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Messages - Oscar Michelen

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Doctor C: Getty and other image companies are lobbying for changes in their favor to the DMCA and the Copyright Act, including language that would overrule the Muensch case we talked about on this forum. It would be great if those on this side of the issue had as much combined clout (money & access)

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Profile sniffers
« on: August 28, 2011, 05:00:50 PM »
buddhapi: Thats exactly what I just posted in response to an earlier post of yours. I suspect that PicSCout will remain in Israel for some time though.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A purely hypothetical question
« on: August 28, 2011, 04:58:26 PM »
buddhapi:  Now that PicScout has been bought by Getty, the company's servers location may be changing from Israel.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty sends DCMA notice to google
« on: August 28, 2011, 04:56:36 PM »
McFilms is correct that you can be your own DMCA agent, but you have to register your contact info with the Copyright Office. Every hosting provider should do so to get DMCA protection. 

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It seems  that every time a sound discussion begins, it gets hijacked into lowbrow argument without adding any analysis. The initial post started with a hypothetical but it was not an apples to apples analogy (or tomatoes to tomatoes). Once the farmer sells his tomato to the restaurant the transaction is finished. But no one buys IP anymore, they only license it, giving them no right to allow its re-use or re-sale. Once again, photographers have every right to expect their IP to be used properly and with permission and they are entitled to damages if that IP is pirated.  But is it right to try and enforce those IP rights by sending out letters seeking far in excess of what that piracy is worth? And if a website user can establish that he had no knowledge or reason to believe he used pirated material,(because he used a third party developer or because the images had no watermarks or copyright management information) shouldn't it be enough that he has been warned, taken the images down and never will use them again?   

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This is something new that MF seems to be trying out but which could backfire as sending out false DMCA takedown notices could lead to penalties. In a case called Online Policy Group v. Diebold, Incorporated. Diebold made voting machines used in US elections. Online Policy Group was critical of Diebold's machines, and released e-mail correspondence from the company that they had obtained onto the Internet. Diebold sent DMCA takedown notices so that the e-mails would be removed. Online Policy Group sued Diebold over the takedown requests, arguing that the Group had the legal right to publish the e-mails and that therefore the DMCA oties sent by Diebold were invalid. A California court agreed with the Group and granted a request for summary judgment. Diebold later settled with the Group paying $125,000 in damages and legal fees.

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MF makes a good deal of income from the copyright infringement claim business so I doubt the new entity is going to just give up the revenue stream and I am sure that all the paperwork will clearly assign all of MF's rights in the images to the new entity. I am as curious about the numbers as everyone else is, but it should indeed be interesting to see the new public company have to report its financials.

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OK, just a few points before I address the main topic.  (1) I do not make a significant amount of money from this site at all, in fact I consider it a loss leader. I reduce my regular $450 per hour fee to try and give some form of response for people who receive this letter, it introduces them to my firm, and it fells good to help people out(2)If I was getting 1,000 of letters per month (at $195 each) I would be doing nothing else but monitoring this site constantly not just popping in every now and again usually if you notice on weekends and days off, so as to not to take time away from my busy regular practice; Matt Chan makes nothing off the few $195 clients per month that come to me through this site so what's his angle?  (3)I call it Extortion Letter because it is in my and Matt Chan's opinion bullying and extortive to demand more than the alleged wrong is worth knowing that the inflated amount is still not enough for most people to fight over instead of just sending in a check. The digital image companies have not done anything to take it down because the First Amendment protects me from being sued for my expressions of my opinion. I also say it is "Legalized extortion" which is why no attorney general I have reached out to in the beginning of this issue three years ago saw fit to get involved. In Idaho, I believe, the Attorney General there heavily fined one of the digital image companies only because they had globally settled with a website template company yet were still making monetary demands from end users who used that template company; in essence they were trying to collect twice for the same infringement; (4) Every so often (certainly two months don't go by) a class action lawyer or firm contacts me expressing interest in taking this on.  I provide them with all the info, another hour discussion on the phone, redacted copies of the letters, etc. And then hear nothing.  This happened as recently as a few weeks ago.  No response yet from the  last lawyer.  I am not allergic to making money or handling controversial cases or taking on the big guys. My track record proves that I have done all of those in the past and currently continue to do so. If there was valid way to bring a class action for this conduct, I would have done so years ago or one of these firms, who do nothing but bring consumer class actions. Barratry requires the litigant to have no claim - these companies do have a right to protect these images. It is not harassment to try and collect for an infringement; it is their methods and demand amounts that are just overbearing and  disturbing.  But as always I am open to suggestions so please tell me what would the basis be for a class action; what is the illegal conduct they are engaging in that gives rise to a claim?  I will be the first to sign on to bring the case myself!   

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Is this plausable??
« on: August 28, 2011, 12:28:18 PM »
The idea has some merit, but just sending a letter without some method of proving receipt and acceptance won't be enough and of course as indicated in other posts there are legal ways the companies could get around this. We have long ago advised folks on this site to clear your Google cache and the cache on archive.org to prevent further spidering through these sources. I am not technically savvy enough to determine if there was a way to limit all discovery of what's on your site. But a letter to them demanding they stay off of the site as described originally would be a start

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You make a good distinction between having the copyright and having registered the images. There are alot of posts and discussions on the site about "compilation" registration and the ability to enforce as a registered copyright an individual image that was registered as part of a compilation. But two entities cannot register copyright for the same image. In cases where the photographer has registered images before joining up with a digital image agency, the agency would normally require an assignment of the copyright registration.   

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: STOCK FOOD IMAGES - IMUA LEGAL - SEATTLE
« on: August 06, 2011, 04:20:22 PM »
Matt I will forward you a letter  on Monday. We have had several cases with IMUA.  John Grant is the attorney there that is doing this work and he has represented Superstock Corbis and many others (though not the biggest MF and Getty to my knowledge) He has been very professional and responsive in my dealings with him so far.

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Hey RiddickCritic - have you been following what has been happening in Bernina v. Imageline, Riddick got hit with $140K in fees and costs I believe,

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Different Strategy
« on: August 06, 2011, 04:13:39 PM »
I know you two seem to have issues, but if both of you turned down the personal animus, you would see that both of you contribute a great  deal of information to the site. If you take a look at my posts (and others) that follow your posts, you will see when I agree or disagree with you and by far I more often agree. I don't care if either or neither of you are lawyers, as long as you dont hold yourself out to be when you're not.  No one has done that yet to my knowledge. As far as Helpi is concerned SG, I think he is a valuable poster on this site.  It can't be that everyone has the same position or the same response.  A healthy dialogue requires input from all corners. Could I do with a little less sarcasm and smarminess (if thats a word) from him, sure, but at the same time, that's his style and far be it for me to condemn it as long as everyone remains respectful. So I encourage both of you to step back off each other a little bit and keep on contributing when you feel you have something productive to add.   

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Masterfile - in need of urgent advice
« on: August 06, 2011, 04:06:13 PM »
Yes you are correct. But if you read the Muensch case you will see that according to that decision, MF may not have the right to claim that single image as a registered image if they registered as part of a compilation

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Just tried to link onto the petition and it was dead.

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