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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 08:45:19 PM »

Every time I hear EVNL's story it makes me want to pound "Sand"...... just for starters.

My understanding is that Brandon Sand no longer works for HAN. Ok...that is a "good" thing. I have to wonder however HOW MANY OTHER PEOPLE had this done to them who did not come forward like EVNL? HOW MANY OTHERS PAID due to this kind of fear?

Without addressing the "fear factor" one has to think these stock companies / trolls are well aware that a certain number of people will roll over and pay and they will have to write off a certain percentage, which is probably figured into the "demand amount".. I have yet to see an image that's worth more than the 10 bucks as they are offered on Hawaiian Art Networks site, and even that's a stretch.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: What is Glen Carner's Official Position on Vincent K. Tylor?

« on: June 06, 2012, 07:55:59 PM »

http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/post/Popcorn_02_Stephen_Colbert.gif

Nice I Like this one, but I'm no Jackson fan by any means

http://www.gifsoup.com/view/179341/mj-thriller-popcorn-o.gif

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 06:03:18 PM »

EVNL, on your case, were you made aware that the web designer who created your site was responsible and liable (to you directly, not the agency/photographer) for their actions?   Maybe the web designer was unresponsive, but any settlement should have been put squarely on their shoulders.

Yeah Glen I'd like to see you put this responsibility squarely on the shoulders of some Pakistani / Indian  development firm that works for 5.00 US per hour, and could give a shit about US Copyright law...good luck with that! I'm not saying this was the case with EVNL, but a good amount of these cases are through outsourced developers, or firms that no longer exist, not to mention web developers that are unwilling to step up to the plate. I understand this is just another attempt to make you and your company Copyright Services International, LLC, look like prince charming, but it's not going to fly..Besides if you any sort of "business man" you would have this information in your files, as it would be your responsibility to have your "lawyers" communicate this with you..

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: ELI Video Updates (June 2012) with Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi)

« on: June 06, 2012, 05:54:52 PM »

Glen we always try to be as accurate and honest as possible. You should watch it, or at least listen to it as I have a face for radio for the most part.

This was too funny.  Hopefully they were accurate and honest about HAN?  I didn't have the stomach to watch the official versions...

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 04:53:04 PM »

This will be my last reply to this thread, maybe this will do it for you..if not oh well

I hired Oscar
He drafted my letter
He mail said letter to Getty
I heard from Oscar once more than 2 years after said letter was drafted and sent to Getty
Getty offered a "reduced" settlement
I declined
Oscar notified Getty of this.
3 yrs came case closed

Will they sue YOU, nobody can tell you this, will they contact oscar more than once NO ONE KNOWS!

what you can expect:

1. A letter written on your behalf from your attorney.
2. This letter being sent to Getty Images ( or whomever it is)
3.  A second reply to Getty if needed.

End of story..I'm done, good luck.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: ELI Video Updates (June 2012) with Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi)

« on: June 06, 2012, 03:28:42 PM »

As a special bonus, Buddhapi and I share an ELI Bloopers clip. Have fun at OUR expense.

Just be to clear, this was all his doing!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 03:25:03 PM »

p.s. I should add that I've noted the humor inherent in Oscar's posting of the defense directed at Mr Carner/H.A.N.
Especially since Mr Carner asked for an example to be posted.  A case of be careful what you wish for.

S.G.

Now why didn't I catch that?! I don';t think this is Oscar's first HAN letter responce, and I still find it hard to think, that Glens "attorney" would not have shared the responses that came in the past.. 

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 02:23:09 PM »

If Matthew thinks this post should be deleted, by all means, I'm tough and will not be offended...but I'm going to say my piece anyway, like it or leave it..

@MOPE based on you posts, question and responses, it would appear to me you may be better off just getting outside counsel and paying full price, this is a SIMPLE letter program, designed to get Getty off your back and give you peace of mind..apparently you are wanting much more...

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 01:28:53 PM »

If the program did not work, do you think we would even be here offering it? This is not about making money, if that were the case Oscar would be charing his normal $400.00-$500.00 per hour fee.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 01:25:17 PM »

I'm jumping in here, but need to preface that I did not read either of your posts in their entirety..

Heres the deal as simply as I can put it:

1. Hire Oscar to draft your letter and chances are good the issue will go away.
2. get educated and do the letter merry go around yourself ( there will be alot more going back and forth as they know you are no lawyer with 25+ years experience)
3. Hire your own lawyer and see if he gives you these statistics you so badly want..
4. pay them and be done with it. ( and score another win for them, so they can afford more paper and stamps)

at the end of the day their is NO guarantee with any method you chose except number 4.

you're really over complicating this IMHO

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: passing time...

« on: June 05, 2012, 08:03:18 PM »

If I may ask, whom are you dealing with Getty? or someone else?

Yep, we got the third letter now warning us of further legal action...they never mention that we did respond before the first demand due date.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 05, 2012, 07:44:07 PM »

Truly a work of art! I'd like to be a fly on the wall when Conrad & Scherer read this! I wonder if they even know about the HAN / APS case that is pending..
Thanks Oscar!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Proof that Ass-Hats Live on Both Sides of the Fence!

« on: June 05, 2012, 06:45:40 PM »

$75 for a commercial display fee with no extortionate markup?  Wow.  If image infringement requests were even double that amount, most of the ELI audience would pay it and be done with.

By NOT paying that $75 and the admin stupidly advertised that fact, the got themselves way more than $75 of negatively publicity. LOL.

Even I would be forced to tell people to pay if they had reasonable proof they owned the image.

Obviously, a very cheap band.

And not very smart in the PR department either!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Proof that Ass-Hats Live on Both Sides of the Fence!

« on: June 05, 2012, 06:35:12 PM »

In this story a photographer doesn't cross any lines or try to extort any money from anyone, the ass-hats in this case were the band members..


"Band Publicly Refuses to Pay Photog, Leads to Facebook Firestorm"

The story goes something like this: When concert photographer Dan DeSlover discovered that his photo of Alter Bridge guitarist Mark Tremonti was being used on the band’s Facebook page to advertise Tremonti’s solo project, he respectfully asked to be paid $75 (his commercial use fee). The management refused, apologized, and removed the photo. Ideally this is where the story would end.

Unfortunately, after the photo was removed, the admin of the band’s Facebook posted the following status update:

Sorry we had to take down the picture of Mark. Got an email from the photographer wanting to charge us $75.00 to display it. Needless to say, we declined…

read more...

http://www.petapixel.com/2012/06/03/band-publicly-refuses-to-pay-photog-leads-to-commenting-firestorm/

ADDED BY MATTHEW CHAN:
http://www.facebook.com/MusicPhotographers

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 05, 2012, 02:19:20 PM »

Chill out kids!
Lets try to keep our witty barbs pointed in the right direction!

I think it's safe to say we all love Glen Carner being here.