After speaking with you I understood exactly what you were saying and was very grateful as I was going to continue rapid firing at Getty until I had used every resource at my disposal. Not only does this give me time to prepare an even stronger response but allows me the time to branch out and find additional avenues of attack. Thanks again for your advice and all you do for us.
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