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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Letter from Getty on a screenshot
« on: July 02, 2012, 03:36:31 PM »
This isn't an infringement, if the image was actually hosted by a third party.
Getty can't do much about it.

See:
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/just-recieved-a-getty-letter-today/

S.G.


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I'd participate in the discussion, except that I don't want to type in all the same stuff again.

S.G.



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There has been tons of prior discussion in this regard.
Search for "trespass to chattels", etc.

S.G.

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Yeah, I agree with Moe.

I always get a chuckle over the 'Brits and their "strict liability tort", though.  You know, before it's actually a "tort".
I can't wait until Getty starts using that term... you know... without even offering any proof of their claim.

S.G.



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I agree with you.

It's just that it's difficult to make an actual legal defense using moral values. (lol)
People have to understand the issues and make the law work for them.

But, yes, pursuing fairness and getting rid of the loopholes that the crooks use will help in the longer term.

S.G.



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I believe that Microsoft's license agreement forbids one from using its content (or third party content) in ways other than intended.
Nor would the pathname to where the files are located give one a legal right to use the images in other ways.

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At this point, it's difficult to say if the Tylor/H.A.N. images that you pointed out are a result of their direct act of seeding,
or that somebody else thought that the images were "free" (also due to Tylor/H.A.N. seeding) and placed them on the site.

I did notice that when the third "Hawaiian" wallpaper is clicked on, it goes to another site with a message that it has been taken down due to a DMCA complaint.

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"HowToGeek.com" could be held liable if there was enough evidence.
Right now, there's a tendency for the trolls to go after mom-and-pop end users and bloggers, though.

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It should be noted that there is no legal onus on anyone to warn others as to the copyright status of any content.
It is the duty of the end user to ensure that any content that he/she uses is in conformance of the law.
A company or person that sells a faulty or phony license / product could be held liable, as the consumer did his/her due diligence by obtaining a license in good faith.

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As usual, the best defense for a Getty victim is to determine that Getty doesn't own the rights to the image.
They usually don't, and that's a fast solution to the problem.

S.G.


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In my particular case, the image resides in:

c:\windows\globalization\MCT\MCT-US\US-wp2.jpg

S.G.


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Getty actually filed a couple of lawsuit in Canada many years ago; I don't think that these suits went anywhere.
So, they can sue here; they'd have to get a Canadian lawyer, and work with Canadian laws.
They do have a couple of Canadian lawyers that they use to send threatening letters.

It's interesting that you received a demand from NCS.  I thought that it was illegal for collection agencies to pester people over claims that aren't actual debts in Canada.
I'm guessing that NCS in the 'states sent you this?  It's illegal.

Anyway, the likelihood of this going ANYWHERE is close to zero.

I posted the following previously, which I feel is the best defense against Getty for Canadians at this time (if you need a defense):

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"Innocent infringement" is an angle that could work for you if necessary. Again, Getty usually doesn't own the actual copyrights to their content.
That is, they not do have the copyright registrations in their name, nor exclusive contracts with the artists in most cases.  Consider the following:

"Registration, while not necessary, provides certain presumptions that are useful if the copyright is litigated and prevents any person from relying on the defence of “innocent infringement” (i.e., where the infringer did not know and had no reason to suspect that copyright existed in the work). If there is no registration, an infringer who successfully proves the defence of innocent infringement could be prohibited from further copying but would not be liable for damages." from page 66:

http://www.osler.com/uploadedFiles/News_and_Resources/Publications/Guides/Doing_Business_in_Canada_-_2011/DBIC-Chapter13.pdf

There's nothing to stop anyone from asking for "Statutory Damages". However, the above would likely nullify this option.

Keep in mind here that we're talking about Canada.  So, a US registration counts for nothing.

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Getty has nothing registered with the Candian Copyright office the last time that I checked.

S.G.



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The image lists copyright as "Ron & Patty Thomas/Getty".

A case like this is a lot like taking a photo of your new living room suite, and an art print hanging on your wall just happens to be in the photoframe.
The author of the print would never get any money.
Getty will never get any actual traction on this, and they know it.  They're just on their usual phishing expedition.

S.G.



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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Masterfile Letter
« on: June 29, 2012, 02:28:57 PM »
Thanks Bekka!!  Nice to see you on here!!  Here's a field guide:

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/4238/waspfly.jpg

S.G.


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Here's a link to a prior discussion.
I always refer to older discussions when possible because many of these were quite in-depth, and Oscar had more participation at that time.
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/getty-images-gets-a-taste-of-its-own-medicine/

Additionally, Buddhapi posted a link to an article discussing Getty's insurance program:
http://www.fastmediamagazine.com/blog/2010/05/17/getty-images-lauches-stockphotorights-com/

The thing that people need to keep in mind is that if there's a legal dispute, 10k won't even cover your legal costs.
If you can get Getty/iStock to settle the dispute for less than that, then it might be ok.

S.G.


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The Getty Images brand has offered something like this for some time.
There's a prior discussion on the forum.

Actually, this "insurance" isn't enough to cover some of the latest extortion demands.
So, it's actually a method of limiting their liability, while making it seems as if they're offering sufficient "protection".

S.G.


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I have that image on my HTPC (Win 7) as well...
I'll check it out tomorrow...

S.G.


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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Masterfile Letter
« on: June 28, 2012, 11:08:55 PM »
Point well taken!  However, this is a topic that's come up dozens of times.
It's worthwhile to search the forum a bit; there's lots of postings about it.
Here's a few to get started on; pay special attention to the first entry.

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/fair-debt-collection-practices-act-(eli-highlights)/
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/collections/
http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/uk-getty-images-letter-forum/help!-debt-collection-letter-arrived/

As Oscar might say, "Here endeth the lesson".  Again, don't underestimate the rich collection of previous discussions.

You ask, "What has he done to deal with it"?  To whom are you referring?

S.G.


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