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Great postings and research links.

I take it that the photo in question is registered as part of a larger compilation of photos.
Additionally, it's registered to the original photographer, and not the stock image company?

There's no mention of a signed, dated "exclusive" agreement between the photographer and Phototake.

The whole thing sounds a bit weak...

S.G.

557
Time to take screen captures of all her quotes before she removes them.
I look forward to beating her over the head with her own words.

S.G.


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Are these lawyers essentially inexperienced, out of work people who decided to take anything that came along?
I realize that some lawyers have a broken moral compass, but I wonder if the economy has something to do with it?
Or, a bit of both?

I'd like to see where these "lawyers" are in a few years.
I recall that Brandon Sand wrote up a real turd and sent it to some other country.
Look where it got him.  I guess that a rap career was his calling after all.

It seems that anyone who has a "law degree", an IQ of 80, and a copy of MS Word can cut-and-paste their way into the "American Dream"
Good luck with that.

S.G.

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Thanks Buddha!!

I'll probably get something from a "pay" site, at least I'll get some sort of "license".  To me, it's like a "warranty". 
I do business with a company that isn't known for "trolling", though...
But, if anything "bad" ever happens, I'll give one warning, and then I'll sue all parties involved to the max.
ELI will be one of the first to hear about it.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / List of ethical microstock companies
« on: May 23, 2012, 05:44:44 PM »
I recall that a list of "ethical" stock art companies was posted a liitle ways back.
I might need some photos, and I don't mind paying...
I just don't want my money used to make threatening letters (which destroys our forests)... lol.

If someone could provide a link, that would be great.
Also, anyone have any experience with Shutterstock?

Thanks in advance,

S.G.


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Great discussion.

This case may be one of the most important to come along in some time.
I'm sure that the judge will consider this one carefully.  The "door" cannot be opened to intentional, wide-scale "seeding" of "free" images with sneaky lawsuits.

A wrong decision here would open the floodgates to trolling on scale never before seen.
I'm confident that the judge will clearly see the implications.

S.G.

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I like your well-balanced post, Matt.

Naturally, I think that when one receives a demand letter, he/she should request proof of the claim.
Anyone can send "threatening letters" demanding money, so it's prudent to do so.
Should a request for proof be denied, and further aggressive efforts are made to collect, then it's time to take action.

Perhaps, in the interest of fairness, one could notify the attorney in question that a complaint will be made in the event that futher action is taken without any proof of an actual copyright infringement.
If the attorney continues to pursue the claim, then a complaint should be made.

I'm honestly not sure where Getty will go from here.
Surely some will pay regardless, but the percentage is surely falling rapidly.
When somebody tries to shake you down for a large sum, and they don't offer ANY proof, they're essentially giving you an excuse to ignore the claim.

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Tejas Research, LLC v. Getty Images
« on: May 22, 2012, 07:59:35 PM »

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Tejas Research, LLC v. Getty Images
« on: May 22, 2012, 05:51:28 PM »
I put a link to the actual patent "Exhibit A" in my first posting.
I wouldn't waste money on getting more doc's, unless it really gets interesting.
I suspect that this might just be some "patent trolling"...
Thanks,

S.G.


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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Tejas Research, LLC v. Getty Images
« on: May 22, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »
I searched to see if it had already been posted, but I didn't find anything.
But, sorry if this has been reported before.

Tejas has a website:
http://www.tejasre.com/

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Tejas Research, LLC v. Getty Images
« on: May 22, 2012, 04:31:00 PM »
Tejas Research, LLC v. Getty Images

Patent lawsuit:

http://www.scribd.com/priorsmart/d/92199057-Tejas-Research-v-Getty-Images-et-al

"7.  Plaintiff is the owner by assignment of United States Patent No. 6,006,231 (“the’231 Patent”) entitled “File format for an image including multiple versions of an image, and related system and method.” A true and correct copy of the ’231 Patent is attached as Exhibit A."

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Tejas seems to have filed several similar suits on May,2 and 3, 2012...

May 2:
•Tejas Research v. Vivid Entertainment Group et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00296
•Tejas Research v. Playboy Enterprises Inc. et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00299
•Tejas Research v. Walgreen Co. et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00300
•Tejas Research v. Getty Images Inc. et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00301

May 3
•Tejas Research v. LFP Internet Group Case No. 6:12-cv-00302
•Tejas Research v. The Neiman-Marcus Group Inc. et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00303
•Tejas Research v. Academy Ltd. d/b/a Academy Sports Outdoors d/b/a Academy Sports and Outdoors et al Case No. 6:12-cv-00304

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Here's the patent... a Canadian connection...?

http://www.scribd.com/priorsmart/d/92107910-File-format-for-an-image-including-multiple-versions-of-an-image-and-related-system-and-method-US-patent-6006231

S.G.


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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A win for the bad guys
« on: May 22, 2012, 02:11:12 PM »
U.S. copyright law was never intended to deal with issues of copyright related to “file sharing” on the Internet.  That’s why the law is open to fairly wide interpretation (and therefore varying) determinations by different judges.  To make a formal argument of whether or not the law is “constitutional” would be quite a long and expensive affair, and sometimes that’s an answer in itself.  That is, is anything to be gained for the effort of challenging it overall?

The “law” protects “works”, but ironically it can also protect innocents from the likes of corporations such as Getty and their ilk, who make a frequent habit of falsely accusing people of infringement.  So, the law is the best “test” that we have, but the law will always lag behind technology and new issues no matter how hard people make efforts to remedy it.

While “file sharing” is a bit off topic in this section of the forum, it’s probably of interest to some people to know how the methodology of a “defense” differs between infringements of “images” vs. that of “multimedia” files.  The main defense that’s effective against claims of copyright infringements of images is that (with very few exceptions) the “plaintiff” doesn’t own or is not an “exclusive” agent for the image/artist in question.  For multimedia content such as movies and music, you can bet that the copyright is registered and ownership is clear.  However, the defense in such cases is often built around whether or not there’s proof that the accused party actually committed the act of “infringement”.  IP addresses are widely known to be completely unreliable, and therefore the burden of proof must also come from other sources such as logs from the Internet service providers.  However, the service provider can be circumvented from releasing such info on the grounds of privacy.  If incriminating logs were released, one could simply argue that his/her “router was hacked”.  It’s easy to come up with logical defenses that will probably fly, however it often comes down to whom has the most resources, can make the most convincing argument, and ultimately who has the most resolve.  So, the “fight” is very different between the two types of content.

Ironically, the use of “content” outside of what the owners/producers/artists intended (some may call these “infringements”) actually drives sales to some extent.  If channels such as YouTube and others didn’t allow infringing content to some extent, the buying public wouldn’t be exposed to content that they might opt to buy.  That is, people don’t normally buy music that they’re never heard before.  It can be advertized on TV, but that costs a lot of money.  Radio’s a good choice, but it’s only one media channel of many.  In the case of Getty and their images, this is why Getty’s CEO says that they have sophisticated systems to detect infringements along with legal counsel, but encourages people to “play” with Getty’s images and even post them on social media sites such as Pinterest.  Getty's allowing and encouraging infringements to occur in certain situations which is technically "free advertizing", but it also feeds the misconception that people have about the content being "public domain".  This drives Getty's copyright trolling revenue.

S.G.

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UK Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Another UK Getty 'Love Letter'
« on: May 22, 2012, 12:05:14 AM »
I've never really been a big proponent of communicating with the trolls, as most people here know.
Unless Getty provides proof of copyright to you, I wouldn't negotiate a settlement with them.

S.G.


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McCormack can't convincingly say that he believes that "Getty's copyright" has been violated.
He needs to stop alledging "copyright infringement" in his demand letters immediately unless he has documentation on hand that proves such.
Additionally, he needs to supply proof of such infringement claims when the alleged infringer demands it.
Otherwise, I'm sure that there will be many more complaints against him and his firm.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/5675/successkidgettymccormac.jpg

S.G.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A win for the bad guys
« on: May 21, 2012, 01:21:02 PM »
Yeah, it's a big win.
But they'll probably never get a cent from him.
That's kind of the irony of these huge awards.

Too bad that he didn't have a better defense.

S.G.


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