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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Stupid Question
« on: February 05, 2012, 07:01:02 PM »
The reason why I asked this is due to not having checked my spam mail until very recently and on google, it disappears after 90 days.  And I was actually shocked by what winds up in my spam mail.  So sending a cease and desist letter by email has totally blown my mind.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Stupid Question
« on: February 04, 2012, 05:48:16 PM »
Why would someone send a cease and desist letter in an email?  If that winds up in your spam folder that you never check, what do they do next?  Is that when they sue you?  Shouldn't legal documents be sent via registered mail where you sign for it so they know you received it?  This blows my mind.

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The photographer has made millions?  He must have sued everyone around the world because most people don't even have the money to pay any of the hefty fines levied against them.  Seems most of them have to declare bankruptcy.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Introduction
« on: January 31, 2012, 07:02:51 PM »
Oh my goodness, everyone has a digi cam and you can get great shots even with a cheap one.  I've gotten great pictures.  I think may happen is that most people will shoot their own photos for whatever they're doing.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: TinEye.com
« on: January 30, 2012, 07:21:10 PM »
Even if you don't have stuff on your page you shouldn't have, it would still be problematic if some bot crashes your website because it wants to download all your images especially if it's image intensive.  That's definitely a cause for concern.   And if you got your letter do they think you're stupid enough to put back whatever they're angry about?

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: TinEye.com
« on: January 29, 2012, 10:45:43 PM »
When you mention head section, is that within the page itself?  I think any type of bots probably suck up bandwidth and who wants to pay extra for that?  You're only allowed so much bandwidth usage.

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It is strongly recommended to have a privacy guard.  Never mind trolls.  This guard protects you from identity theft and spam.  Identity theft being the most important.  It's widespread and even I have encountered this.  So purely for safety measures it's something I recommend.  You never know what someone may do with your identity.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Template Monster
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:20:59 PM »
Most people, myself included I am sorry to say, do not save receipts or keep track of things.  That can very well be a serious downfall.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Introduction
« on: January 29, 2012, 08:15:34 PM »
What I meant about not being fond of the practice, I do understand that sometimes it is necessary to pursue litigation, however it's gotten to such an extent that way too many people are pursuing this and the courts are being rather overtaxed.  Thus if there is an actual need to pursue litigation, it sometimes takes over a year to do so. 

And yes, I definitely take this very seriously as do the people I know.  None of us have money aside from what we earn in our day jobs.  We are quite horrified to have read what has happened to people.  Who on earth has $8000 stashed away for a rainy day?  Not many.  We all dabble with websites and one person does web design but doesn't exactly make a comfortable living from it so to be threatened or sued would be horrible to say the least.  I suffer from compassion and these are human beings who are suffering.  That always bothers me.  I am deeply disturbed by all this and very concerned. 

I imagine this may be in some other topic but one of my associates found this

http://rising.blackstar.com/getty-photographers-pessimistic-about-the-future.html

I noted that none of the photographers unless I missed it attributed this to all out piracy of images.  They seem to be having a difficult time getting photos submitted and then most turned down.  It interests me as an amateur photographer who's pretty handy with a digi cam. 

Thank you Oscar.  I'm glad that you've been able to help people in this situation.  Most people do become frightened when faced with what seems like the end of the world.  I hope that in spreading this website around that it will cause people to act calmly and rationally.  I will do my best.   :)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Introduction
« on: January 29, 2012, 06:54:26 PM »
I just want to say that it is wonderful to come across a place where you have a support group, educational material, someone who can assess how much in deep crap you are, and someone who can then handle the crap.  Running a website has so many pitfalls.  I now go back to my reading.   :)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Introduction
« on: January 29, 2012, 04:21:46 PM »
I'm glad to hear that they rarely file over a couple of images.  I imagine a handful of images would probably require a lawyer for sure.  Going price seems to be $1000 per photo and I don't personally know of anyone who can afford that.  I know I couldn't.  I read that someone was actually threatened with imprisonment for a photo.  That surely is over the top in anyone's eyes. 

I do intend on warning anyone I know of who has a website for any purpose that they can have their lives ruined.  I definitely want to ensure that people know about this and how it could possibly affect them in the future seeing as these people sometimes discover an error in judgment many years after the fact.  Hopefully people I know can learn from a mistake without it costing them dearly.  That's the way I feel many mistakes should be.  A learning experience.  Considering that there are literally billions of websites in existence, collecting money from people could literally wind up to a real profitable enterprise.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Introduction
« on: January 29, 2012, 03:06:24 PM »
Well, it seems like you need to be educated because nothing has happened as of yet.  LOL.  Something can definitely go wrong at any time it seems.  Especially if you had no idea about a lot this stuff.  Most people who create websites have no idea about many things.  They just want to have something out there. 

I just find the whole thing to be really creepy.  Disturbing if you will.  With some people only for example wanting the Internet to be filled with nothing more than corporate websites of a major level, this type of thing may very well be a tool utilized in that.  I don't know.  Perhaps major corporations do settle this but you would think you would hear of that.  At least none of us in our circle have come across that yet in our reading.

Stupidity is no excuse I suppose but I would rather see errors in judgment rectified than someone winding up living under a bridge eating at the Salvation Army.  This whole situation has come as a shock to the system to say the least. 

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Introduction
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:35:40 PM »
I guess I should introduce myself somewhat.  Have never received any letters wanting to bankrupt me for life so I'm not here because anyone is threatening me per se or anyone I know.  Of course, it seems like anyone who has a website and for the most part lives from paycheck to paycheck seems to be the target so I guess everyone may one day wind up in this predicament.  Forewarning and education is definitely in order here.  Learning a lesson from other people's mishaps is of utmost importance.

Due to my interest in photography and music, someone told me about this particular situation and I and a few others started doing a lot of reading on this.  I have photographed many bands as well as interviewed purely for the love of music.  There is absolutely no monetary compensation involved in this.  That's what I have a day job for.  If I found my photos or interviews on someone else's website, as long as I get credit in name only, it's an honor and pleasure.  A compliment if you will. 

After a few of us read these horrific stories a website has dealt with any infractions.  Due to the nature of the website, there is no reason to get sued by anyone over pictures.  No monetary compensation is made for any reason and no one involved even has any money.  I would say maybe only a couple of hundred bucks would be affordable for any infractions.  No one intentionally wanted to hurt anybody or cause a lack of revenue or what not on photos and any stupidity has been rectified and continues to be.  Valuable lesson learned with hopefully no horrific financial consequences.  We can keep our fingers crossed.

This whole situation really bothers me in retrospect and I'm not trying to malign anyone but I get this eerie feeling that this is being done in the same way the RIAA has done this.  Not really with the artist in mind because no artist gets any revenue from what the RIAA has done and in my research I'm not sure that any photographer is getting revenue out of this either.  I could be totally wrong on this of course but I haven't turned anything up yet.  This does appear to be an issue of wanting to add extra revenue to coffers and nothing more.

Whether you committed an error out of stupidity or unknowingly, to be sued into extinction over one photograph or a handful is absolutely horrible and unnecessary.  A few of us have done some looking into the stock photography thing and unless you photograph major political, celebrity, or sports events, I don't think this sort of thing is going to rake in any major bucks and the rental prices seem to be extremely low from what some of us have found. 

We seem to have found that at least 98% of those targeted run small businesses and as a result of nearly or lost that business.  I wonder if that is one of the intentions.  Small businesses while lauded in political circles seems to be on the chopping block in major business circles.  The other 2% of those targeted seem to be people with no money whatsoever and I don't think that GI or anyone else really has much hope in extracting large sums out of people who have no money so I guess collecting a couple of hundred here and a thousand there eventually winds up amounting to a lot of cash once it is all tallied up.

The Getty family has a very interesting and lurid history to be sure.  GI apparently is now owned by an equity firm that buys up a lot of businesses and perhaps it is their intention to ultimately own every photograph known to mankind and therefore will extract money from probably everyone that has ever had a website or close to anyway.  I find this whole thing to be absolutely shocking and will continue to read up on this and be a small part of this community.  If I or anyone I know should ever be on the receiving end of this either through stupidity or unwittingly, probably more so stupidity in our case, at least we know who to come to for advice or help and when I have a few bucks to spare and I may have some actually, I will make a monetary donation. 

I have been reading a lot of your comments for a few days now and I figured I may as well join the forum and offer any humble input that I can in light of reading this extremely unnerving stuff.  I guess I may well be in the minority of not having been contacted by anyone for any reason.  No one has even been asked to remove anything much less threatened due to the nature of the website in question so anything done in stupidity that has not been rectified will be. 

http://www.artisticrepresentation.com/2011/05/courtoom-sketch-artist-sues-ap-getty.html

This is something one of my associates came across.  There definitely seems to be a good amount of suing going on on either side of the fence.  I myself am not really fond of people suing each other as it seems to have become a national pastime and it seems to have gotten way out of hand.  So hello to everyone.  I look forward to reading more discussions.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Will soon receive letter from Getty
« on: January 29, 2012, 01:48:29 AM »
I've actually been reading a lot about this because a friend told me about it.  It's actually pretty scary how much money these people want.  I'm guessing that since GI is being sued quite a bit, they apparently need money for the lawsuits.  If someone does screw up and just use their photos, I would think kindly asking that person to take them off would suffice.  How huge is the market for stock photos and do photographers really make such a huge living off of this that you are indeed ruining them for the rest of their lives?  I notice they mainly go after websites that are businesses.  Do they go after websites that are not business oriented?  Having read about this for a few days it's rather hard to cough up thousands of dollars you don't have.  Especially in such a short time frame.  I suppose all the requests for $500 or $600 adds up if enough people pay that.  That family seems to have a very interesting history and being rather not nice people I guess that can extend a long ways.

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