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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: ELI Video Updates (June 2012) with Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi)

« on: June 06, 2012, 03:22:11 PM »

Fun stuff...
"Testing... check, check... ...check check check..."
"Oscar, pull the high end out..."
"ok..."

lol.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 06, 2012, 03:12:31 PM »

I post on the forum quite a bit, although I'm not involved in the letter program.
Of course, that never stops me from throwing in an opinion.

No matter which lawyer one may retain, he/she will NEVER guarantee anything.

The letter programs works well because 99.99 percent of all demand letters that are dealt with here are trolls.
Specifically, people give in and pay because of the stress and inconvenience placed upon them.
It's not because of the legalities or even "guilt" upon the alleged infringer for the most part.
Getty for instance doesn't own the copyrights to the bulk of its vast catalog.  So, all they can do is harass people into paying.
Retaining a lawyer such as Oscar means that the harassment ends, and the likelihood of anything else ever happening is tiny (unless you have a very large issue at hand).

Considering that most lawyers require a payment of 100 to 150 dollars just for a consultation, the letter program seems like a good deal.

Some people want/need what I call "concierge-style service".  There's a market for that, and people do go that route.
However, unless you have a "big" legal problem, and you're actually going to be sued, that's not really practical for most.

Those are just my thoughts.

p.s. I should add that I've noted the humor inherent in Oscar's posting of the defense directed at Mr Carner/H.A.N.
Especially since Mr Carner asked for an example to be posted.  A case of be careful what you wish for.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: People Who Don't Quite Get It & Ungrateful to Boot (A rant)

« on: June 05, 2012, 11:06:24 PM »

Yes, the post was helpful.
I thought that Masterfile were a little more responsible with their claims than some.
I guess that it really pays to check all the details.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: ELI Video Updates (June 2012) with Robert Krausankas (BuddhaPi)

« on: June 05, 2012, 11:03:45 PM »

Good job, guys!!

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Looking for more info on actual and expected results from defense letter program

« on: June 05, 2012, 08:33:24 PM »

Great documents..!
Any extortion letter recipient reading these will certainly feel a great deal of vindication.
It lays it all out so plainly.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Proof that Ass-Hats Live on Both Sides of the Fence!

« on: June 05, 2012, 06:57:21 PM »

People shouldn't be expected to work for free.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 05, 2012, 02:37:51 PM »

R.I.P Eduard Khill - Trololo
"Official Troll Song".



S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 05, 2012, 02:16:55 PM »

You've made a "double-negative".  English isn't your first language.
Also, stop defending scammers.

http://i52.tinypic.com/15gc9zr.jpg

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 05, 2012, 01:54:58 PM »

"least unsympathetic to Glen" = most sympathetic to Uncle Glen?

I do think that people whom can prove their claims (whether in discussions of law, or discussions of actual cases) gain respect and legitimacy here.
"I'm owed money" and "I want to settle these claims without consulting the law" are not a proof of anything.
In my book, people that come to ELI (or court) and can't prove their claims are trolls.
I actually feel sorry for anybody that respects other people/companies that do this.
The burden of proof is on the "claimant", it's not on me, Budd, Matt, ELI, McFilms, Oscar or anyone else.  If a claim is "legit", step up or fuck off.

Also, although Moe's post was a bit off-topic, I think that people are interested in the man that's behind the most outrageous/aggressive trolling since Riddick/Imageline.
It's like Riddick and Righthaven had an autistic baby that hired a lawyer/rapper with a personality disorder in order to make money on unproven claims.
It's interesting.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A Man of Principal and Not Interest

« on: June 04, 2012, 07:39:21 PM »

EVNL, ironically, there's a good chance that you were never guilty of anything.
I haven't seen any concrete proof that H.A.N. and/or Tylor had any legal standing to collect monies based on copyright infringement.
Nobody (except Tylor and Carner) know what's actually in Tylor's registrations, or if the registrations were done properly.
I should also add that many of Tylor's photos are offered in the public domain as "free".  That doesn't meet the definition of copyright protection by most yardsticks.

Mr Carner has said that "I think you guys have become so entrenched in fighting back that you never considered that there may not need to be one in the first place.", and "ELI will be there to shame them in the process".
I can't speak for Matt of course.  But, I think that Mr Carner has mistaken the primary mission of ELI with the negative results of copyright trolling.
That is the "fight", "non-payment" and the "shame" are a direct result of the following:

• faked evidence
• lack of legal standing
• illegal threats
• ruined reputations of trolls/trolling companies and incompetent lawyers

ELI's mission is to inform.  That's how I think of it.  The collateral damage to the trolls is the result of greed and warped moral compasses.

S.G.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Recording Copyright Extortion Collection Telephone Calls

« on: June 04, 2012, 04:08:23 PM »

Yeah, if anybody calls about money, and I don't know who they are, I just hang up immediately.

S.G.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Recording Copyright Extortion Collection Telephone Calls

« on: June 03, 2012, 04:35:45 PM »

I'm gonna run the audio through Auto-Tune.  Maybe I can make a song out of it?
I'll name it "I'm Gonna Kill You (my dad never took took me to see Monsters Inc.)".
lol

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copyright Services International / Hawaiian Art Network

« on: June 03, 2012, 11:22:36 AM »

Maybe some people felt that they should remind him.
You know, in case he forgot where he and Tylor seeded those images.
The images are offered everywhere as "free"... it must be hard to keep track of hundreds of those sites. lol

S.G.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Recording Copyright Extortion Collection Telephone Calls

« on: June 03, 2012, 12:22:14 AM »

Hey Matt,

Sorry if I got too technical, it was brought up a couple of times, so I figured that I'd post about it.
Anyway, the "rules" only really apply if somethings to be used in "court".

The recording is funny as hell.  He's lucky that you didn't call the cops.

But, why do I picture this guy when I listen to it?



S.G.

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Recording Copyright Extortion Collection Telephone Calls

« on: June 02, 2012, 11:40:23 PM »

I did some reading the other day.

My understanding that the only kind of recording in the US that's "illegal" (without government permission) is when neither party is aware that they're being recorded.

But, the laws of submission state whether or not such calls can be used as court evidence.
It's allowed in most states so long as one person is aware that the conversation is being recorded.
A small number of states only allow recorded evidence if both parties are aware that a recording is being made.

Also, "If a caller in a one-party state records a conversation with someone in a two-party state that caller is subject to the stricter of the laws and must have consent from all callers"
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_recording_laws

S.G.