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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Tape Recording Conversations

« on: June 17, 2012, 08:05:28 PM »

Who could forget Rowan and Martin's "Laugh In". Oscar remembers!

Funny stuff!
 

Peeved, you're showing your age.

Bring back the Smothers Brothers, too.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Tape Recording Conversations

« on: June 17, 2012, 04:07:11 PM »

Mafia dons hate it when their phone calls get recorded too.

I wonder how copyright trolling lawyer Timothy B. McCormack is making out with the complaints filed against him with the Washington State Bar Association? I sure hope answering the complaints against him and trying to explain what he's doing as a copyright troll isn't eating up too much of his time and peace of mind.

I'm also really sorry to hear that he's now losing serenity over the possibility that someone might record a telephone call from his office. You know, it's weird, but I never worry about someone recording my calls. Perhaps that's because I tell the truth and don't attempt to extract money from people I don't even know.

It is awful, however, that he's fearful and worried that someone might actually hold him or someone from his office to account for words coming out of his law firm.

Thank God he has Oscar's shoulder to cry on!

In closing, below some quick research about what I believe are the penalties for recording a phone call in Washington State without permission from both parties:

Wash. Rev. Code Ann. §9.73.030(1)(a)
Chapter 9.73 RCW
Privacy, violating right of

Penalties.

(1) Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, any person who violates RCW 9.73.030 is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

     (2) Any person who knowingly alters, erases, or wrongfully discloses any recording in violation of RCW 9.73.090(1)(c) is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

[2000 c 195 § 3; 1989 c 271 § 209; 1967 ex.s. c 93 § 6.]

If you want to dig into this more deeply, here's the link:

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.73&full=true#9.73.080

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Class action suit filed against “Getty Images Master Delegate” in Israel.

« on: June 13, 2012, 06:56:25 PM »

Ian, all I can say is "Thank you" for the thousands and thousands of victims around the world who have been taken in by Getty Images and their outside counsel copyright trolls like Timothy B. McCormack of Seattle, WA.

Reading your post made my day, and I've printed it out as bedside reading for this evening before heading off to sleep. Sweet dreams will be thus guaranteed. Well done, well done!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Special ELI Video Updates with Oscar Michelen

« on: June 13, 2012, 03:02:56 PM »

Geez, you guys, I didn't say I was going soft.

I said I was glad to hear about the "cringe factor" because it'll help keep me from going full scale nuclear on some of these things that don't deserve such a blast.

You can be sure I'll continue to express my opinion. Sometimes with kid gloves and other times with enchilada fart force but hopefully most of the time with well-reasoned and constructive commentary and useful research. With an occasional dollop of humor.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Special ELI Video Updates with Oscar Michelen

« on: June 13, 2012, 12:23:18 PM »

I just finished watching the first video. Good stuff! Thanks Oscar and Matt. I found especially interesting the fact that one can expect anywhere from six to twelve letters when Getty's involved. This was a helpful keep your "loins girded" tidbit.

I also liked Oscar's mention of the "cringe factor." Being aware of this will help me be more mindful of what I write on the days when a full head of steam has worked up to blow off level.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty From Start To Finish

« on: June 08, 2012, 04:37:08 PM »

Tim, too bad you didn't have time to do more reading because quite a few of us here on ELI are fighting our little battles with Getty Images and their copyright troll outside counsel Timothy B. McCormack of Seattle, WA. Some use Oscar's letter program, some pay to talk to Matt, and some do it entirely on their own, using the wealth of info and experience to be found in this forum.

Too bad you shelled out because in my opinion, there's no reason whatsoever to knuckle under to these people or to pay them even a dime when they refuse to provide the legal documentation that proves they have a right to demand a settlement.

On the other hand, if ending the stress and time commitment necessary to fight these folks was worth to you what you paid, then take the $585 off your taxes as a business expense and more power to you.

With that said, I have to admit I don't know if paying a settlement demand would be a legitimate tax deduction. Seems like it would be. I'm not going to look up the definitive answer, though, because nothing on earth at this point would ever get me to pay Getty or one of their outside counsels anything other than a series of farts generated after a big Tex-Mex dinner.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: In other news..

« on: June 07, 2012, 05:40:59 PM »

Did I read that document properly?

HAN cannot go forward in getting a default judgment because there's...

|x|  No proof of service/waiver of service on file.

I read that as meaning someone screwed the pooch pretty good.

(Withholding additional rude, insensitive, and sarcastic commentary on this for now.)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: What Will Glen Carner's ELI Contribution Be? No more free rides.

« on: June 07, 2012, 04:12:22 PM »

If a lawyer is confident that his demand letters are legally, ethically, and morally correct, he should have no reason to fear a public examination of those letters. Of course that presupposes ethical and moral behavior on the part of the attorney, which near as I can tell isn't a given, especially with the copyright trolls in the profession.

None of these copyright trolling extortionists and their lawyers deserve a second chance. They know what they're doing. They're behaving like bullies for a quick buck. They deserve every bit of blow back that comes their way. Every bit. That blow back needs to come hard and fast the minute they dare try to pull off one of their schemes. Send these trolls running and screaming back into their dank and dirty caves where they belong.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: What Will Glen Carner's ELI Contribution Be? No more free rides.

« on: June 07, 2012, 02:09:16 PM »

How many thousands was Carner trying to extract from EVNL?

I think that would be a perfect number for his contribution to staying on ELI.

If he doesn't want to pay to play, show him the door. That's my two bits worth.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 07, 2012, 02:06:24 PM »

Peeved, super post. +1

McFilms, I appreciate you, your contributions to ELI, and, almost all of the time, the way you think.

Regarding benefits of the doubt, however, I believe you're naive to believe for a moment that the serious trolls have any intention of changing to a C&D first for what are obviously non-egregious and in most cases innocent infringements and then escalation if a C&D doesn't occur (which to my thinking is the sole reasonable, moral, and ethical approach in the digital age for dealing with copyright laws that are out-dated and inappropriate for the Internet -- and thus highly abused by the trolls).

Unfortunately, there's no money to be had in taking the reasonable course and for people like Glen Carner and the Getty Images trolls, they are in the copyright payment extraction business to make money. That's their right, of course, at least until they get slapped down by a Federal Court at some point and end up losing some big dollars.

But as for giving these sharks the benefit of the doubt and providing them with insights on how to better extract payments using copyright laws... I'll personally take a pass on doing that, thank you.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 07, 2012, 12:15:54 PM »

Personally, I think that you're giving H.A.N./Tylor/Carner/CSI way too much credit. The onus isn't on us to be "understanding", and give them the "benefit of the doubt". I don't think that the regulars here agree with you that H.A.N/CSI et al have earned that. I'd like to see others chime in and give their opinions, but some don't like disagreements among the regulars.
S.G.

+1 to what S.G. wrote.

It's all about money, and that's all it's ever been about for the copyright trolls.

Carner's self-serving BS and phony apologies to EVNL turn my stomach.

Giving this guy the benefit of the doubt is comparable to serving up fat tuna to slick sharks.

As far as I'm concerned, individuals who pervert copyright law to try to demand big payments from others are lower than Mafia hoods, who at least have the balls to try to extract your money one-on-one.

I wish Carner would crawl back in his hole because his self-serving BS would gag a maggot. It's certainly making my stomach churn every time I read the latest bit from him.

And, Carner, if you feel beat up reading this kind of post, sit down and look in the mirror and think about your treatment of EVNL (and God only knows how many others you and your BS lawyers have treated over the years in the same way).

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Oscar Michelen Hits Back Against Conrad-Scherer Extortion Letter

« on: June 05, 2012, 07:51:32 PM »

Oscar, thanks for sharing this letter. Great reading. Matt, thanks for posting.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 05, 2012, 07:42:42 PM »

Great reading. Thanks Oscar for sharing this letter and Matt thanks for posting it.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 04, 2012, 04:53:59 PM »

Moe, I've yet to meet a copyright troll who understands irony.

Timothy B. McCormack, for example, thinks of himself as an independent filmmaker who, in his words on his law office site, tells us that his: "predisposition as a storyteller is to look for life’s universal connections and meanings in the human stories that might not otherwise be told."

This from the man who sends out settlement demand letters to extract huge amounts of money without giving a shite or even wanting to hear the "human stories" behind the "infringements" he states people have made while refusing to provide proof of registration or chain of custody.

Glen Carner apparently lacks this same understanding of irony, given how he responded to Extortion Victim No Longer's very human and what seems to me to be a quite genuine plea for understanding of her situation.

Here's what EVNL wrote:

Going back in time to when this all began, I contacted Vincent Tylors wife in an attempt to plead with Mr. Tylor but she answered the phone. I could barely speak as I made the call during one of my crying & panic episodes. I told her that I was so scared & what would my son do with me being in jail? I told her I had no idea that what I had done was wrong. I apologised with all my heart & told her about my financial situation. She was very kind & told me that no one goes to jail & advised me to call Glen Carter who is a very understanding man & to communicate with him.

I did call Glen Carter, again in tears, he informed me to discuss it with Brandon Sand. I pleaded with Brandon Sand...many times, begged him to give me a break, doing all I could to prove I couldn't pay & didn't have the funds. I called Glen Carner a second time & received the same former  response. After many calls & emails to Brandon Sand, I made one final phone call, sobbing as always, I told him how scared I was & what would happen to my son if I went to jail? He said pay the money & that will no longer be a concern. I finally asked him where the humanity was in all of this & his answer was, "the humanity in all this is to pay the money".

I write this summary of the experience I went through because even though in the end I was guilty for being ignorant of the law, I want others to know they are not alone & hopefully save them from shedding a few tears & fear filled nights awake. I am a strong person who is not scared of much & I certainly don't cry very often unless I am threatened by something like prison. The truth of the matter is that these photos found on freewallpaper sites and such are making artists, lawyers & picscout a lot of money. Whatever way/ways these images are getting out there, either by mistake or intentionally, substantial earnings are being generated by the result of people's fear, ignorance & innocent infringements. Which is worse?

Glen, the beating you're taking here on ELI is nothing compared to the treatment EVNL described above as coming from you on two different occasions. And you want honest and ethical politicians. The irony here couldn't be cut through with a logger's chainsaw.

You copyright trolls nazis can dish it out, but you sure start whining about being beaten up when the facts about what you're doing to others start coming out.

As for you having courage to be on ELI, no, I don't buy that one either.

Men with courage don't whine about being beaten up when their actions are laid out in front of them.

Men of courage respond specifically to accusations made against them, and their responses regarding their behavior are based on moral and ethical foundations.

Men who lack courage as well as moral and ethical foundations at their core whine, cry, and "pass" on providing specific replies to facts presented to them about what they've done (and continue to do) because they know their answers would indict them.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: What is Glen Carner's Official Position on Vincent K. Tylor?

« on: June 02, 2012, 06:13:53 PM »

Glen Carner, on brothersoft.com someone apparently used your name on April 13, 2010, to plant an image and clearly label it as...

License: Freeware Free
Requirement: No special requirements
Publisher: Glen Carner

This is found at http://www.brothersoft.com/hawaii-pictures-screen-saver-13.html

I guess you don't know much about the internet because many individuals think it's web friendly to upload and pass along images clearly labeled as Freeware, Free.

How unfortunate that some of these same individuals will eventually get amicable phone calls to be followed by threatening letters from an aggrieved middleman's lawyer to "protect the rights" of some photographer.

But, hey, a guy has to feed his family and keep the world safe by twisting enforcing copyright law, right??