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Messages - Jerry Witt (mcfilms)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Image on Getty is no longer available
« on: February 06, 2012, 07:01:15 PM »
Is it by any chance the fourth from the last image on this page?

http://fotobank.ru/creative/2404.html?page=573

If so, someone else claims to represent it. (They might just be a Getty broker. But you can still inquire what they would charge to license it for a year or two.)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Invalidate response
« on: February 06, 2012, 06:42:26 PM »
Matt-
I'm not under the illusion that I will have a constructive argument! I suspect Getty will never write 'sorry, you're right. We are wrong. We've decided not to pursue this." Instead, at some point, Getty will just go silent just as they did in your case. 

I'm very glad to have your forum where I can report communications as we exchange them.  I plan to live forever, but one never knows. I know that by reporting as the case progresses, future trollees can have access to information describing Getty's current M.O.

I actually suspect that you will get a call or email from Sam Brown or someone at GI in the next couple months with a terse statement of "Getty Images is no longer pursuing this claim."

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Invalidate response
« on: February 06, 2012, 12:05:57 PM »
In the future, can you ask Getty to cc [email protected]?

;)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: It Could Be Fun!
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:31:56 PM »
And please know that I mean "crazy redneck" with the deepest respect.

;)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: It begs the question...
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:30:40 PM »
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For what it's worth, the troller and trollee have equal rights to  not-disclose their evidence. 

Although this is true, I believe it would have more of a negative effect for the plaintiff to not disclose the registration than the defendant. If the plaintiff withheld it the judge is going to wonder why they forced it to go to court. If the defendant withholds it, I believe it will be seen more as part of the defense strategy and its existence helps the defendant's case in a major way.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: It begs the question...
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:23:58 PM »
jjones,

I'm not sure if you are replying to me. I understand what you said. My reply was to annalise's question:

Why in the world would a troller ask to see copyright info/registration a trollee claims to have from another source?

I'm not "taking their side." I'm just saying if you look at it from their point of view and  they believe their claim was legit, you would follow up on this other claim. Sometimes the answers to questions become self-evident if you look at it from the point of view of your adversary.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Settlement Offers
« on: February 04, 2012, 02:12:19 PM »
... not only did she negotiate amicable settlements, she excelled at turning infringers into customers...

That is hilarious.

I can't imagine anyone subjected to Getty's strong-arm tactics would ever, ever use them again.

Just this week I had a customer that wanted to use microstock for his site. I purposefully steered him away from iStock (a Getty company) to Pond5. We got down to the last image and he really wanted this one from iStock. Finally I said, "Look, if you want it, you are going to have to buy it. I cannot do business with them." And I related my whole story. He ended up getting the Pond5 image instead.

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This time I get to be way out ahead of the curve. Check out my post from August 2011:

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/can-we-start-a-%27success-mission-accomplished%27-thread-for-success-stories/msg2872/#msg2872

That story from the Seattle Weekly is about 7 pages long and goes into a great deal about the antics used so far.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: It Could Be Fun!
« on: February 04, 2012, 01:57:21 PM »
I love this letter. It will be interesting to see what happens next. I suspect your issue will get shuffled off to the bottom of the pile. No sense taking on the crazy redneck that is ready to go toe to toe. Please do keep us posted.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: It begs the question...
« on: February 04, 2012, 01:50:19 PM »
Okay, I'll play along.

If it were me and I did own the copyright, I would CLEARLY want to see who else is claiming to own it and why. That's a pretty big infringement and you would be derelict to NOT try and find out who is doing this.

Come on now.

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Oh no problem. I WILL be naked.

LOL

(baum-chika-wah-wah)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Settlement Offers
« on: February 03, 2012, 03:47:21 PM »
I should have figured this was already covered. And Oscar offers up better (and let's just say probably more legally sound) advice.

There was someone on her a couple months back that sounded on the verge of suicide and talking about how this would wipe them out. I guess I had them in mind when i wrote that.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Settlement Offers
« on: February 03, 2012, 01:17:57 PM »

Believe it or not, the brokest people really have the least to worry about in these cases. I keep hearing from people how broke they are and how they can't pay.  Well, that actually works to your benefit if it is the truth.  If I was broke, I would simply tell them that.  You can go spend thousands of dollars to come after me but if my monthly checking account hovers around $200 per month, there is not much to get.

Exactly. There is such a thing as "judgment proof." And although I don't advocate it as your sole defense, I believe it strikes terror into the heart of prosecuting attorneys.

Basically, if you work freelance, there is no paycheck to garnish. If you are retired or collecting social security garnishment is not possible. Keep in mind that if you do get a job over the next 7 years, they would be able to garnish your paycheck (up to 25%). And also not paying this debt will ding your credit.

On the flip side, will your adversary want to waste time going to court, risk loosing, be forced to produce a bunch of contracts and documents, all for a judgment that will go unpaid?

This may not make them walk away. But I think any reasonable offer you make has to be presented to their client. So without admitting guilt, in the interest of ending this amicably, make a low-ball offer*.  Tell the attorney that when he presents your offer to his client to be sure to mention that you are pretty much judgment proof and broke and you will be putting this payment on your credit card or selling your bicycle to pay for it.

*BTW, what "low-ball" is depends on the stock agency involved, the registration status of the image, the current and previous license price, comparable image prices,  and the prevalence of the image all over the Internet. In most cases I'm thinking $10 to $200, probably $50 most of the time.)



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Interesting. Well I'll have to redact what I stated earlier. I'm curious how an American Express, McGraw-Hill, or such company got hold of such an image. Was it through the stock footage agency? Once one of these suits was filed, why would the company continue to sell it?

And although taking one's own picture always seems to be the answer for avoiding buying stock, there are clearly other landmines. Taking a picture of a sculpture, work of art or a public structure could land you in court. Using a trademarked icon or logo could land you in court.

That does it. From now I am illustrating all my blogs with stick figures and pictures of myself.

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Yeah, that seems like an exaggeration. I wonder how many cases Mr. Psihoyos has really been involved in. It seems to me that a case of Hollywood-style boasting had ended up turning around and biting him in the bottom.

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