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I find your post interesting regarding the fact that you received a letter from Sanders Law on behalf of RM Media Ltd. (aka Nick Youngson), owner of his gotcha, honeypot websites.

It tells me he is spreading his butter between at least two operations: Higbee and Sanders Law.

Regarding the lawsuit situation, most cases have no lawsuits. And the very few that do end up in settlements. They rarely go all the way.

In the case of RM Media Ltd. there was one recent lawsuit but it was unusual because it was directed a a marijuana company that appeared to NOT have removed the image which triggered a willful infringement accusation. I also suspect that it was a strategic move by Higbee to get a case on record so it would stop people like me from telling the world that "Nick Youngson/RM Media Lt. has never files lawsuits."

Incidentally, that lawsuit settled quickly and quietly.

Now let me give you some bad news, I do think there is a higher risk of negative consequence for letter victims based in California with a traditional brick-and-mortar business.  I consider many real estate brokerages to fall into that higher-risk category.

People don't like to hear this but sometimes you SHOULD negotiate a settlement. There are a variety of reasons beyond the possibility of a lawsuit. Many people cannot cope with the stress and uncertainty. Victims want to have it both ways but they can't. They want to eliminate the uncertainty and possibility of a lawsuit but also NOT pay. That is nearly impossible.

Then I hear from people that they are willing to pay a few hundred dollars to settle the matter. While it is certainly possible because to settle a Higbee claim for as little as $300, it is very unusual and requires the victim to fight very hard to convince them to go down that low. (I know people are going to zero in on what I just said and MISINTERPRET that "Higbee claims can be settled for $300". It is RARE, HARD FOUGHT and a lot of circumstantial information has to be disclosed. It is the rare person who is able to have the emotional stamina and determination to navigate this.  Not because it is "difficult" but simply because many folks don't really understand the subtleties and factors that go into taking the wind out of pursuing larger amounts.  There are many variables that enter the equation. And yes, it does require you (or someone representing you) to actually communicate with them to negotiate and settle the matter.

You will be hearing from them and if you are a real estate brokerage firm in California, they will be especially persistent and interested in pursuing your case.

I am an independent contractor with a brokerage in California. We received an email from Lynn Burke of Sanders Law, to our general company email regarding a picture I used in a blog post back in April 2017. I am always very careful to purchase pictures or use ones offered for free. This one was offered for free. I did not know or understand the "attribution" clause, that i recently read on their site. The "client" of Sanders Law is RM media (have seen them mentioned in your conversations). I was ignorant and made the mistake of emailing them, not fully understanding the concept of trolling. They responded and asked for $2,200 in damages by today and claimed "commercial use" of the free picture costs $259.00. Not sure what the definition is of commercial use. My actions have been: I first added the attribute and then a few days later just deleted the picture from the blog post. My question is what is the reality that they will file a lawsuit against me? and possibly my broker? What, if any should my next response be? I am assuming since I didn't comply with their deadline and assumption that I am in the wrong I will be hearing from them again. Any help or direction is greatly appreciated. Thank you

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It has been stated often.

Most cases never go to court. And those few that end up in court, most get settled.

That is a simplistic nugget of information.

I suggest you do lots more reading to get familiar with the general patterns of Higbee (and other) copyright extortion practices and behavior.

Did you actually go to court?

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Higbee has a client in the UK?  Hmm..... let me take a stab at who this might be.

Could it be Nick Youngson of RM Media Ltd?

The response I got (from one of Higbee's assistants) was that their client refused my offer and told me to either pay the full $3000 or get a lawyer.  His client is in the UK.   

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AliAm,

Your posting is extremely vague. I assume your situation is dealing with a Higbee-originated demand letter. But other than the 4 images and $16K, very few understand what you are saying.

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The problem with a lot of letter victims is that they are in a battle of "trying to convince" the other but really don't understand you will almost NEVER "convince" them in that they will acknowledge or state the weakness of their assertions.

People in adversarial positions will rarely acknowledge the weakness of their position even if it has been presented to them. BECAUSE there is NO BENEFIT to do so. Hence, despite their weak position of trying to claim infringement on thumbnail images from YouTube videos (which is the context), they will still make their weak argument.

As I tell people, you don't have to have a lawyer to learn to stand your ground. People seem to think that you can stop someone from filing a lawsuit against you. Dumb lawsuits happen all the time but it doesn't mean it goes anywhere. Yes, it is inconvenient but it isn't a catastrophic event.

This is why people need to get educated and get involved here to get your head on straight.  Otherwise, be prepared to be suckered out of your money.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: PicRights.com
« on: January 15, 2018, 06:04:16 PM »
The copyright registration database is just plain shit and outdated. No one can easily check anything.  People may have copyright registration certifications but there is no easy way of verifying them.  It is a problem that the US Copyright Office needs to fix.

Right now as I see it, Picrights and Stockfood are largely harmless claims.  As such, I would probably just lay low for the time being.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Email from PicRights.com
« on: January 15, 2018, 05:59:50 PM »
I didn't say to "ignore" these letters.  That is too broad a statement and is not applicable to everyone. I am simply saying that people put too much weight on the possibility of a lawsuit and it makes people crazy and irrational.

"Ignoring" an extortion letter is certainly the easiest thing to do but I don't always recommend it. The smaller the party, the greater the benefit to ignore the letter. However, well-established and profitable businesses don't have that luxury of always ignoring it. Sometimes, they are a target.

It depends on the circumstances. Sometimes, a well-written response is in order to set the facts straight.

So it sounds like your general advice is to ignore, ignore, ignore if it is a single image with a letter demanding a few hundred dollars? (picrights)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« on: January 15, 2018, 05:46:32 PM »
Well, their credibility just dropped as far as I am concerned. They want to dabble in cybercurrency along with trying to issue demand letters? None of that mixes well in my mind.


Was doing some research on Copytrack and came across your site and figured I would share the reason I was researching them. They currently have an ICO for a cryptocoin.

https://copytrack.io/

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Although I made a post on the rarely used Announcement forum, I should have made a broader announcement in this forum to inform everyone of the recent and overdue conversion of the ELI Forums to the new https security standard. The Wordpress side of ELI was successfully converted a few months ago in 2017.

https://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/announcements/eli-forums-being-converted-to-(https)-standard/

As with any major conversion, there are inevitable bugs and technical errors that are not caught. As such, I look to readers and members of the community for feedback.

An ELI Forum reader emailed me directly that he could not post new topics or respond to any existing topics the last 2.5 days. It turns out that was not a "bug", it was an admin (my) error. I unintentionally revoked permissions to post new topics and respond to topics for all users. That was obviously a major goof on my part.

Another thing, I have noticed (and expected) is that the forum performance is not quite as snappy and crisp as before. There is a certain amount of "overhead" that goes along with being https-compliant. So, I will be monitoring this.

Feel free to give your feedback and comments on any bugs / technical issues you might have on the ELI Forums. And if you cannot post here, definitely email me directly (matt30060 / gmail) of any technical issues you notice and encounter.

I apologize for any inconvenience. And thank you for being part of the ELI Forums.

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Although I made a post on the rarely used Announcement forum, I should have made a broader announcement in this forum to inform everyone of the recent and overdue conversion of the ELI Forums to the new https security standard. The Wordpress side of ELI was successfully converted a few months ago in 2017.

https://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/announcements/eli-forums-being-converted-to-(https)-standard/

As with any major conversion, there are inevitable bugs and technical errors that are not caught. As such, I look to readers and members of the community for feedback.

An ELI Forum reader emailed me directly that he could not post new topics or respond to any existing topics the last 2.5 days. It turns out that was not a "bug", it was an admin (my) error. I unintentionally revoked permissions to post new topics and respond to topics for all users. That was obviously a major goof on my part.

Another thing, I have noticed (and expected) is that the forum performance is not quite as snappy and crisp as before. There is a certain amount of "overhead" that goes along with being https-compliant. So, I will be monitoring this.

Feel free to give your feedback and comments on any bugs / technical issues you might have on the ELI Forums. And if you cannot post here, definitely email me directly (matt30060 / gmail) of any technical issues you notice and encounter.

I apologize for any inconvenience. And thank you for being part of the ELI Forums.

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Announcements / Re: ELI Forums Being converted to (https) standard
« on: January 12, 2018, 03:37:39 AM »
In the interest of keeping the community informed on the recent conversion of the ELI Forums to https standard, it appears I made one big goof. In trying to set read-only status to some older, outdated boards, I accidentally turned off the the ability to post new topic and respond to existing topics.

I should have set myself up a standard user account (non-admin) to test it out. If I had done that, I would have caught it. Unfortunately, because of my mistake there were no new posts the last 2.5 days.

Another issue that I have noticed that we may all have to live with is that I noticed that forum performance is a bit slower than I am used to. As I understand it, https carries a bit of overhead and it feels sluggish. As an admin, I am not immune to the overhead that seems to come with https so I will be monitoring this.

I hope this conversion to https doesn't create too many more inconveniences for all of us. I will be monitoring things and watching people's feedback and comments.

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Announcements / ELI Forums Being converted to (https) standard
« on: January 09, 2018, 02:16:29 AM »
It has been long overdue but the ELI Forums is being converted to https standard to increase security over Internet connections. Google has been strongly encouraging all website owners to do this. With Robert's help, we began preliminary work on this in 2017. The smaller Wordpress side was successfully converted in 2017. However, the much larger and more complicated ELI Forums has taken more time and required more effort.

As of January 2018, I believe we have converted most of ELI to https but there may still be elements we have missed.  If there are errors, bugs, or anything we have missed, please let me know so we can correct them.

Please email me any bugs or technical errors you have experienced to matt30060 / gmail. And allow me to apologize in advance for the inconvenience.

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Announcements / Re: The LE/LL/DP Forum has been taken down!
« on: January 09, 2018, 02:10:46 AM »
This forum was restored to full visibility but subsequently placed on Archive / Read Only Status after our GA Supreme Court victory in 2015. This forum is not longer active and preserved for archival purposes.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: PicRights.com
« on: January 09, 2018, 01:16:52 AM »
If they could collect money faster, they would bypass the demand letter process.  However, lawsuits without warning is just bad business and asking for trouble.  This is what RIAA and Righthaven learned the hard way. Righthaven got put out of business for recklessly filing lawsuits. They were assaulted from every direction for taking such actions.

Lawsuits, as a matter of good policy, is a measure of last resort. And sometimes filing a questionable lawsuit is just inviting trouble.

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