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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My "Extortion" Letter Experience (Part 2)
« on: October 10, 2011, 03:52:21 PM »
I appreciate the reply.  My question is whether, if you do make an offer, you can stipulate that you are not addressing the question of guilt.  I wonder if someone could address this.

Thanks for the advice on the letter.  Perhaps the site needs to be more specific about the letter.  Just to get right down to it: are there statistics available that show that paying $195 for a letter will "be the end of it"?  Do I set up an attorney-client relationship which means that I am going to have my attorney speak for me in any future procedures?  On the site there is a statement that the attorney will attend to other litigation etc. as a first priority (understandable), which leaves the question of when this letter is sent a big vague.

Is there anyone out there who has had a letter sent? What's your experience?

I would love to see an organized list of cases, ie. code name of party, which image company, action, response, etc. etc. right through the history to start to get a sense of the breadth of this problem.

Thanks again!!


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Getty Images Letter Forum / My "Extortion" Letter Experience (Part 2)
« on: October 10, 2011, 01:50:55 PM »
(For background info please see my October 1, 2011 post "My "Extortion" Letter Experience (so far))

I have received a second attorney letter asking for a "reasonable settlement" of the alleged one image use of a SuperStock image for which they are asking $2200.  The image is copyright, was up for perhaps a year, was taken off immediately... I have no knowledge of where my web designer may have gotten it.  My web designer shocked my by admitting absolutely no responsibility for the matter and I am looking for another designer.

I am willing to offer them $500 to settle the matter.  Can I make this offer contingent on me not admitting guilt in the matter? What do you think?

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My "Extortion" Letter Experience (so far)
« on: October 01, 2011, 08:11:03 PM »
Thank you so much your helpful reply!!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / My "Extortion" Letter Experience (so far)
« on: October 01, 2011, 09:13:18 AM »
I hope that other readers of this forum will find these comments helpful, or interesting:

1. I am a busy professional who hired a web design company to put up my site. I more or less designed the site and worked with them, and they put up the images.

I received a Superstock letter for a single image on the site, which I immediately removed.  Superstock sent a screen shot, a link to the website showing the image was not free and even a printed catalog that showed the image.  This was about a month ago. I spoke to my web designer who said that they did not use illegal images, that because they use "thousands of images" they did not know where that image may have come from, they spoke of "extortion", "trolls" etc. and said they would "take care of it". My initial suggestion to the web designer was that they contact Superstock, tell them they buy many images and negotiate a settlement. My situation has now advanced to the second stage where I have received an attorney's letter saying I have 15 days to pay $2200 for the image or they would sue.  Basically my web designer ignored my phone calls and emails regarding this matter until I finally had a phone consult with them yesterday. Essentially the designer said it was my problem, they no longer were connected with the site they put up and their contract stipulated they were not responsible for content.

I felt they were responsible. I don't know how they came upon the image and apparently either do they. The web designer was quite arrogant, "well, its your problem, not ours" and I said I was going to look for another web designer.

I have only read 10 pages of forum posts so I don't know if (or how many times) this has been brought up, but I think it is one issue that needs to be addressed.

Web designers should be held responsible for images they post, they should to catalog each image they use on the site and provide a record for the client. When I hire my next designer, I am going to read the contract carefully and I am going to make certain there is a clause regarding images.

2. I think the article which encourages people like me to take their own images is an excellent one and it has inspired me to try to go through my site and eliminate as many stock images as I can and replace them with images I create myself.

3. I have often used ISTOCK. I did not realize this was a Getty company, which is discouraging. I agree with one poster that clients need to petition ISTOCK and other companies to provide a receipt that a specific, identified image has been purchased for use. I don't know how you go about getting a company to change policies, but perhaps someone has a suggestion.

4. I am going to sign the WHITE HOUSE PETITION mentioned in the forum. This, it seems to me, must be even more clearly emphasized on your site. It makes sense, if you are an innocent user of an image, you should be able to remove the image without penalty. It seems logical that trolling companies are finding an image, waiting and then send "extortion" letters. At the very least, it is a way to bring this matter into public discussion. Does anyone know a New York Times journalist? It seems this would be a juicy subject.

5. I am in favor of copyright laws. My second life is as an artist. If I found that someone was using an image of mine commercially, I would be upset. What is clear from my experience and this site is that it is the manner in which companies such as Superstock are going about defending their copyright that is the problem.

6. Somehow all these issues need to be organized into a list, a set of principles or demands or organizing principles, that would result in legislation to bring order to the whole issue of images on the web.

7. Finally, I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts because it helps to reduce the stress that comes with this issue. In my case, I put up a website, I go about my professional life, and suddenly I'm sucked into the issue that is not my area of expertise, the company that provided the services associated with the issue abandon me, I am receiving letters and documents asking me for over $2000 and threatening me with attorney's fees for thousands of dollars more.
As many of us feel, I don't need this.

8. As I go through the posts, I notice there is controversy regarding sending out letters, etc. Perhaps I might suggest that this be organized differently. Instead of the idea of one attorney with one email address receiving multiple requests, couldn't a structure be created which would organize requests in some way with a legal assistant handling the letters? I would pay for a letter, but the process seems to be a murky area in what is really a very informative, although a little emotional,site.

Thanks.

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