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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: School tutor
« on: April 06, 2017, 01:45:14 PM »
Getty is typically not overly litigious and given the fact that you appear to have done your part on asserting and pursuing VistaPrint over this matter, I do think even the dumbest Getty numbskull has to take pause.

I would be very surprised if this matter got escalated or pursued given VistaPrint's involvement in all this.

Over the years, we have heard from folks who got nasty letters because they bought website templates from third-party providers that supposedly licensed images for resale which caused a similar mess that you are going through.

And regarding "Getty's" exercising their so-called rights, the victim also has lots of rights and they hate that we discuss "home grown (and entirely legal) remedies" that go outside hiring a lawyer.

That is why we at ELI keep telling people "Get Educated" which does not always mean jumping to THEIR hoops.  You do what you must and move on. You don't let them jerk you around endlessly.

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Syjung,

As Greg has said, this is news to us that Higbee is representing Adlife Marketing as it has been relatively quiet on the Adlife Marketing letters front. I know Greg has made the request of you before I did but I am making the request of you also.

If you could, please email me (matt30060 at gmail) your Higbee letter representing Adlife Marketing and I will make sure your letter gets looked at. The ELI team is definitely interested in this one as both have made some noise individually but never seen a joint effort/collaboration.  For good measure, I will also email a copy to Oscar Michelen for his comments as he will be interested as well.

We will report back here on the ELI Forums for the benefit of our readership.

Hello,

I'm new to the ELI forums and I'm looking for some advice on my situation.  I see some posts related to Higbee Associates and also posts about Adlife Marketing but none of the two together.  My parents own a small deli and received the $8,000 invoice sometime last November over a picture I used to decorate the website.  She didn't know what it was so she threw away the letter and invoice because she did not recall buying anything for that amount thinking it was a mistake.  She said she received it a second time so she called the number but no one picked up so she disregarded it a second time.  It's now April and she received a letter from Higbee & Associates representing "Adlife Marketing & Communications Co. Inc., [...]a photographer who earns a living by licensing his photographs."

So far, I've only researched enough to find ELI Forums and figure out that this is potentially a scam.  I haven't really been able to piece together my next steps from the forums since I lack the knowledge as of right now.  I've been reading the past hour and I'm still unsure where I should begin since no one's situation is exactly like mine.  Can anyone please give me some suggestions or point me in some direction ? I'd really appreciate the help. 

Thank You.

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A recent appeal in Texas has revealed an important defense for those of you who host online forums, blogs, and other websites that permit third-parties to post.  (For example: the ELI Forums.)

Although I "own" the website, many others post here. The general rule of thumb for website owners such as myself is that each person is responsible for what they post and write. I don't allow people to upload images, videos, or documents to the ELI Forums because I don't want the headaches of policing such content. I also don't want to get caught up in the argument that because someone posted things they should not have, someone accuses ME of being responsible for it.

In theory, there are federal laws in place that allow internet service providers (such as little ole me with this forum) to have protections from what end-users post. If that didn't happen, very few people would ever let ANY user post on their website. There would be no Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, Amazon, eBay, or nearly any other website where end-users are involved. It would be too risky for any website owner to permit end-users to participate without those protections in place.

However, the whole copyright thing makes this a bit more complicated with the DMCA provisions. Essentially, the general rule of thumb in dealing with copyright matters is that ISPs are supposed to respond to copyright complaints and those complaints go to a DMCA agent.  But if you are a small website or someone new to the online world, most people are not going to the trouble of registering and setting up a DMCA agent just because someone allows user comments or user content.

In the past, there was some question whether an ISP had "safe harbor" protections if they did NOT have a DMCA agent registered.  This issue has come up a couple of times with ELI readers. And there had been no clear answer only guidelines. Others have taken a stronger stance than I have regarding DMCA agent status for a website owner. It is most certainly the SAFE thing to do, but does that mean you forfeit all your rights if you don't want to spend the money or go through a hassle to setting up a DMCA agent? I was never convinced that someone automatically lost "safe harbor" protections without a DMCA agent.

Well, BWP Media apparently was not satisfied with letting the matter go and they sued a website provider (T&S Software Associates) in a Texas court because one of their users supposedly posted copyrighted images belonging to BWP Media.  The defendant did NOT have a DMCA agent at the time of the supposed infringement by the end-user. There was no accusation by BWP Media that T&S Software Associates committed the supposed copyright infringement. But BWP Media, in its infinite wisdom and persistence to make a money grab, filed suit against T&S Software Associates.

The appellate court provided this case summary:

T&S hosts a website that includes a public forum called “HairTalk.” Users of the forum may post content, share comments, ask questions, and engage in online interactions with other users on a range of topics including hair, beauty, and celebrities. Use of HairTalk is governed by terms of service providing that “any photo containing . . . celebrities . . . or any copyrighted image (unless you own the copyright) is not permitted.” Every time someone logs on to HairTalk, the user must agree to these terms. Also, each page of the website includes a “contact us” link, which allows anyone to contact the website to report objectionable content. During the relevant time period, T&S did not have an agent designated to receive notices of content that should be removed as required to qualify for the statutory safe harbor of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (“DMCA”). The specific section on the protections arising from naming an agent is 17 U.S.C. § 512(c).
 
Plaintiffs BWP Media USA and National Photo Group (collectively, “BWP”) are registered owners of various celebrity photographs. Three photographs owned by BWP were posted by third-party users on HairTalk without BWP’s permission. They depicted Ke$ha, Julianne Hough, and Ashlee Simpson. BWP sued for copyright infringement. The suit claimed that T&S was liable for its users’ infringement because it failed to designate a registered agent under Section 512. T&S learned of the photographs upon commencement of this suit and promptly removed them. The district court granted summary judgment in favor of T&S as to both direct and secondary infringement. BWP appeals the district court’s judgment only as to T&S’s direct-infringement liability.


T&S prevailed in the lower Texas court in that first lawsuit but BWP Media apparent found that ruling by the lower court unsatisfactory and filed an appeal. And to make this easy, the Texas appellate court affirmed (supported) the lower court's decision.

http://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/16-10510/16-10510-2017-03-27.html

It is long reading and I thought it got complicated in places. But a quote jumped out at me:

T&S points out that Section 512 includes a caveat: “The failure of a service provider’s conduct to qualify for limitation of liability under this section shall not bear adversely upon the consideration of a defense by the service provider that the service provider’s conduct is not infringing under this title or any other defense.”

Another quote:

Even though the DMCA was designed to provide ISPs with a safe harbor from copyright liability, nothing in the language of § 512 indicates that the limitation on liability described therein is exclusive. Indeed, [Section 512(l)] provides explicitly that the DMCA is not exclusive . . . . Given that the statute declares its intent not to “bear adversely upon” any of the ISP’s defenses under law, including the defense that the plaintiff has not made out a prima facie case for infringement, it is difficult to argue, as CoStar does, that the statute in fact precludes ISPs from relying on an entire strain of case law holding that direct infringement must involve conduct having a volitional or causal aspect.

MY takeaway that I am sharing with my readers is that we now have a strong appellate case to quote where DMCA Agents are NOT required for a website owner safe-harbor protections against infringing material an end-user may post. It does NOT absolve website owners to promptly respond and takedown infringing content after being notified. But it does absolve website owners for being RESPONSIBLE for what another end-user posted.

BWP Media pushed way too hard and they got spanked TWICE. They were too blinded in their pursuit of money.

Congratulations and thanks to T&S Software Associates for making a stand and defending the case. They are one of the few who were able and willing to fight back.  It could not have been cheap and I suspect that T&S Software Associates will try to recover some costs and legal fees from BWP Media for appealing this case and lost.

So, the moral of the story is, if you are a website owner and some irresponsible end-user recklessly posts copyrighted content, the image owner/artist doesn't get to automatically squeeze money from the website owner even if they don't have a DMCA agent.  Website owners still have safe-harbor protections and defenses. The website owner has the responsibly to removed infringing content ASAP once notified, but NO, they don't have to pay money to the image owner/artist.

It is a clear victory for justice and fairness. And a strike for the overzealous pursuit of money in these types of cases.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: School tutor
« on: April 05, 2017, 02:54:06 PM »
VistaPrint has something to lose. If it turns out that VistaPrint keeps getting customer complaints that they are being wrongfully pursued by Getty Images, it will become a PR nightmare and drive customers away in droves from VistaPrint.

The folks at VistaPrint better hope they see this thread and get on the stick to resolve whatever conflicts/disagreement/issues they might have with Getty Images.

I do think you are on the right track in seeing how VistaPrint responds. I would push the issue with them. In fact, you should warn them that you might consider writing a complaint that warns people if they use an image from VistaPrint, they might get nastiness from Getty Images.

That kind of accusation (IT MUST BE TRUE & SUPPORTED, THOUGH!) would spread like wildfire if VistaPrint doesn't do their part to get to the bottom of it.

But for now, you should let Getty know that you have been in contact with VistaPrint over this matter.

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Let me be clear. I do believe infringements are rampant on the Internet. It is an issue.  I don't really have a problem with folks sending warning or notification letters. But it starts getting in to grey areas when you start demanding and expecting to get money from people out of the blue and start making it into a profit center vs. a stop-loss approach.

And the pursuers regularly LIE with reckless abandon about filing lawsuits, taking legal action, etc.

Youngson (and all artists) have some say over how Higbee works. But they like the easy finances.  Send out a $5,000 letter.  Settle for $3,000. Higbee gets 30% of that take.  Youngson gets the other 70%. See how easy that works?

The problem is in the sausage-making which is something people associated with Higbee and their ilk don't ever want to openly discuss which ELI reports.

We have exposed and shown people the ugliness of the sausage-making activities they engage in. 

If I were to believe his narrative as posted in his timeline, Youngson is extremely misguided or misinformed and the resulting blowback has not been kind to him. Part of the problem is he (as some others) have fallen for the story Higbee has sold.

Want to share some research that seems relevant to me - ignore if this is already well known on these threads.
Please see http://www.nyphotographic.com/about.html (text quoted below in case these guys take the page down)
It is quite evident as per his own documented timeline that Youngson started  releasing images clearly marked as "CC-attribution sharealike" only after Apr 2015 and even as late as Oct/Dec 2015 presumably not all his images were clearly marked. So if you got his images before say Dec 2015, it's likely that they may have been perceived as public domain.
It's a nuance but an important one IMHO.
Thanks.

--- text ---
News

June 2014

Just found lots of my images being used without a license - I am sure these people don't go around stealing things so what is it about images that makes them feel they can help themselves?

July 2015

For those people that insist on using my images without paying I have now released a number on a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license which means they can be used for free as long as certain attribution and license links are provided close to the image, please contact me for further details.

October 2015

More images released on a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike license - a lot of people are following the terms of the license but a lot aren't and just helping themselves to the images so to those people don't use my images without the correct attribution or else paying for them.

December 2015

I am spending my days locating my images that are being used without a valid license, emailing people asking them to pay the license fee and most are ignoring me.

I am now thoroughly fed up with this situation so as from now any site using my images without a valid license and being used to promote a service, I am going to pass straight to my attorney to deal with. I can't be expected to spend my days emailing people infringing my copyright only to get ignored or abused so now they can deal with my attorney.

This only applies to web sites being run to promote a service such as legal services, banks, real estate companies etc - people who should know better than to ignore licensing requirements. Often these sites are managed by professional web site designers who are presumably charging their clients for adding my images to the client's sites without a license!

Sites run by individuals not promoting a service will continue to receive an email asking them for my standard license fee of a few dollars.

April 2016

My advisers have recommended I become incorporated so I now trade as a UK Limited company but everything else remains the same - you can see the company details on my contact page.

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That is the power of the ELI community. We have different people who come in out of nowhere who are inspired by our "fightback and creative learn-to-think" attitude.

Case in point, nycopyrightabuse came out of nowhere. Never met them or heard of them. But suddenly, there is all this information, research, and commentary that compelled me to give the Youngson situation a second, closer look.

And even the debate about paying $100 to do copyright registration searches is helpful to readers as I think it rarely comes up.  So everyone benefits from the discussion.

The two most important things people need to get is:  Get Educated and Get an Attitude.  When you get these two things under your belt, people won't fall and get lost into the rabbit holes and diversionary tactics that copyright collection folks use.

Most people think the pursuers don't have anything to lose by using questionable or egregious tactics pursuing people with reckless abandon. They do!  Anyone that doesn't believe what I say can go Google Righthaven and Prenda Law.  They were brought down by the collective effort of outraged people and put out of business.

There are other parties ELI has discussed previously whom I will not name that have exited the business. They were pretty happy to take advantage of people's legal ignorance and use some scummy tactics but then when they were called out on it and exposed, they didn't last long.

People inherently know what is fair and not fair, reasonable and not reasonable.  And there is no question that the team of Higbee/Youngson sending out $5,000 letters over $10 images (or free with attribution) is unreasonable. If any knowledgeable judge saw this in a court case, the Higbee/Youngson team would have a LOT to defend and might even get reprimanded for bringing in a lawsuit of this kind into their court.

All it takes is for Higbee/Youngson to hit the wrong person to set off a chain reaction.

Matthew and @buddhapi - thanks for your notes. Just want to close this out re. the image search.
I guess you guys see this  day in, day out so it is quite evident to you :) but it's not as obvious to many of us, hence the questions.

" It is well known that copyright registration/listing system is woefully inadequate." - no, I did not know this, pretty much trusted it would have accurate records. Oh well.

And " But what if they say, it's a mistake then offer up another registration for you?" - yes, I suppose they  could do this. I assumed it was "Due diligence" on my part to verify their claims. Saw that others like nycopyrightabuse are also doing this and have even asked Higbee to provide the images included in the registration, which they seem to have refused.

"I am not sure you understand how the extortion scheme works or what is being said to you. Many people who successfully fight and resist their letters use far simpler strategies than trying to comb through the copyright registration system." -
not as much as many on this forum, but I do understand it and have spoken to Matthew and Oscar about it too, in addition to speaking with copyright lawyers and litigation lawyers (dealing with it for a few months now). I have not come across any simpler strategies  than "wait it out and see if they file a lawsuit, or join Oscar's defense letter program (in my case he himself advised against it for now), or hire an attorney to send a letter and/or negotiate a settlement". If there are other strategies you have shared elsewhere on this forum, please do point me to them.
For now I have not spent the $100.
Thanks!

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It isn't illegal to call someone. However, it becomes a grey area if you actually instruct someone in writing to cease-and-desist making phone calls to you.

Phone calls have been reported and written about. It doesn't come up often because most don't bother to go down that road.  Higbee is a growing operation and they are persistent but we have discovered glaring credibility issues. Higbee touts itself as a "national law firm" by renting or utilizing virtual addresses, for example.

I am not going to re-write it but there are a couple of posts somewhere where I wrote about how to deal with unwanted phone calls. Honestly, it is an epidemic beyond the whole extortion letter issue.  People phone spam me every day and I despise it.  Emails and phone calls. You might have to use the custom Google search bar above the forum.

Mathew Chan

Glad to contribute to the community.  But, I got a question of my own.  I got a call on my cell from a case manager for Higbee and Assocs.  I don't know how they got my cell number.  Is this legal?  My phone was charging at the time and it went to voice mail which I deleted.  This is a new wrinkle.  I don't answer any calls that I don't know.  It's been my practice for a long time.   So npted the call and will keep a log of any future calls to go along with the file I'm keeping on Higbee of all communications.  Has anybody else received calls to your cell?   

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I am going to reiterate a few points (only my opinion).

1. It appears that Higbee has been recklessly and irresponsibly "collecting" and "extorting" without vetting his client. I am quite confident that most judges would NOT be sympathetic to Youngson's shenanigans of making $10 images available for commercial use under Creative Commons but if someone goofs up the attribution, a supposed infringer is now liable for $5,000.  There is no formula, rhyme, or reason that they will be able to explain.  They might say "ohh... we don't actually collect $5,000".  Which means that it was an INTENTIONAL LIE and fraud to begin with on their fishing expeditions when they sent out the $5,000 invoices!

2.  One thing that I see as potentially liable is the apparent zeal to disseminate Youngson's $10 images using misleading domain names capitalizing on the phrase "creative commons".  Hence, it is a honeypot.  This zeal in Youngson's attempt to disseminate and distribute his own images but then goes to Higbee and screams "INFRINGEMENT" is disengenous. Only recently is there even a half-ass attempt at disclosure. There is still no warning whatsoever that he will nail any users with a $5,000 collection effort for not making the proper attributions.

3.  Personally, if Youngson and Higbee ever decide to file suit on anyone, a counter-suit might be worth considering and responding to the their abusing the legal process (like the criminals at Prenda) taking legal advantage of the situation and profiting from the honeypot vs. a legitimate attempt to curtail illicit infringements.

4. I have spoken to a couple of people and we still have not seen anything that shows any good faith on Youngson's part.  It looks to be a very convenient money-making honeypot scam using $10 low value images.  It is low-value because the photographer prices it at near free prices. And DOES give it away with attributions.

5. It is pretty well known many copyright troll lawyers commit many ethically challenging actions. From everything I see, Higbee has been taking advantage of Youngson's honeypot setup and foolishly sending out boilerplate $5,000 letters (without vetting how Youngson does his work) that has little or not justification to the actual value of the photo.  And they should compare their experiences to the California state bar in which Higbee is based at.

If I were on the receiving end of these letters, I would not be so quick to roll over without gathering the information history of the last 2 years.

As far as I am concerned everyone should be paying close to attention and getting screenshots for their own records.


Hello, here is an update on Nicholas Youngson.

He has continued to build new websites in order to clear ELI references from search results related to his name.

But he has notably made one massive change to his websites that offer "free" CC images - he now has a disclaimer at the top with more clear language on his mirror websites.

See the screenshot below from bluediamondgallery.com.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ZbRXn38e7SLTdTT2h1amRBNVE/view?usp=sharing

He has also disabled "jphotostyle.com" and routed it to http://creative-commons-images.com.

It seems that the confusion created with his "licensing" has prompted action. Let's hope that it's more clear now to other innocent people looking for images.

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This is a very good find and insightful. It seems likely this will get taken down at some point, so I am posting the text here so everyone can get the full and proper context.

==================

Case Manager- Full Time
Santa Ana, California, United States Full-time

National law firm seeks a qualified copyright case manager with a great work ethic to join its team in the firm's Santa Ana, CA office.

ABOUT THE LAW FIRM
We are a rapidly growing law firm with 70+ employees and in our 10th year. The law firm's goal is to not only have you play an important role in its success, but to also provide you with opportunities to develop your professional skills and be a part of a team of employees who have fun while working to solve problems for our clients.

DUTIES & RESPONSIBILITIES:
- Call opposing parties to collect overdue payments
- Call opposing parties to negotiate settlements
-Provide above and beyond customer support to clients
-Correspond with opposing parties and attorneys via e-mail, telephone, and postal mail
-Explain the nature of copyright laws & negotiate settlements with opposing parties.
-Follow up with non responsive opposing parties
-Complete research and perform screening of cases
-Maintain task lists and procedures
-Miscellaneous tasks, including mail, emails, and voicemails
 
REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:
- Experience with debt collections or sales
-Bachelor's degree
-Strong research, written, and verbal communication skills
-Be organized, detail-oriented, and able to work well under pressure and deadlines
-Be able to multitask and interact with others professionally
-Be able to take initiative and work as part of a team
-Proficient with Microsoft Excel
-Ability to navigate web pages and work with web links including saving important Information from various websites.

SALARY AND BENEFITS:
- $18-$21 per hour, depending on experience
- Modest performance bonuses
- Medical benefits
- 401K after year one
- Paid vacation days after year one

IMPORTANT NOTE:
H&A is a dog friendly office. Those who are not comfortable around dogs or who have dog allergies should be advised that there are typically 3 or more dogs roaming the office.

IMPORTANT LEGAL MUMBO-JUMBO
We are an equal opportunity employer, meaning that we do not discriminate in favor of or against anyone based on age, race, religion, gender, ethnicity or any other legally protected class. Job description, duties and hours are subject to change. This is an at-will position.


Higbee and Associates are paying people $18 to $21 for case managers aka non lawyers to handle  their extortion letter operation Here is the link https://higbeeassociates.recruiterbox.com/jobs/fk06756

Any thoughts?

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I was looking for corporate information on ArtistDefense Inc. However, I can find no corporate registration for them in Canada in the Government of Canada Federal Corporation search.

https://www.ic.gc.ca/app/scr/cc/CorporationsCanada/fdrlCrpSrch.html?locale=en_CA

I can find a listing for Masterfile Corporation and Masterfile International Holdings Corporation but no "ArtistDefense Inc." in the Canadian corporations database.

My question: Is ArtistDefense Inc. truly a new Canadian corporation or is that a lie Masterfile is peddling? 

Based on the lack of corporation registration, ArtistDefense Inc. is NOT a corporation. In the U.S., you generally cannot use "Inc" or "Corp" as part of your business name if it has not been registered and incorporated.  I suspect the rules governing corporate names in Canada is similar to those in the U.S.

Until I get some new information to the contrary, ArtistDefense Inc. might just be a fake corporation Masterfile is peddling to make themselves look better.

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After years of operating under their own name, Masterfile has emulated Getty Images and launched their equivalent and supposedly "separate" LCS type of operation by forming ArtistDefense Inc.

http://www.artistdefense.com/

It appears that ArtistDefense's mission is to carryout Masterfile's copyright extortion operation. This is how ArtistDefense (AD) describe themselves in a recent ArtistDefense extortion letter that I have seen.

Who is ArtistDefense?

ArtistDefense acts on behalf of copyright owners such as Masterfile to help them enforce and protect the copyrights in their images. On behalf of Masterfile, ArtistDefense monitors the Internet for potential unauthorized uses of Masterfile's images. When Masterfile notifies us that a reported use is unauthorized, ArtistDefense will pursue the claim on behalf of Masterfile. ArtistDefense is authorized by Masterfile to negotiate settlements of copyright infringement claims and refer claims that it cannot resolve to legal counsel.


In fact, a familiar name is on the letters. His name is Geoffrey Beal! Long time readers will know this winning name. His title on the letter is "Copyright Compliance Officer".

Of course, we know their idea of "compliance" is not simply taking down the image but collecting BIG ASS MONEY. As much as they can get from the letter recipients.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: LCS Trunk Archive Follow Up Letter
« on: March 31, 2017, 04:12:26 AM »
Allow me to possibly simplify things here.  I always give a disclaimer that things can always change, but as far as I know, LCS generally represent smaller clients (other agencies and photographers). As such, I have not heard of any LCS client filing lawsuits on anyone.

For the moment, LCS threats are fairly harmless but they will certainly be persistent and annoying.  I tend to believe that having a good strong (non-bluff) response on file goes a long way to dissuading LCS and others from coming after you incessantly.

I do get emails who report in the results of their cases.  It appears there are some letter recipients who get VERY ANGRY and have very hostile attitudes about being wrongfully pursued for an extortionate amount (especially when people read all the stories on this forum).  And those people have "threatened" the employees of reporting them and their companies to various agencies.

In a sense, they have adopted a "Greg Troy" type of strategy where they "threaten" to retaliate by REPORTING THEM aggressively and being very vocal and outspoken.

I think those kinds of "threats" are a bit iffy for many people as I don't think people can actually carry it out and it might be considered a bluff. However, for some people, it ain't a bluff and it is effective in creating all kinds of headaches for the accused even if it is Getty Images. All one has to do is contact the Washington State Attorney General for the hundreds of complaints they have collected on Getty Images the last 10 years.

Being on the receiving end of a hostile victim who wants to retaliate and feels they have been wronged and being taken advantaged of is not a pleasant experience. And I have heard of some cases where companies have backed off based on the aggravation factor of trying to collect.

Again, this is anecdotal reporting, not actual data. But it is worth considering, if some people are truly pissed off.  Directed non-physical anger definitely has its place. Time has shown being nice and acting like low-hanging fruit is NOT helpful or advantageous.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: School tutor
« on: March 31, 2017, 03:49:35 AM »
Figaro14,

If your image came from Vistaprint and you have informed Getty Images of this, Getty has a duty to check to see if that image was, in fact, licensed to Vistaprint.

It would be very foolish for Getty to take any meaningful legal action while this cloud of uncertainty exists.  Getty automatically gets lots of negative publicity for lawsuits.  Adding the cloud of Vistaprint sourcing your image will make them look like schmucks.

But the lower ranks really don't care much as they now hide their names. But the lawyers who actually have to put their names on any lawsuit will probably think twice.

All in all, Getty generally doesn't want bad PR of this kind.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Agence France Presse
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:11:56 PM »
LCS is not the party that owns the infringed material. AS such, they are telling a lie LCS can't sue. However, the folks they represent could sue but I haven't seen one LCS client actually escalate to lawsuit status yet. It doesn't mean it can't or won't happen.  But LCS has been a round a few years now and we haven't heard of it yet.

And regarding the check you mailed, why did it bounce back? Was it a bad address?

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Hansmeier is now being investigated for bankruptcy fraud. It looks like his bankruptcy discharge will be reversed given the fraud involved.

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170318/00521636943/things-looking-even-worse-prendas-paul-hansmeier-bankruptcy-fraud-deck.shtml

It is unbelievable reading his story.  I am not sure I could even attempt to get in that much trouble if I wanted to. You heard of compound interest in financial circles?  Well, he is getting compound interest in the legal world.

How many different ways can this guy be stupid? The guy just didn't know when to quit.

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