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Legal Controversies Forum / Re: A Case To Remember
« on: May 25, 2016, 07:12:08 PM »
well, well, well looky who came out of the woodwork!!...Hope you are well Peevy!
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Simon Muirhead and Burton demand on behalf of Getty
« on: May 25, 2016, 07:02:03 PM »
I'll jump in here, but first you need to know I'm in the states and not familiar with UK law, I'm also fortunate ( or unfortunate) to be not only a victim of Getty's trolling tactics, but also a hobbyist photographer... Just some point about Getty Images and their scam worth considering, when looking at their track record.
1. They always provide screenshots, however this is not proof of infringement, we have seen many cases in the 5+ yrs I have been active on this forum, where images have been "linked", or brought into a web page via an rss feed.. Google v perfect10 clearly state that hotlinking is NOT infringement, yet Getty and other trolls still try to collect.
2. As stated previously, Getty has tried to collect on images in the public domain. ( shots from NASA, as well as the US Armed forces), yet they still try to collect.
3. Somewhere in the getty forum is a thread concerning Getty Images attempting to enforce copyright for one of their contributors, the letter recipient reached out directly to the photographer, who informed the recipient, that he was no longer associated with Getty, and hadn't been for some time...yet Getty tries to collect....
4. Then we have the photographer that uploads stock images to sell thru Getty, and "double dips" by also uploading those images to another stock agency....yup Getty tries to collect...remember the burden is on Getty to prove the infringement, it doesn't work the other way around.
5. To reference my case, I supplied Getty with the license agreement I received after purchasing some stock images and templates, the response from Getty was " anybody could have created this agreement, show us an invoice"...mind you I purchased the images 10 yrs prior & I had no invoice and was lucky to even find the license agreement...Getty till tried to collect and failed miserably.
6. what about folks that purchase images in good faith, but it turns out the place where they purchased the images, swiped them?? Getty doesn't care, they just want your money.
7. Why is it that Getty always stonewalls when asked for records, and or further information?? Could it be they don't have their ducks in a row?? Now is a good time to remind everyone of the case that went to Federal Court and Getty LOST, because when they presented the contract between Getty and the photographer, there seemed to be a small piece missing....the signature of the artist!!...sorry Getty contracts must be signed by both parties or it's not a contract..
just some food for thought folks...Getty wants your money, they don't care about FACTS, circumstances or their own contributors, they only care about income and keeping the "board" happy...The stock image industry is for all intents and purposes dead and gone and Getty Images among others have failed to adapt to the changing landscape.
1. They always provide screenshots, however this is not proof of infringement, we have seen many cases in the 5+ yrs I have been active on this forum, where images have been "linked", or brought into a web page via an rss feed.. Google v perfect10 clearly state that hotlinking is NOT infringement, yet Getty and other trolls still try to collect.
2. As stated previously, Getty has tried to collect on images in the public domain. ( shots from NASA, as well as the US Armed forces), yet they still try to collect.
3. Somewhere in the getty forum is a thread concerning Getty Images attempting to enforce copyright for one of their contributors, the letter recipient reached out directly to the photographer, who informed the recipient, that he was no longer associated with Getty, and hadn't been for some time...yet Getty tries to collect....
4. Then we have the photographer that uploads stock images to sell thru Getty, and "double dips" by also uploading those images to another stock agency....yup Getty tries to collect...remember the burden is on Getty to prove the infringement, it doesn't work the other way around.
5. To reference my case, I supplied Getty with the license agreement I received after purchasing some stock images and templates, the response from Getty was " anybody could have created this agreement, show us an invoice"...mind you I purchased the images 10 yrs prior & I had no invoice and was lucky to even find the license agreement...Getty till tried to collect and failed miserably.
6. what about folks that purchase images in good faith, but it turns out the place where they purchased the images, swiped them?? Getty doesn't care, they just want your money.
7. Why is it that Getty always stonewalls when asked for records, and or further information?? Could it be they don't have their ducks in a row?? Now is a good time to remind everyone of the case that went to Federal Court and Getty LOST, because when they presented the contract between Getty and the photographer, there seemed to be a small piece missing....the signature of the artist!!...sorry Getty contracts must be signed by both parties or it's not a contract..
just some food for thought folks...Getty wants your money, they don't care about FACTS, circumstances or their own contributors, they only care about income and keeping the "board" happy...The stock image industry is for all intents and purposes dead and gone and Getty Images among others have failed to adapt to the changing landscape.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Latest info from Pacer on recent Getty Fla lawsuit
« on: May 08, 2016, 08:51:50 AM »
This case was settled out of court.
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Question if I May
« on: April 22, 2016, 10:57:00 AM »An image is for sale on a rival photo agency website (say a small one like Pinnacle or a large one like the PA) but not on Getty or any of it's subsidiaries.
Just another piece of the puzzle I am trying to put together.... Topical question I guess would benefit other forum users also..
Lets not forget that Getty & LCS are 2 seperate entities ( both owned by Getty)
"LCS" is actually "Picscout", where artists, photogs, and stock agencies sign up and add their catalogs (images), which inturns allows "Picscout" to do its thing. ( scanning servers for matches).. So in essence Pinnacle may be a client of picscout, when a "potential match or hit" occurs the form letter is generated from LCS, which just happens to be housed at the same address as Getty images.
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Atradius/Getty
« on: April 13, 2016, 05:47:43 PM »
You're going to be in big trouble mister! You think you can just go ahead and post that email without retribution?! "Counsel" will not be happy and will likely jump on the next trans-atlantic flight to summons you to the high court of the queens land..
What a bunch of blumpkins.
What a bunch of blumpkins.
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Atradius/Getty
« on: April 13, 2016, 10:45:18 AM »
Looks like not only is Greg Bonser an asshat, he's a crybaby as well...Grow some balls for christs sake!
http://copyright-trolls.com/site/copyright-troll-greg-bonser-atradius-collections-employee-cries-to-boss/
http://copyright-trolls.com/site/copyright-troll-greg-bonser-atradius-collections-employee-cries-to-boss/
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Damn- Getty just filed a new suit in Fla
« on: April 10, 2016, 09:59:58 AM »
I'm going to get more info on this case, as I am involved on a secondary level. Seems the image in question was registered with the copyright office...a rarity for Getty Images.. Your chances of getting sued are still very low, in relation to the number of demand letter sent out.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty Images and LCS
« on: March 13, 2016, 10:19:00 AM »
see if you can find the image on those other sites using archive.org, surly a screen shot of such would be sufficient for getty, since they seem to supply screen shots as "evidence" on a regular basis..
I'm curious as to how signed their response letter, most Getty employees are dumb as fuck.
I'm curious as to how signed their response letter, most Getty employees are dumb as fuck.
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Atradius/Getty
« on: March 11, 2016, 11:12:52 AM »
Just to put a face to the douchebag that is Greg Bonser:
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10013196_10202036016195206_1966172383_n.jpg?oh=fd3b0f072ca29f6182bb62eebe6467ee&oe=574EA7C5
https://www.facebook.com/greg.bonser.7?fref=ts
https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/10013196_10202036016195206_1966172383_n.jpg?oh=fd3b0f072ca29f6182bb62eebe6467ee&oe=574EA7C5
https://www.facebook.com/greg.bonser.7?fref=ts
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Section 512 Study: Notice and Request for Public Comment
« on: March 04, 2016, 02:41:44 PM »
can you please share what this "loop hole" is you are referring to,and how it ties into DMCA?
"copyright trolls (mainly stock photo companies) have found a loophole that they are exploiting to extort egregious amounts of money "
and you state this: "Automated take-down notices make sense but should not be allowed to demand money"
do you have a dmca takedown notice that also demands money? that's not how the process works, if you have a properly filed registered agent..
"A simple cease and desist letter should be the required first step ".... with a properly filed registered agent, the DMCA takedown notice IS the cease and desist, but also allows a counter claim to refute the infringement.
Overall DMCA is a good system, is it abused?? yes in the forms of mistruths, should the filer of bogus takedowns be held accountable?? YES, this is the biggest problem I see with DMCA.. ON another note you mentioned that a registred agent should be automatic when registering a company...not all businesses need to have a registered agent, so this would be a waste of time and money, also it's not the governments job to alert folks about Registered Agents, that falls squarely on the business owner/ site operator to do their due diligence.
These bots that find infringements, don't find registered agent links on sites and they should, however it is easy enough if one gets a demand letter, while having a registered agent, to simply send once response telling these douchebags that an agent is in place..and reminding them that by law they must follow DMCA guidelines..end of story,end of case, end of any monetary demands.
"copyright trolls (mainly stock photo companies) have found a loophole that they are exploiting to extort egregious amounts of money "
and you state this: "Automated take-down notices make sense but should not be allowed to demand money"
do you have a dmca takedown notice that also demands money? that's not how the process works, if you have a properly filed registered agent..
"A simple cease and desist letter should be the required first step ".... with a properly filed registered agent, the DMCA takedown notice IS the cease and desist, but also allows a counter claim to refute the infringement.
Overall DMCA is a good system, is it abused?? yes in the forms of mistruths, should the filer of bogus takedowns be held accountable?? YES, this is the biggest problem I see with DMCA.. ON another note you mentioned that a registred agent should be automatic when registering a company...not all businesses need to have a registered agent, so this would be a waste of time and money, also it's not the governments job to alert folks about Registered Agents, that falls squarely on the business owner/ site operator to do their due diligence.
These bots that find infringements, don't find registered agent links on sites and they should, however it is easy enough if one gets a demand letter, while having a registered agent, to simply send once response telling these douchebags that an agent is in place..and reminding them that by law they must follow DMCA guidelines..end of story,end of case, end of any monetary demands.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty Images extortion Letter and now McCormack Threat
« on: March 04, 2016, 02:11:37 PM »
SOL is 3 yrs, hop you didn't just jinx yourself!!...Seattle "attorney" and grand douchebag has been busy growing and selling dope, dealing drugs is most likely more lucrative than chasing BS infringements for Getty Images.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: BWP Media Sanders Law
« on: February 24, 2016, 12:55:23 PM »
yes I'm a rebel!, if it were me and the image was hot linked and not residing n your servers, I would put it back, and tell them t pound salt.. If you want to send me the link to the iage in question, I'll gladly link to it n my blog, just to bust their balls...cause I'm nice like that.
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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty and LCS letters
« on: February 06, 2016, 08:44:29 AM »
I'll just add to forget abut the whole thing they downloaded your site for commercial gain, that won't get you anywhere..
as an FYI you should block picscout from accessing your servers in the future, there are several posts on this topic in the forums somewhere.
as an FYI you should block picscout from accessing your servers in the future, there are several posts on this topic in the forums somewhere.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Letters from LCS - no response after 5 weeks?
« on: January 27, 2016, 11:22:35 AM »
For what it's worth, LCS can't sue you,only the owner of the copyright can sue you, LCS tries to collect on behalf of the owner, much like a sub contracted collection agency.
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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: LCS letters
« on: January 22, 2016, 03:23:18 PM »
Generally speaking Getty does not file over single image issues, it's not worth it to them. I don't have the stats in front of me regarding what they filed in the last couple of years, however the percentage of suits filed verse the number of letters, is rather small, as in probably less than 1%.
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