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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: "Voices of Jupiter Florida" Discussion Thread
« on: February 19, 2017, 11:56:49 PM »
Okay, it was quiet for awhile but people are all stirred up again.
As of this writing, there are now 48 posts on VOJF, all of them devoted to ridiculously slut-shaming Robert, his family, and friends. In most of them, the original stated objective was to have CRT entirely taken down. It seems quite obvious Robert is NOT going to take down CRT.
January 25's "A New Beginning" was supposed to be "anonymous" Joelsica's attempt to "resolve" the "conflict":
We would ask at no future time will our names be attached to anything negative by you or your hero members under any circumstances. Our requests are simple but our commitment to your follow through will not waiver.
The problem with this is that the author of VOJF has never publicly admitted or confessed to being the author of VOJF. (Although the collected evidence so far suggests it is Joel himself doing the writing/blogging/emailing.) To admit or confess would automatically throw out the premise of VOJF being about Jupiter Florida. No, it is all about bashing Robert and his family/friends. He would also have to admit to fighting dirty by going after friends/family. He would have to admit to impersonating at least one woman (Jessica), maybe two (Marissa.)
Robert, understandably perturbed, makes a small mention of Brendon (who was an executive at Adlife) and his sister here on on ELI so that Joel gets a tiny taste of the three dozen posts Joelsica made on VOJF about him, his family/friends. Then Joelsica gets all upset and spits out two posts on Feb. 10 & 11 before going silent again. My guess is that Joelsica either got busy or perhaps did not want to provoke Robert further and went silent again.
Of course, we have a new blow-up on VOJF because Robert wrote ONE respectful and considerate open letter to Brendon. As far as I am concerned, it was way more respectful and considerate than the three dozen other posts Joelsica wrote.
Yes, let's have a VOJF blow-up because Robert wrote ONE open letter to Brendon. As far as I can see, Robert didn't EXCEED or overstep any boundaries. And certainly not anything that wasn't done excessively worse by Joelsica himself 40 times beforehand. In fact, if people read the VOJF posts MOST are open letters to Robert's wife, son, and/or Jupiter associates. But Joelsica is going to be upset with ONE open letter conveniently ignoring the 40 "open posts" to Robert's family/associates.
However, there is an interesting turn. On Feb. 17, there are 3 memes shown of Joel, Linda Ellis, and John Jolin (Linda's one time assistant) with the excerpts below:
We are a group of parents who are business men and women. Not one person, but many, committed to change what must be changed. In this case at times your are in focus. Not from a personal vantage point, but because you made us focus on you. That is why we wrote about you.
Today you stand at the crossroads of good and bad. You can remove all that is about the three victims above on CRT and Extortion Letter and we will close up shop and delete VOJF at 7:00 pm today.
If not at 7:00 pm our articles like yours will continue tonight at 9:00 pm and you are welcome to give us all you have, and please expect, all that and more in return.
Firstly, there appears to be a confession of sorts on why VOJF is so focused on Robert. The memes! The excerpts seem to suggest that VOJF was the collective effort of Joel, Linda, and John. That is VERY INTERESTING because Linda denied being the author of VOJF. John seems to be incidental to VOJF but Joelsica has latched on to the penis meme and attempting to "save" John.
Secondly, today (Feb. 19) Joelsica posted a screen shot of Robert's FB page fussing about Robert's 1-star rating of Adlife Marketing. However, that screen shot INCLUDES a photo of Robert's FB account from the PERSPECTIVE of Joel's FB account! How do we know this? Joel's smiling photo and name was on the upper right hand corner of that screenshot! (It has since been replaced with a screenshot that has been cropped. However, a few of us captured Joel's smiling face on the original FB screenshot BEFORE it was cropped.)
If it wasn't Joel himself making that VOJF post, it must be that someone sat on Joel's computer and screenshotted it or someone hacked into Joel's FB account to screenshot Robert's FB account!
Between the fake Jessica Langston FB account which appears to be shut down by FB itself, references to Pawtucket Rhode Island Verizon Business IP address, and now this recent screenshot of Joel's Facebook account, it all but solidifies our group's assertion that Joel is behind VOJF.
Writer Joelsica appears retired for the moment. However, "Marissa Davenport" rises from the ashes of "Jessica Langston" sending emails to people. So, we now have "Joelrissa" writing posts and emails on behalf of VOJF.
So, where does this all go? Into the gutter. Even further down. VOJF is old news and the mystery of who is behind VOJF is solved to my (and others) satisfaction. The purpose of VOJF is pretty clear: Slut-shame and tag Robert, his family, and friends.
All I can say is that between CRT and VOJF, there is no contest. CRT is a blog that covers copyright trolling and the people who do it. VOJF is "self-evident".
I would venture to say that Joelsica/Joelrissa will continue making daily posts to his heart's content and pay $20/month ($240/month) to Squarespace for that privilege. But it seems likely that Robert is not going to back down and NO ONE in Jupiter FL gives a shit about VOJF. But "Marissa" can continue sending her emails into the Jupiter FL vacuum. Marissa might get better results emailing Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
This is a losing and embarrassing PR battle for CEO Joel. The singular focus of VOJF paints Joelsica/Joelrissa in a much sillier and embarrassing light upon himself than anything that he has highlighted about Robert or CRT so far. Honestly, people know hard core porn when they see it. Trying to attribute Robert or CRT to porn is downright silly. And regarding occasional profanity on CRT? It isn't a kids website and no one cares about the occasional inappropriate word. And this harping about Trish supporting her husband of 20+ years because he wrote some insulting or politically-incorrect statements on a niche blog? Can we say "Hillary Clinton" or any other woman who stood by their husbands for doing far more egregious things? Trish ain't going to divorce Robert over this! Does that even need to be said? And what is the crack about where Bryce lives? Because Robert mentioned Brendon? Brendon is much more higher profile, was an Adlife executive, and far more established than Bryce for gods sake.
Honestly, if Robert decides to get off the "high-road" and go the "low-road" (which no one is encouraging), no one is going to chastise Robert for doing so given the 48 other disgusting VOJF posts. As far as I am concerned, people will be MORE SYMPATHETIC to Robert the harder VOJF goes on the bullshit tags and attacks of innocents.
As of this writing, there are now 48 posts on VOJF, all of them devoted to ridiculously slut-shaming Robert, his family, and friends. In most of them, the original stated objective was to have CRT entirely taken down. It seems quite obvious Robert is NOT going to take down CRT.
January 25's "A New Beginning" was supposed to be "anonymous" Joelsica's attempt to "resolve" the "conflict":
We would ask at no future time will our names be attached to anything negative by you or your hero members under any circumstances. Our requests are simple but our commitment to your follow through will not waiver.
The problem with this is that the author of VOJF has never publicly admitted or confessed to being the author of VOJF. (Although the collected evidence so far suggests it is Joel himself doing the writing/blogging/emailing.) To admit or confess would automatically throw out the premise of VOJF being about Jupiter Florida. No, it is all about bashing Robert and his family/friends. He would also have to admit to fighting dirty by going after friends/family. He would have to admit to impersonating at least one woman (Jessica), maybe two (Marissa.)
Robert, understandably perturbed, makes a small mention of Brendon (who was an executive at Adlife) and his sister here on on ELI so that Joel gets a tiny taste of the three dozen posts Joelsica made on VOJF about him, his family/friends. Then Joelsica gets all upset and spits out two posts on Feb. 10 & 11 before going silent again. My guess is that Joelsica either got busy or perhaps did not want to provoke Robert further and went silent again.
Of course, we have a new blow-up on VOJF because Robert wrote ONE respectful and considerate open letter to Brendon. As far as I am concerned, it was way more respectful and considerate than the three dozen other posts Joelsica wrote.
Yes, let's have a VOJF blow-up because Robert wrote ONE open letter to Brendon. As far as I can see, Robert didn't EXCEED or overstep any boundaries. And certainly not anything that wasn't done excessively worse by Joelsica himself 40 times beforehand. In fact, if people read the VOJF posts MOST are open letters to Robert's wife, son, and/or Jupiter associates. But Joelsica is going to be upset with ONE open letter conveniently ignoring the 40 "open posts" to Robert's family/associates.
However, there is an interesting turn. On Feb. 17, there are 3 memes shown of Joel, Linda Ellis, and John Jolin (Linda's one time assistant) with the excerpts below:
We are a group of parents who are business men and women. Not one person, but many, committed to change what must be changed. In this case at times your are in focus. Not from a personal vantage point, but because you made us focus on you. That is why we wrote about you.
Today you stand at the crossroads of good and bad. You can remove all that is about the three victims above on CRT and Extortion Letter and we will close up shop and delete VOJF at 7:00 pm today.
If not at 7:00 pm our articles like yours will continue tonight at 9:00 pm and you are welcome to give us all you have, and please expect, all that and more in return.
Firstly, there appears to be a confession of sorts on why VOJF is so focused on Robert. The memes! The excerpts seem to suggest that VOJF was the collective effort of Joel, Linda, and John. That is VERY INTERESTING because Linda denied being the author of VOJF. John seems to be incidental to VOJF but Joelsica has latched on to the penis meme and attempting to "save" John.
Secondly, today (Feb. 19) Joelsica posted a screen shot of Robert's FB page fussing about Robert's 1-star rating of Adlife Marketing. However, that screen shot INCLUDES a photo of Robert's FB account from the PERSPECTIVE of Joel's FB account! How do we know this? Joel's smiling photo and name was on the upper right hand corner of that screenshot! (It has since been replaced with a screenshot that has been cropped. However, a few of us captured Joel's smiling face on the original FB screenshot BEFORE it was cropped.)
If it wasn't Joel himself making that VOJF post, it must be that someone sat on Joel's computer and screenshotted it or someone hacked into Joel's FB account to screenshot Robert's FB account!
Between the fake Jessica Langston FB account which appears to be shut down by FB itself, references to Pawtucket Rhode Island Verizon Business IP address, and now this recent screenshot of Joel's Facebook account, it all but solidifies our group's assertion that Joel is behind VOJF.
Writer Joelsica appears retired for the moment. However, "Marissa Davenport" rises from the ashes of "Jessica Langston" sending emails to people. So, we now have "Joelrissa" writing posts and emails on behalf of VOJF.
So, where does this all go? Into the gutter. Even further down. VOJF is old news and the mystery of who is behind VOJF is solved to my (and others) satisfaction. The purpose of VOJF is pretty clear: Slut-shame and tag Robert, his family, and friends.
All I can say is that between CRT and VOJF, there is no contest. CRT is a blog that covers copyright trolling and the people who do it. VOJF is "self-evident".
I would venture to say that Joelsica/Joelrissa will continue making daily posts to his heart's content and pay $20/month ($240/month) to Squarespace for that privilege. But it seems likely that Robert is not going to back down and NO ONE in Jupiter FL gives a shit about VOJF. But "Marissa" can continue sending her emails into the Jupiter FL vacuum. Marissa might get better results emailing Trump at Mar-a-Lago.
This is a losing and embarrassing PR battle for CEO Joel. The singular focus of VOJF paints Joelsica/Joelrissa in a much sillier and embarrassing light upon himself than anything that he has highlighted about Robert or CRT so far. Honestly, people know hard core porn when they see it. Trying to attribute Robert or CRT to porn is downright silly. And regarding occasional profanity on CRT? It isn't a kids website and no one cares about the occasional inappropriate word. And this harping about Trish supporting her husband of 20+ years because he wrote some insulting or politically-incorrect statements on a niche blog? Can we say "Hillary Clinton" or any other woman who stood by their husbands for doing far more egregious things? Trish ain't going to divorce Robert over this! Does that even need to be said? And what is the crack about where Bryce lives? Because Robert mentioned Brendon? Brendon is much more higher profile, was an Adlife executive, and far more established than Bryce for gods sake.
Honestly, if Robert decides to get off the "high-road" and go the "low-road" (which no one is encouraging), no one is going to chastise Robert for doing so given the 48 other disgusting VOJF posts. As far as I am concerned, people will be MORE SYMPATHETIC to Robert the harder VOJF goes on the bullshit tags and attacks of innocents.