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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Received spam from Getty Images
« on: April 03, 2013, 11:53:03 PM »
Keep us posted!

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Lucia - yes that law only applies to recording public officials from a public street. But please remember that the person being recorded also has to be in a one-party state - not just the person doing the recording. So unless you can verify where the person is when you are talking to hem and then verify  that their location is with in a one-party state, you can record the conversation. If it is particularly strong, threatening and over-the-top you 'd probably do better by sending it to the local Attorney general's office rather than  posting it on ELI. Here's a link to the Wiki page that covers the subject and lists two party states:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« on: April 03, 2013, 11:46:29 PM »
Kyle and starman - stinger's response is on the money.   It is highly unlikely they will sue you.  Starman is also correct in that one of the main reasons Getty doesn't sue is that since their images are not registered at the time of the infringement, they cannot recoup their legal fees (though starman - I find your figures are way high even by NY standards). Both of you should look into the letter defense program offered on this site which stops all the noise for $195. - once they receive a letter from me they cannot contact you directly any further. 

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You really should respond to the person who wrote your letter - McCormack legally represents Getty if he wrote you and all Getty will do is forward your letter to him once they get it and check their computer and see that it is assigned to him. Read through the forums, look at the videos and get educated. Then fear no one! If you need more help there's lots of that on the site as well. 

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Probable Picscout or Image scanner
« on: March 29, 2013, 10:45:45 PM »
Great info to look out for from the ELI Queen of Tech! Thanks!

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Take a look at some of the videos and forum posts that discuss the Getty claim in general. 

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Jerry - Great advice once again. Peggy - you may want to consider a quick logo re-design and replacement.  I would not overly engage Getty as Jerry said its unlikely they will sue.

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Legal Controversies Forum / Speech Spoken Here
« on: March 26, 2013, 10:09:55 PM »
 There recently has been a lot of positive interaction with the internet community about the ELI site including a recent EFF post about the Georgia Court decision in the Linda Ellis case.  As the issue of copyright trolling gets more and more attention, folks have been coming to ELI and reading and viewing the huge amount of content on here. But what makes ELI unique are the FORUMS. ELI is the only site I have heard of that allows folks to come and comment anonymously or in the open about their experiences with trolls. Yes most blogs allow comments, but the ELI message board is not limited to what Matt and I want to talk about - many community members bring their own topics for discussion and the discussions often expand well beyond the initial post subject. It's a website whose predominant purpose is speech. Yes Matt and I (separately) do get hired for assistance by some who come to the site. But if money were the primary motivator of the site, we would hide all the valuable content behind a pay wall or sell ad space. Instead, the thousands of folks who come to ELI for the first time each month are able to read past conversations, join existing ones or start new ones.  It allows for a vibrant, free-wheeling exchange of ideas which is precisely why it is popular and has created a loyal group of supporters and followers. Yes sometimes posts focus on humor, parody and harsh opinion against copyright trollers and their henchmen. As EFF put it so well tonight "As many copyright trolls have found, their tactics are often reviled and frequently criticized."   But since 2008, ELI has become the leading resource on the net for information about Getty Images and other copycat copyright trollers in the digital image industry and beyond. It is the content and conversation on the site that irritates those who troll. It is the content and conversation  that keeps me and many others coming back several times each week to read new posts or let everyone know about a new trolling issue or a great new article on fightcopyrighttrolls.com or just to put our two cents in on a topic that interest us. That's what ELI is about at its core. Information. Expression of Ideas. Communal Conversation. Speech.   

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 There recently has been a lot of positive interaction with the internet community about the ELI site including a recent EFF post about the Georgia Court decision in the Linda Ellis case.  As the issue of copyright trolling gets more and more attention, folks have been coming to ELI and reading and viewing the huge amount of content on here. But what makes ELI unique are the FORUMS. ELI is the only site I have heard of that allows folks to come and comment anonymously or in the open about their experiences with trolls. Yes most blogs allow comments, but the ELI message board is not limited to what Matt and I want to talk about - many community members bring their own topics for discussion and the discussions often expand well beyond the initial post subject. It's a website whose predominant purpose is speech. Yes Matt and I (separately) do get hired for assistance by some who come to the site. But if money were the primary motivator of the site, we would hide all the valuable content behind a pay wall or sell ad space. Instead, the thousands of folks who come to ELI for the first time each month are able to read past conversations, join existing ones or start new ones.  It allows for a vibrant, free-wheeling exchange of ideas which is precisely why it is popular and has created a loyal group of supporters and followers. Yes sometimes posts focus on humor, parody and harsh opinion against copyright trollers and their henchmen. As EFF put it so well tonight "As many copyright trolls have found, their tactics are often reviled and frequently criticized."   But since 2008, ELI has become the leading resource on the net for information about Getty Images and other copycat copyright trollers in the digital image industry and beyond. It is the content and conversation on the site that irritates those who troll. It is the content and conversation  that keeps me and many others coming back several times each week to read new posts or let everyone know about a new trolling issue or a great new article on fightcopyrighttrolls.com or just to put our two cents in on a topic that interest us. That's what ELI is about at its core. Information. Expression of Ideas. Communal Conversation. Speech.   

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Speech Spoken Here
« on: March 26, 2013, 10:08:56 PM »
 There recently has been a lot of positive interaction with the internet community about the ELI site including a recent EFF post about the Georgia Court decision in the Linda Ellis case.  As the issue of copyright trolling gets more and more attention, folks have been coming to ELI and reading and viewing the huge amount of content on here. But what makes ELI unique are the FORUMS. ELI is the only site I have heard of that allows folks to come and comment anonymously or in the open about their experiences with trolls. Yes most blogs allow comments, but the ELI message board is not limited to what Matt and I want to talk about - many community members bring their own topics for discussion and the discussions often expand well beyond the initial post subject. It's a website whose predominant purpose is speech. Yes Matt and I (separately) do get hired for assistance by some who come to the site. But if money were the primary motivator of the site, we would hide all the valuable content behind a pay wall or sell ad space. Instead, the thousands of folks who come to ELI for the first time each month are able to read past conversations, join existing ones or start new ones.  It allows for a vibrant, free-wheeling exchange of ideas which is precisely why it is popular and has created a loyal group of supporters and followers. Yes sometimes posts focus on humor, parody and harsh opinion against copyright trollers and their henchmen. As EFF put it so well tonight "As many copyright trolls have found, their tactics are often reviled and frequently criticized."   But since 2008, ELI has become the leading resource on the net for information about Getty Images and other copycat copyright trollers in the digital image industry and beyond. It is the content and conversation on the site that irritates those who troll. It is the content and conversation  that keeps me and many others coming back several times each week to read new posts or let everyone know about a new trolling issue or a great new article on fightcopyrighttrolls.com or just to put our two cents in on a topic that interest us. That's what ELI is about at its core. Information. Expression of Ideas. Communal Conversation. Speech.     

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Many web developers hire us for the letter program because it stops their clients receiving further communication from Getty.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Recieved Letter from getty
« on: March 25, 2013, 04:29:08 PM »
Do not try to get them to submit all the proof you desire, they will never do so nor will they likely accept $200 though it is smart of you to offer that.I would not engage them very much more than you already have.  Please let me know if you want us to intercede with a letter 

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Legal Controversies Forum / Re: Victory for College Students
« on: March 23, 2013, 12:43:26 PM »
Lucia - it shows the world of litigation and lawyering. 33 pages (and hundreds of thousands of dollars) over the meaning of the five words "lawfully created under the Act" with many focusing on the  word "under" 

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I agree with Jerry I would not overly engage this person any further. I would like to see the letter though

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Got 3rd Getty Letter Now I'm Not Sure
« on: March 23, 2013, 12:32:09 PM »
It's just putting lipstick on a pig.  Nothing about the claim has changed and the value of any alleged infringement has not gone up. As Robert states they cannot "put you into collection" and they cannot damage your credit rating or credit report as this is a claim and not a debt. Doing so would violate the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act and NCS knows this so it will not happen.

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