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I am surprised when ANYONE uses an AOL email address.  It looks really bad and outdated for sure.

That's good info. I'm a little confused/surprised with the defense attorney using an AOL email address. It just looks off, might not be practicing much.

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This interesting nugget was submitted to me by an interested and informed ELI Forum reader.

It is regarding one of Higbee's photographer clients, Aaron C. Reed. Reportedly, a "reasonable" $1,000 settlement was turned down because the Defendant did not like/agree with the confidentiality clause.

https://oregonintellectualproperty.com/2017/09/01/photographer-files-copyright-lawsuit-after-settlement-negotiations-break-down-over-confidentiality-clause/

From the lawsuit complaint itself:

Plaintiff attempted to amicably settle the matter with Defendants after informing them of their infringing use. However, after the parties agreed on a settlement amount, Defendants’ counsel rejected a proposed settlement agreement that contained a standard confidentiality clause as a material term because Defendants’ counsel did not wish to be personally bound by confidentiality ostensibly on account of an article that Defendants’ counsel intended to submit to California Lawyer magazine. Defendant’s counsel apparently believed that amicable settlement was not prudent, as these types of cases “need more exposure.”

Below is an exhibit of an alleged email that shows that Higbee will settle for far less than the obnoxious $5,000 quoted in letters I often see. Higbee's lawyer, Naomi Sarega, purportedly wrote the email below which seems to indicated she wants to keep the defendant quiet regarding the settlement amount and not complain to anyone about the plaintiff/photographer, Aaron Reed.

From: Naomi Sarega <[email protected]>
To: dwtbrown <[email protected]>
Cc: Evan McMurtrey <[email protected]>; Ali Hassanzadeh <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Aug 17, 2017 4:41 pm

Subject: Re: Proposed change to Release Rejected- 504000

Hi David,

My name is Naomi Sarega, I am an attorney with the Copyright Division at the Law Firm of
Higbee & Associates. It is our standard practice to include a confidentiality clause in our release
agreements to protect all parties involved. While Mr. Reed is more than happy for the public to
know that he is serious about enforcing his copyright, the only reason your client would be
opposed to a confidentiality agreement would be if he has plans to discuss the matter (potentially
including negative information about Mr. Reed). At this point, for a $1,000 settlement on a
registered image used on a website that lists multi-million dollar homes, the confidentiality clause
is non-negotiable. If you would like to provide me with a valid reason as to why your client is
concerned about the confidentiality clause, I’d be more than happy to discuss it with my client.
Please let me know if you would like to discuss this further.

Thank you,
Naomi

Naomi Sarega
Supervising Attorney
Copyright Division
Law Firm of Higbee & Associates (http://www.higbeeassociates.com)
1504 Brookhollow Dr., Suite 112, Santa Ana, CA 92705
Phone: (800) 716-1245

This electronic mail message and any attachment is confidential and may also contain privileged attorney client
information or work product. If you are not the intended recipient, or the person responsible to deliver it to
the intended recipient, you may not use, disseminate, distribute or copy this communication. If you have
received the message in error, please immediately notify us by reply electronic mail or by telephone and delete this original message. Thank you very much.

===================

Defendant lawyer's purported email response. It is a very unusual response.


On Aug 18, 2017, at 9:42 AM, [email protected] wrote:

Hello Naomi,

I am confused. If your client has no concerns regarding publicity, what could be said "negatively"
about him for "enforcing his copyright?"

My client is only moderately interested in publicizing these types of cases and the business model
behind them. Me, much more so, as I believe this matter needs some attention. I am being and
have been completely transparent in all my actions on this and related matters as I know that
actions taken today in this type of matter often end up being scrutinized later, under harsher
lights.

I have settled a few of these cases, and I am familiar with the criteria used by Federal Court
Judges in deciding attorney fees. I also know how the perception of these cases is evolving in
the public mindset, legislatively, and judicially.

I am writing an article for submission to California Lawyer magazine, in collaboration with the my
summer intern (who is also Staff Editor at his law school's law review) , and we have nothing to
hide. I do not know if it will be accepted by any publication, but if you would like to have input, I
would be pleased to hear your thoughts. I have found that few cases need more exposure, but
some do. I believe that these cases are of that type.

You might also look up a couple of the consumer websites I have started. If you are curious I can
give you the website addresses. One was featured on The Today Show a few months ago. I am
proud to have been involved in defending a number of cases in Los Angeles County a few years
ago where some attorneys in Los Angeles County were using the American with Disabilities Act
to pursue small businesses and obtain a number of settlements against intimidated business
owners by over representing their exposure under the ADA, and using the threat of Attorney fees
to leverage an onerous settlement. Every few years a case or cases come up to which I react
strongly.

My client's website which you refer to used the image for a few months, on a scroll of many
photos where it would appear for a few seconds, on a website where the MOST people who ever
visited in one month was 115. Not a typo, 115 visitors was the most in any month. In fact,
because of the timing of the scroll, very few of the people likely even saw the image. It was the
eighth in a number of images which would appear briefly and then fade to another image. The
price of the homes listed, as you know, is not a factor used in determining the Statutory damages
under 17 USC 504. Further, listing expensive homes does not equal a huge income. My client
wishes that were so, as do most real estate brokers and agents.

If you want confidentiality, I am obliged, in my client's interests to offer a mutual release for no
monies. My client is being pursued by other attorneys in similar matters regarding the same
website, and I make this offer in his interests, putting my own and the public interest beneath
his. My client would also give up his rights under California Civil Code Section 17200, and any
other remedies. You are, of course, welcome to simply cash the check for $1000, the agreed
amount.

Thank You,
David Brown

======================

Higbee thinks they are doing a good thing here filing on behalf of client, Aaron Reed. But this lawsuit "outs" the name of a few Higbee lawyers and the exhibit emails support my assessment about Higbee's operations that the $5,000+ settlement amounts are absolute bullshit. It is routine and systematic lying by the Higbee operation in my view. Higbee is willing to settle for a $1,000 and call it a day.

The lawsuit appears to be trying to throw lawyer, David Brown, under the bus by hitting the defendant. It appears that a $1,000 check was sent but that was not good enough for Reed or Higbee.  This is a situation where Higbee seems to be a real stickler to keep people quiet. They appear to get a $1,000 check but it seems Reed/Higbee is forcing the issue. I think there will be unintended consequences for both sides.

I suspect I know why Reed/Higbee wants confidentiality. So people won't know that settlement amounts can be very low.  But it seems the defendants were willing to pay the $1,000. Are the Higbee team trying to make the Defendant's lawyer, Brown, "look bad" here because Brown wanted to tell a story publicly? That seems to be a swipe at him. Is Reed/Higbee filing the lawsuit in a pre-emptive effort anticipating negative publicity Brown might generate by telling his client's story?

I think there is more to the story that is not being told here.

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That is what I have been saying all along.

People keep looking at Higbee because he is the "front man" but Youngson is conveniently hiding out in the UK. If he filed a lawsuit (Under who? Youngson or RM Media?), he would have to show up.

And regarding the "rumors" of switching to Sanders, I would like to know more. I have not heard this.

Plus Youngson would need to come to the US which I don't see happening, especially if the rumors of him switching to the Sanders law firm are true.

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Icepick,

You have me very intrigued. I am tracking reports people are submitting to me. And the Higbee folks are getting bolder with reports of their outbound phone calls/voicemails.

Regarding the business insurance aspect, this tactic has been used by a number of the copyright extortion industry. However, you have perked my ears up by your implication that this may actually be a potential State Bar violation.

I heard (and spoke) with a lawyer who reached out to me with some new information and updated which I need to publicize in regards to the Higbee/Nick Youngson situation.  He feels that some Higbee's clerks are walking a dangerous line of practicing law without a license negotiating on behalf of Higbee.

It does appear that a few copyright defense lawyers are reading ELI and helping their clients defense against some of the shadier/edgier tactics that is being reported by some victims.

I invite you to contact me directly at matt30060 / gmail.


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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copytrack extortion letter
« on: September 14, 2017, 08:43:08 PM »
My comments inline...

I was contacted by Copytrack and I am in the same situation. I used a photograph of a band I found on their facebook page on an article and credited the author, both in the article and in the link of the photograph. Apparently, this wasn't not enough, and I was hit with the email to buy the photo. I contacted the photographer directly, she said she can't get involved in this issue anymore, as it is out of her hands.

The photographer doesn't want to get his hands dirty. It is their case and they can handle it anyway they want to if they are inclined. However, they hired Copytrack.

I run a blog that generates no income, and it's not a legally constituted company. It isn't even registered anywhere.... it is just a digital blog. I am currently unemployed and have no assets under my name they can come after, so I have no means of paying the €400 they ask. The blog is hosted in Portugal. I replied saying I sourced the photograph, they didn't care. So I emailed back stating my current situation and I'm still waiting for a reply.

If you don't have enough money to pay a negotiated settlement, then your path is clear. Just ignore it. You can't pay money you don't have.

Is a lawsuit likely to happen in this scenario? How did other situations evolve?

Only speaking for U.S. situations, I have not heard of any Copytrack-originated lawsuits. And you just got done saying you are not able to pay, a lawsuit will not squeeze money where there is none.


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Oscar Michelen's Defense Letter Program is still very much available for those who prefer professional representation vs. handling it yourself.

It isn't a high-priority service. Sometimes there are delays in communications but Oscar still accepts clients.

Follow the instructions on this page:

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/2012-update-expansion-of-attorney-oscar-michelens-defense-letter-program/


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You resolve the matter by negotiating a settlement. Otherwise, you have to live with the uncertainty for the next 3 years.

People who settle the matter will generally not say anything publicly. They will also not generally not share what they settle for but I am confident people can settle for much less than the $5K.  However, it is still a lot to settle for most people.

Ultimately, people have to make their own "resolution" if you elect not to negotiate or settle the matter.

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My answer is a little late but $175 settlement fee seems sufficiently low enough to pay for those who want to put an end to the matter and have closure.

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Given that you are knowledgeable of Pacer, your information is going to be just as good as anything we have from a filing lawsuit standpoint.  Just continue to monitor RM Media Ltd and Nick Youngson's names.

The central issue is whether Youngson/RM Media will eventually file a lawsuit in the U.S. But because Higbee is based in California, I imagine that would be the first place to file. It would be the easiest. But I think Youngson's situation is fraught with problems that a judge would not like to see in a case. That is my non-lawyer opinion.

There is no question that anyone that is being accused of infringing a Wild image has a higher risk of being sued.

And regarding the cases that are being closed out?  I would bet a lot of money that they are being closed out because they are being settled.  Having a lawsuit being served tends to motivate most people into settling and that is probably what is happening.

Higbee is probably pretty happy that people are publishing all the lawsuits he has filed on behalf of Wild and his other clients. It is free PR that sends a general message to the world at large "settle or we will sue".

Only the intellectually curious will drill down and make better distinctions to what is going on. And many of us do exactly that. We don't accept things at face value.


It progresses from emails and 1 letter to more emails and letters to this particular letter with copy of the lawsuit. Same situation where it is from RM Media Ltd but the copyright is in Nicholas Youngson's name.
Thanks Mathew for pointing out the discrepancy in copyright ownership - definitely an important point.
Matthew, Robert or anyone here - Any other updates here recently or anyone seen actual lawsuits filed for Youngson especially in California? Thanks.
This is getting a bit crazy. Looks like they have a well-oiled machine going.

FYI Higbee does have several more lawsuits in the last few months, most notably several for the photographer Wild. Latest PACER list as below. Some are being closed out, but I don't know how to tell if these are settled.

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Wow, great example.  So much fraud out there. Even when one tries to be legit, you encounter suspicious material.

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My comments inline...

I received one of these Higbee demand letters in February 2017 through a website I run. At first, I was a little nervous and then I Googled and came out to this site. I'm a lawyer and I knew things were fishy before even coming to this great resource.

Welcome, glad to have you here!

1. I found it odd that they sent a demand through regular mail. Usually, in important legal papers, I at least use tracking.

In the "old" days (pre-2012), almost everything we saw was through regular mail but then gradually we began seeing copyright claim emails which has almost become the norm today. I estimate there are literally thousands of copyright claims each year.  It is all based on most people's legal ignorance. The emails are generally as effective as sending a snail-mail letter.

2. The $5,000 demand bears in no relationship to any damages that Youngson could have for a page that maybe had 200 views on it. I deleted the photo after I got the initial paperwork.

Absolutely correct  The $5K number is made up and arbitrary. We see that number for most people.

3. The whole honeypot scam of labeling the photos for reuse in Google Images when it should be labeled as commercial or reuse with modification since you have to attribute or pay the license.

The Nick Youngson website operation is so shoddy and the wording and disclosures are so bad, I didn't even know it was his website until another victim reported his findings and it compelled me to give a closer look. He promotes his "free images" so hard that people are falling for it left and right and put into a "gotcha" situation.

4. The whole license fee of $10. How can he demand $5,000 in damages when he'll sell the picture for $10?

That is correct. It is far above even the $750 minimum statutory damages assuming he even registers his images.

5. The whole licensing thing is a scam because if you pay the $10, Youngson provides no licensing agreement. When does it start, when does it end? Will he still claim damages from someone who bought a license from him.

I have not heard from anyone paying the $10. Did you pay $10? Is that what you are saying?

6. The people calling you on the phones aren't lawyers. Anyone who ever went to law school would understand their demands aren't reasonable.

Yup, the people on the phones are generally low-level hourly clerks. They do the grunt work.

7. Higbee hasn't sued on this because it would expose the Honeypot scam. There is more money in getting $500 to $1250 settlements from companies who don't know better or don't want to hire an attorney than filing an actual lawsuit.

That is what I have been saying. I rarely call anything a "honeypot" scheme because most victims got their images from Google Images and any number of places.  But with Nick Youngson, he promotes "free" images with crappy disclosures, then nails people for making dumb mistakes on giving credit.

I ignored the calls and I've ignored the threats that they are forwarding this to their litigation team. It's 6 months later. If they wanted to sue me, they would have already.

I agree with you that people should not return calls. In fact, people should save the voice messages. I am interested in hearing more of them. I disagree with you on the rationale of their not filing a lawsuit within 6 months. Many copyright lawsuits are filed between Years 2 & 3 when it becomes clear that months-long efforts to settle have been exhausted. IN particular, Nick Youngson filing a lawsuit is currently unlikely because of the way he operated.  His active promotion of "free" images and lack of clear disclosures is a big problem in my view.

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I can't remember the name of a recent case (I think it was a BWP Media case) where a ruling was issued that a website owner does NOT automatically lose protections simply because a website does not have a DMCA agent. It was stated that the DMCA is a supplement in addition to existing copyright law, it does NOT override or supplant existing copyright laws.

Essentially, a website owner should NOT be liable for what a 3rd-party user posts. But of course, most of us know that it won't stop Masterfile and their ilk from trying to collect money regardless.

Having said that, it is undeniable there is a greater safety/buffer by filing and appointing a DMCA agent.

If you "own" a site that depends on user generated content, it would be in your best interest to to spend the money and file for a "registered agent". This would afford you safe harbor provisions under the DMCA, providing you do it correctly and adhere to the rules contained within.. Unfortunately it would not help you much with the current MF situation.

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Was your email a specific request to hire Oscar and enroll in the Defense Letter Program? I have seen many people's emails over the year and several write "soft emails" asking for help or for Oscar to call them without being specific.  Emails to digitalimagelitigation @ gmail.com are read by a clerk. Generally speaking, if emails are "soft requests" for help, due to the crazy amounts of emails Oscar gets, they go to the bottom of the priority pile and do not get processed.

Without seeing your email request, no one can help you as your post has no name or signature.  You can forward the original request to me (matt30060 / gmail) and let me see it.

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The 3-year statute of limitations applies. Silence for one month means very little given that multiple cases are being worked at any given time. Silence for 6 months doesn't mean a case won't be revived either or has been disregarded.

Unfortunately, for most folks, it is a long wait for the 3-years. We try to provide general news and updates. Generally, speaking smaller defendants and websites are least attractive to pursue because winning a lawsuit with a noncollectable judgment is something most of these copyright collectors don't want.

Some will proudly "brag" about their prior lawsuit track record. But they don't really ever say if money was ever collected.

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Is it like me sometimes thinking an obscure demand letter is "new" when it is actually "old" and already written about on the ELI Forums?  LOL.

I'm sold..shame on me, I must be getting old, as I didn't check this myself..the very basic of research.

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