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Messages - Greg Troy (KeepFighting)

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Steve and Joel,

Welcome to the forum! We knew the day would come when Getty Images would send one of their demand letters to the wrong person who had the resources to fight back in a court of law. I was planning to see if I could find your emails and reach out to you tomorrow. I have been researching Getty Images and McCormack IP Law’s business model for two and half years now and have collected quite a bit of information. If you feel any of it may help with your lawsuit I would be willing to share it with you.

I firmly believe that artists have rights and should be compensated for their work but my issues with Getty Images and McCormack IP law are that

1)   They seem to ask amounts disproportionate to what the images are worth and/or what they could hope to win in a court of law. (They have recently lowered their demand amounts and are getting closer to what many would consider a reasonable demand)

2)   When asked to provide proof of claim to facilitate negotiation all such requests are denied and met with statements stating that the proof requested will only be provided through the discovery process, in other words will show you when we sue you.

3)   As you have seen their software is flawed and sends out demand letters for images that are hot linked, not visible to the public and even in at least two cases in the public domain.
I have been working gathering information in an attempt to hopefully submit this to Congress with suggestions for making changes to the current copyright law so that it not only protects artists rights but provide some protection for people who fall into the innocent infringer category (and those that are harassed like yourselves who have not infringed) from the heavy-handed tactics, implied legal threats and bullying from companies like Getty images and McCormack IP law.

Again, welcome to the forum and I look forward to following your case as it progresses. If you would like to discuss the materials that I have send me a PM with contact information and I will be happy to reach out to you.

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 :o

gotta love that one tweet... they showed her "whole" vagina...yeah leave it to me..or is that leave it to beaver??.... : )

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Hell has frozen over on ELI...
« on: August 23, 2014, 12:10:51 AM »
There is always something new happening.  This person just doesn't get or want to believe what he is being told, there is a vast wealth of knowledge here and if he were wise he would listen but some people have to pee on the electric fence before they will believe...... :o

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You are missing the point of everyone trying to help you here.  it is one thing to warn people to be careful and avoid using an image but you need to take the image down if you have not done so already, regardless of the value....it's not yours.  ELI tells everyone if you didn't take the photo, license the photo or know for sure it's in the public domain then DON'T use it. There is a world of difference in taking an image down, then fighting the good fight as opposed to your approach.  Just saying.....

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This is awesome! 

I agree with Jerry's comments about the beginning of the end.

I hope that it is more than just a publicity stunt and they truly see what Getty Images and McCormack IP Law are doing is wrong and see an opportunity to do something.  If it is more than a publicity stunt I have a LOT of information I would be willing to share if they are willing to get it into the records and make Getty and McCormack IP law do some splainin'.

May have to reach out to them over the weekend.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: U.S. Copyright Office casual reading
« on: August 22, 2014, 11:33:53 PM »
I wonder if it reflects the Alaska Stock decision?  I will have to read this when I have time.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: To ELI Readers, I am Enemy Number One!
« on: August 21, 2014, 09:20:16 AM »
Matthew,

As you said, you have a LOT of friends and supporters as well as many new ones.  I think it would be safe to safe if any of your enemies were to silence ELI you would see 3-4 new forum sites up in a matter of days. 

These people who make their living by trolling and want to silence ELI never seem to realize that the tactics they are employing are bringing their business model and actions more and more into the public view.  Their business model has survived for so long because they have stayed in the shadows and the confidentiality agreement was their best friend.  ELI has always operated in the light and been transparent.  I believe their latest move of trying to use the court system to silence you/ELI will fail as all the records are public and out there to see. 

It is attracting a LOT of attention.... a LOT of attention, and when people and organizations hear about your case and actually read the documents they can easily see who is telling the truth. The more we can bring these people out into the light the more people will see what they are doing and how they operate!


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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Vincent K Tylor strikes again
« on: August 10, 2014, 12:27:22 AM »
If someone doesn't like our content, they need to stop visiting and reading ELI.  Simple as that.

And stop doing unethical things, then would wouldn't have to report on their actions.

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Agreed, they may have a case and if so Vermont could file a counter suit.

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Matthew,

It is also interesting that as ELI and others spread the word about the business models of these companies how more and more people are refusing to just roll over and are fighting back.  I have not tracked the other companies you mentioned but here are the numbers for Getty Images and McCormack IP Law's Attorney General complaints.

Getty Images

2005 - 1
2006 - 4
2007 - 4
2008 - 4
2009 - 5
2010 - 4
2011 - 13
2012 - 54
2013 - 74

McCormack IP Law
(Not sure when he started working with Getty but I would guess about 6-7 years)

2008 - 0
2009 - 0
2010 - 0
2011 - 0
2012 - 11
2013 - 21


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Thanks for sharing this Matthew!

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Thanks for the case updates Matthew!

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Agreed, while I don't like Getty Images and McCormack IP Law's current business model what the Camp's did was just wrong in every way possible.  They got what they deserved as their actions were willful and blatant.

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I'm glad to see they covered the story even without the corrections.  I am seeing more and more people take interest in this case.

@ Matthew
I just noticed your new tag line....I like it. :)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Putting My Money Where My Mouth Is
« on: July 27, 2014, 08:16:07 PM »
We also have the claim I reported on recently where Getty was offered the FULL amount demanded by a web developer if Getty would just provide proof that they had the legal right to collect on behalf their client. He also offered 500.00 no questions asked if Getty didn't want to accept the first offer.  Getty refused FULL payment and told the web developer that they would start going after his client.

Fulls Story and documents here:
http://gettyimagesmustchange.com/site/have-getty-images-and-mccormack-intellectual-property-law-ps-crossed-the-extortion-line/

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