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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Received letters from CEG

« on: October 19, 2012, 02:14:12 PM »

Plain and simple if they are not found in a copyright search, they are not registered, most trolls do not supply a registration number, because there is none. This is usually the first request made, if you decide to engage them, they are demanding money sdo you need to demand proof of valid registration, if they fail to supply this, the image is probably not registered. Getty never supplies this. I have offered to help you search via private email, but you need to help me, help you, give us the photographers name and link us to the image from one of the other sites you have seen it on.. You have no obligation to protect the photographer or the image..continuing to do so leaves us without a means to help you.

a screen shot of the image on your site and a simple URL means nothing...it does not prove infringement..

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Legal Controversies Forum / Re: Sane Approach to Copyrights

« on: October 19, 2012, 10:44:55 AM »

Unfortunatley, this will have zero effect on stock images, and deals exclusively with P2P file sharing and bit torrent sites, and the main problem it will run into is still the fact that it all revolves around IP addresses.. I see that if a person gets a notice they can pay a $35.00 to have the case reviewed..this will make for a lot of unhappy people. Right this minute I can access 3 unsecured networks on my street alone, if I were to use their unsecured network to download music from a p2p site, do you think they would want to pay the 35 bucks, knowing full well they didn't do anything wrong?? I doubt it..Perhaps a step in the right direction, but a long way to go IMHO..

The stock image house will continue to send out their extortion letters, and I foresee them sending even more, as the world of traditional publishing slowly goes down the drain.. Just yesterday it was announced Newsweek will cease all print publications in 2013, there are loads of images in this publication that are from Getty and rights managed, and don't forget with RM images the cost is dictated by the usage, Getty will be taking a large hit in this regard...hence more letters, they have to make money somehow...

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copyright Services International is back again

« on: October 19, 2012, 07:22:31 AM »

and the Willard Frank Clay image registration:

Type of Work:    Visual Material
Registration Number / Date:    VA0001810778 / 2012-04-09
Application Title:    2010 Scenic Landscapes by Willard Frank Clay.
Title:    2010 Scenic Landscapes by Willard Frank Clay.
Description:    Electronic file (eService)
Copyright Claimant:    Willard Frank Clay, 1941- . Address: 325 East 6th Avenue, Naperville, IL, 60563, United States.
Date of Creation:    2010
Date of Publication:    2010-04-05
Nation of First Publication:    United States
Authorship on Application:    Willard Frank Clay, 1941- ; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: photograph(s)
Alternative Title on Application:    Group Registration - 3 Photos Pub. April 5, 2010 through Aug. 20, 2010
Rights and Permissions:    Willard Frank Clay, Willard Clay Photography, Inc., 325 East 6th Avenue, Naperville, IL, 60563, United States, (815) 325-0314, (630) 355-3010, [email protected]
Copyright Note:    Regarding publication: Range of dates: April 5, 2010 - August 20, 2010
Contents:    43SM-561.jpg, April 5, 2010; 50DC-135.jpg, May 29, 2010; 23MI-161.jpg, Aug. 20, 2010;.
Names:    Clay, Willard Frank, 1941-

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copyright Services International is back again

« on: October 19, 2012, 07:13:29 AM »

Here is the registration for the Dennis Flaherty image.

Type of Work:    Visual Material
Registration Number / Date:    VA0001791662 / 2011-09-15
Application Title:    Feb 2010.
Title:    Feb 2010.
Description:    electronic file ( e service)
Copyright Claimant:    Dennis Flaherty. Address: PO Box 334, Bishop, CA, 93515.
Date of Creation:    2009
Date of Publication:    2010-02-10
Nation of First Publication:    United States
Authorship on Application:    Dennis Flaherty; Domicile: United States; Citizenship: United States. Authorship: photograph(s)
Rights and Permissions:    [email protected]
Contents:    AR0106 -- CZ0091 -- CZ2988 -- PR3866 -- LT0455 -- PR0876 -- GR0191.
Names:    Flaherty, Dennis

Looks like several images were registered at the same time by the looks of the "contents" section above, I wonder if they all have the title of Feb.2010 as this could bean issue rendering this registration useless

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copyright Services International is back again

« on: October 19, 2012, 06:49:09 AM »

I guess you all figured I might have something to add here...While Glen Carner does earn a little respect from me, for at the very least making a move in the right direction in terms of the monies "requested", I still have an issue with his "employees" ie "clerks", ie "phishers" trying to collect using email and PayPal??

Both totally unprofesional...But I know what Glen would say to this... "This helps keep our cost down so we can offer a "reduced" amount for the"retroactive license" or something along those lies...

The other issue I have with this retroactive license is, how is Copyright Services International determining the lenght of the supposed "unauthorized use"..Just because a clerk with a keyboard type something doesn't always make it fact..

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Alaska Stock - Chapter 11 Bankruptcy

« on: October 18, 2012, 01:21:03 PM »

I hereby sentence you to 50 lashings! Greg brings up a good point..we're all human, and mistakes are bound to happen, but at least we take responsibility , if and when something lie this happens which is not often.

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Legal Controversies Forum / Image copyright trolling getting more national attention along with P2p Cases

« on: October 18, 2012, 12:10:04 PM »

BuzzFeed lawsuit over celeb snaps raises copyright questions.

A photo agency is demanding $1.3 million from BuzzFeed after the viral news site published photos of singer Katy Perry and actress Kathy Griffin. The case comes at a time when online media is increasingly image-based, and raises questions about whether current copyright law is still working.

First, the facts. Florida-based Mavrix Photo filed a complaint in LA this week that claims BuzzFeed deliberately scraped the celebrity images as part of an effort to drive traffic to the site. It cited nine photos, including Perry on a rooftop (see right) and Griffin dancing topless (NSFW, obviously).

Mavrix appears to be in the business of copyright trolling

http://gigaom.com/2012/10/17/buzzfeed-lawsuit-over-celeb-snaps-raises-copyright-questions/

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: How many have been sued for use of one pic? another one

« on: October 18, 2012, 09:32:34 AM »

Hi Everybody,

Scott, you are not the only one. I have also been sued in Canada for one image only and naturally a mistake like so many of us. What I was wondering:   Who decides what penalty we have to pay? Their charges out outrageous to say the least.
Thanks everybody for all of the info. Will help me enormously:)

Silvia

Silvia, have you actually been sued??? Have you been properly served official court documents stating such?? Or did you just receive a demand letter? There is a huge difference, it's important that when we post we try to be as accurate as possible. To answer your question greatly depends on my questions..are you in fact being sued??

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Hawaiian Art Network LLC v. The Scott LLC et al

« on: October 17, 2012, 09:14:33 PM »

I think you are right on the money with this theory... I just pulled up both cases.

HAN filed suit against The Scott on 4/19/12 and Aloha hit HAN with a counter suit on 5/19/12

My theory is that Glen Carner filed this with the intention of following through or using it to extract payment but very shortly after filing Aloha hit Glenn with their countersuit which caused him to divert his time, attention and resources to that. It would be interesting to see the date when filed the suit and compare that to the date when Aloha filed their countersuit. I am sure that the countersuit rattled him pretty good and as I said before no one wants to fight a battle on two fronts if you can avoid it.

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Righthaven Lawsuits Forum / Righthaven agrees to turn hard drives over to creditor

« on: October 17, 2012, 07:42:05 AM »

as Vegas copyright company Righthaven LLC appears eager to comply with the latest court order entered against it Tuesday, as noncompliance could cost its CEO a fine of $500 per day.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen in Las Vegas, ruling during a hearing, ordered Righthaven to turn over to a creditor hard drives from its computers so the creditor could determine if Righthaven has any assets that can be liquidated for the benefit of Righthaven’s creditors.

She gave Righthaven two weeks to surrender the drives or mirror images of them and said noncompliance would result in a daily sanction of $500 against the company and its CEO.

After the hearing, Righthaven CEO and Las Vegas attorney Steven Gibson fired off a letter to Righthaven’s attorney, Shawn Mangano, ordering him to comply with the directive.

“You are hereby instructed to follow without any departure whatsoever every aspect of the order made today in the case, just as you have been instructed to follow every previous order of every court,” Gibson wrote in the letter.

It appeared that Gibson sent the letter, with a copy to the judge, as an insurance policy, as Mangano had earlier told Leen he’d be happy to arrange the turnover of the drives to the creditor.

http://www.vegasinc.com/news/2012/oct/16/facing-500-daily-fine-righthaven-agrees-turn-hard-/

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Hawaiian Art Network LLC v. The Scott LLC et al

« on: October 17, 2012, 06:13:58 AM »

Apparently Hawaiian Art Network filed the suit, paid the 350.00 filing fee, but never served the other party, hence the other party never knew they were going to  get sued (except for the fact that I spoke with them and alerted them.) Idon't think a counter-suit would be an option...basically Glen Carner donated 350.00 to the court system and paid his attorneys to file the papers.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Hawaiian Art Network LLC v. The Scott LLC et al

« on: October 16, 2012, 05:47:04 PM »

This case concerning Glen Carner, Hawaiian Art Network and Photographer Vincent K. Tylor has been closed...

This action commenced on April 19, 2012. No proof of service has been filed with the Court, and no Defendants have appeared in this case. Plaintiff is hereby ORDERED TO SHOW CAUSE why Defendants have not been timely served. Plaintiff has 7 days to comply with this order; or if Defendants have been served, Plaintiff has 7 days to file the proofs of service. Failure to respond will result in dismissal of this action. (lc) (Entered: 09/27/2012)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Copyright Enforcement Group aka CEG TEK International

« on: October 16, 2012, 05:40:11 PM »

Not entirely new to ELI, but this is I think the second time we have heard of this "group", they also have ties to Glen Carner and hawaiian Art network in a round-about way. I am still awaiting more info from the newest letter recipient so I can do a more thorough job, but heres a few nuggets to feed on in the meantime.

Corporate Office
CEG TEK International
8484 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 220
Beverly Hills, California 90211
United States of America

A quote from their website...keep in mind these are supposedly people that are up on all things copyright and law..

"Q  I was only displaying the file(s) in question, I was not hosting the file(s).
A  Unfortunately, this does not absolve your liability. Among the exclusive rights of a copyright owner that are protected by the Copyright Act is the right to display the copyrighted work publicly.  Content does not have to be hosted on your site and/or server for an infringement to occur.  So, when, without a valid license from the rights owner, you displayed the content of the file(s) on your website, copyright infringement is at issue. To better protect yourself in the future we suggest visiting our Education & Resources page, and you should consult with your own attorney."

Perfect10 v. Google states differently...linking to an image is NOT considered an infringement.

apparently they don't understand that the "copy" in copyright has a meaning...a link is not a "COPY"..

another quote:
"Q  How do I know that you are legally authorized act on behalf of the copyright owner?
A  In all CEG notices we declare under penalty of perjury that we are legally authorized by the copyright owner(s) to act on their behalf. If you wish to receive additional information proving that we are legally authorized to act on behalf of the copyright owner(s) please contact us.

huh?? I could be wrong here, but isn't this along the lines of those little confidentiality disclaimers they like to add at the end of emails?....yes please contact them, thats exactly what they are hoping for...

Copyright Enforcement Group has an outstanding list of partners, and they all have outstanding websites... Trust me i will be researching everyone of these "law firms" in due time..

Law Offices of Ira M. Siegel - http://www.irasiegellaw.com/

Ira Siegel is one of the most sinister and cynical figures on the copyright trolling arena. He participates in setting up shameless honeypot schemes to profit from alleged copyright infringement and his lawsuits list thousands of Does.
http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com/tag/ira-siegel/

He is very well known in the porn circles at didtrolldie.com and fightcopyrighttrolls.com...we all know the p2p trolls have been taking a major ass beating lately, so maybe Ira Siegel is looking for new avenues of revenue??
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The Copyright Law Group, PLLC - http://www.copyrightdefenselawyer.com/
The Carroll Law Firm PLC - http://www.carrolllawfirm.com/
The Law Offices of Marvin Gable - http://marvincable.com/
Matlock Law Group - http://www.matlocklawgroup.com/

Matlock Law group may sound familiar, and they should! They have filed 2 suits on behalf of Hawaiian Art Network / Glen Carner the first suits filed on the mainland.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Received letters from CEG

« on: October 16, 2012, 05:11:01 PM »

they are money hungry leaches! and well known in the world of copyright trolling. I will be starting a new thread in the Getty Forum dedicated to CEG TEK International and copyright troll Ira Siegel

They just sent me three more for some files that were deleted and for some reason popped back up again.  I validated multiple times that all the files had been removed including the html page itself.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Trollog Defined

« on: October 16, 2012, 12:11:15 PM »

are you egging me on here??

Nicely done Ryan!

I am sure that BuddhaPi has some new words he would like to make a permanent part of the urban dictionary that relate to copyright Trolls.