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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: I think my SOL was up yesterday
« on: March 28, 2015, 09:56:01 AM »
Thanx guys!  I think I'll celebrate by making another donation so others can find this place.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / I think my SOL was up yesterday
« on: March 27, 2015, 02:51:34 PM »
I originally posted on here I believe April 2, 2012 that I had gotten my first letter on March 26, 2012.  So that makes me clear of this foolishness right, 3 years?

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Recent activity from getty is escalated
« on: December 09, 2013, 04:54:52 PM »
Theoretically, if it's been turned over to a collection agency and if they have damaged a person's credit as a result, couldn't one take action on defamation of credit or something like that?

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: December 17, 2012, 05:07:22 PM »
Yeah it was Uncle Timmy.  Sorry I should have been more specific.  I forgot how many shyster's Getty owns.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: December 17, 2012, 02:03:28 PM »
Hi Everyone.  It's been a while since I've posted but I have been keeping up.

Anyway, I got the shyster's letter about my alleged Getty situation.  It was NOT sent registered, just normal mail.  The new shake down is for $1400.  I'm not worried and I'm not paying.  So my question is do I respond?  I've already outlined what I would need from Getty to consider their demand and they've refused.  I offered a counter offer of $200 and again, they refused.  Since they can't/won't prove their claim obviously I'm not paying.  Without registration proving this new demand was delivered I'm inclined to ignore and not respond.

I'm really not interested in engaging with this guy until absolutely necessary, ie;when he sends a registered demand.

I haven't ignored Getty and I made it clear that without the aforementioned materials that I couldn't consider their claim.  So I see no value of engaging until I get that info. and I don't see it my responsibility to inform the shyster of what I've already said.  He belongs to them, let them tell him what has transpired.

Thoughts?

Thanx.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: June 26, 2012, 05:15:03 PM »
Thanx Buddapi.  I have read that post before.  I must have misread it.  I was taking it as waiting until they had forwarded it to McCormick, NCS, whoever, et al, then sending complaints to the AG regarding those entities.  I see now your suggesting that I do it with Getty right now and also again with those others as they become involved in the situation.  A sort of shoot everybody and collect names later kind of attitude.  I like it.

Thanx again.


@KeepFighting, thanx for the confirmation and encouragement.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: June 26, 2012, 04:00:48 PM »
As an update from my last post, re-sent them previous copy of my counter offer.  They just sent me another letter stating that they won't be sending me anymore information then what they've already sent.  They refused the counter offer and feel their offer was "fair".  They end with having noted my position and will let me know of the "next steps".  Que ominous sounding music......

At this point I don't see any reason to contact them again as they will not give me proof of their position.  I don't want to appear to ignore them but it seems fruitless to continue to engage in dialog that is obviously going nowhere.  Any thoughts?

Thanx everybody.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Response Letter to NCS
« on: June 23, 2012, 01:24:12 AM »
If you get a letter from a collection agency and ignore it, would they then report you to credit agency?  I mean they have no standing as it's not a debt, but could you bait them and then counter-sue them and getty for defamation of credit?

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That is curious.  Could this be another clue to the possibility of their going public?  If they have negative attachment to their icon's, it would make sense that they would try to distance themselves from it to getter a better IPO price.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: May 30, 2012, 12:22:50 PM »
O.K. so I posted my original situation, responded, they sent second letter offering lower amount, I responded with counter offer, and now I've got my first "escalation" letter.

It is essentially a one page demand letter similar to their first one.  They don't acknowledge receipt of the second correspondence and my counter offer.  I'm assuming their ignoring my counter offer.

So since it doesn't say anything new and they still haven't supplied me with the documentation supporting their position I was just planning to send them another copy of my second letter since there is nothing new to discuss. 

I did finally find the image in question on the copyright sight someone posted in another thread.  It's listed under a different title.  I had to find it by using the artist's name.  It's interesting that it is the only image that pulls up when I entered the artist's name.  I expected to have to wade through a bunch of images to find out if the one in question was registered.

So from what I can gather here, I can expect a series of these escalation letters and then notifications from their attorney(s)?  To these notices, I'm assuming I should respond essentially the same as I have regarding asking them for their supporting documents until they are supplied, take me to court, or stop bothering me?  Is this pretty much what will go on for the next three years or so?  You'd think these people would have better things to do with their time.

Hope you all had a Great Memorial weekend and if you haven't done so, it's never too late to thank a vet for their service.

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Ya know, someone could make a novel outta this.  Kind of in the style of John Grisham.  Use it as a vehicle to expose these people.  Get some down and out slob who's tired of the stress of actually practicing law, have them get in on the trolling cycle.  Make a lot of money, pi$$ some guy off (Matt), he decides to stand and fight, exposes all the misinformation and bullying tactics, counter sues wins case.  Someone along the way gets killed so shuts down the company, etc.

Matt you better hurry and copyright this idea.  Actually I guess it would be mine.  That's o.k.  Matt you can use it if you want.  I'll only ask for $35,000 for every 2 pages.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: May 12, 2012, 11:01:57 AM »
Thanx gang.  I plan on action towards my "web designer" but I want to focus on resolving the issue first.  I suggested that he take responsibility for his actions but he continued to deny any.  He did suggest initially that I do an internet search about the issue which is what led me to this site.  I wonder if he monitors this site at all and has put 2 & 2 together?  Probably not, but I'd be curious of his thoughts on here with peers able to evaluate his position.  Oh well.

I sent my response to Getty's second letter explaining to them why I won't pay their ransom, and offering $200 without admission of guilt to get the mess of my plate.  I suspect they won't accept it as everyone on here has indicated, but we'll see.

I got to thinking, and this idea may have already been broached, is Getty a publicly traded entity?  If so, would a letter writing campaign to shareholders maybe make a difference?  If all they are focused on is the bottom line, then getting the shareholders stirred up may have an effect.  Or, purchasing one share of voting stock, and making some noise at their shareholders meetings could also bring pressure to bear.  Just a thought.  Thanx again everybody.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: May 11, 2012, 04:51:55 PM »
Thanx for the replies.  I think I'll keep plugging away for now.  I'll formulate my response to their response and see what comes of it.  I know it's futile, but I think it at least it shows I didn't ignore their correspondence.

They stated they didn't have the copyright for the image in question, and that, that is left up to the artist.  They indicate they have a "rights managed" deal.  And they don't require their artist to prove they've registered.  Of course they refuse to supply me with proof that they have the authority to speak and act on behalf of this image.  They state; "Due to confidentiality concerns" they would not supply copies of contributor contracts "at this stage of a claim."  They of course invite me to "view image details", lol.

They state "copyright registration is not currently relevant" since their only going for "actual damages and not statutory ones".  The first veiled threat of greater threats to come I'm sure.  They justify their claim as needing greater compensation because they're "having to enlist additional resources to handle this matter".  What, they have to put a .45 stamp on an envelope telling me to stop?  Unbelievable.

They state "list prices do not apply once an infringement has been identified".  My argument is; list price is not as relevant as much as what you are able to sell something for as a possible starting point of determining how much one has been damaged.  Am I right or not?  i.e., if you can only sell something for $25 but you claim someone damaged you for $1,000,000.00 don't you have to show how the damage added up to $999,975.00?  So the history of the sale price would be significant wouldn't it, regardless of the "list price"?

I've got till May 15th to send the money.  Don't think so.

My response is essentially going to be; since they didn't prove to me they have this authority to make this claim, I'm going to have to refuse their offer.  I mean really, for all I know, Mr. Tony Stone could knock on my door tomorrow and say the exact same thing and claim no one but he had the authority to represent this image and that I've just been duped, so pay up.

Oh yeah, should I include a counteroffer just to show that I made the effort?

Thanx.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: May 11, 2012, 02:21:26 PM »
Got their response to my response.  I'm taking it (from my reading) that it's about 50-50 about continuing to dialog with these guys?  If for no other reason than to show I didn't ignore it and would put me in a little better position on the chance that this did get to a courtroom situation?  I guess I'm looking for confirmation (They've generously lowered their offer to $700).

The other thing I wanted to know is, can I jump on Mr. Michelin's defense letter program in the middle of all this if I get tired of dealing with it?  Right now I don't mind batting the snail mail back and forth (again, thanks for the continued confidence boost this site gives).  But I could see where this could get tiresome as time goes on and may just decide I don't have the time to deal with it anymore.

Thanx again gang, you guys are great.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Story
« on: April 13, 2012, 06:38:11 PM »
Thanx all.  I sent my letter on the 4th, which by my calculation was the day before the "deadline".  Looked up the certified tracking and it was delivered on the 11th.  Gotta love snail mail.  I didn't expect it to get there the next day but I didn't expect a week either.  Oh well.  Now we wait.  I'll let ya know what I hear, if anything.  Thanx again.

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