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Bekka's made some good points here.
MF could claim that any one of these seemingly "empty" registrations could represent ANY IMAGE that they might have an infringement dispute over.
There's no way for anyone to determine otherwise unless they do some digging.  The average person would be fooled.
Mind you, this may not be happening.  It is something to consider, however.

S.G.


842
I thought that MF had already sued over one or two images in the past?
Lawsuits haven't been profitable in my opinion; MF got a few big wins in the past but I don't think that they could ever collect anything.
However, a lawsuit over one image is certainly a great scare tactic, and they know that it will be discussed here at length.

If the image was registered in a collection with many other images, and this is a US case, then perhaps the precedent set by Muench v. Houghton Mifflin would help the defendant here.
Here it is as described by Oscar Michelen in Sept 2010:
 
"Last July, Judge Preska of the Eastern District of New York issued a decision in a case called Muench v. Houghton Mifflin that rocked the warehouses that sell digital images. In a nutshell, she basically stated that the way these companies register images, by compilation and as automated and updated databases does not provide registration over the individual images.  She also held that an opinion letter sent by the Copyright Office to a digital image trade association that authorized this mechanism of registration was wrong and in violation of the Copyright Act."

"Both of these positions, by the way, have been expiunded [sic], defended and explained, on this site and forum long before Judge Preska's decision.  So the decision was a huge vindication and a massive blow to Getty, Corbis and Masterfile."

I have no reason to believe that anything has changed.
This is certainly a solid defense, and I would look into using this defence as part of a summary dismissal to avoid a court hearing.
At the very least, this could be used as leverage in negotiations.
A court loss because of bulk registration of images (again) would be a huge blow to the industry.

S.G.


843
Getty would never send anything to alleged infringers who requested proof of ownership.
So, it was kind of obvious that they never had the goods.  It was a sham from day one.

I would imagine that Getty went ahead with this lawsuit thinking that they'd win automatically because of the defendant's default.
A win would have put a lot of fear into all future Getty extortion letter recipients.
I guess that the money/stakes were high enough that the judge did a thorough inquest into the facts.

S.G.

844
Holy crap!!  THIS.
Who can say if this will go anywhere, and how long it will take?
But, man.  This is damaging to the whole copyright trolling business.
Time to sign up Mangano for this too.

I don't resemble Nick Cage.  But, my expression is exactly like this right now:

http://2ch.so/sf/src/1316532298809.jpg

S.G.


845
Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Images from RSS - Getty images letter
« on: January 13, 2012, 02:15:58 PM »
Yes, they send the extortion letter anyway.  I think that many people have paid settlements to the likes of Getty because they don't know much about the law or related issues.  It's sad, really.

It's made quite clear in US law that a Web "hotlink" is not an "infringement".  So it's a valid reason not to pay a claim, and it's also a winning court defense, with valid precedent.

My personal opinion is that while this is indeed fraudulent, it would be difficult to pin it down under "criminal" statutes.
You know, something that one could "call the police" over.

The difficulty with pursuing it in civil court is that it would difficult to show "damages".
While annoying, it's hard to show how one suffered "financially".  Unless you paid, then found out that you needn't have.

What would probably work is a "class action".
That way, it could be shown that there's a formal program in place at Getty that misleads people in to paying (and not just a clerical error).
Several people could submit affidavits as to what occured.  People could also testify that Getty has been made aware if the law on many occasions.
The "damages" would be payments made under false pretences, legal fees incurred, duress and emotional suffering.
Attempted collection activities could also be brought into the mix, which cause plenty of stress and anxiety.

S.G.





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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Images from RSS - Getty images letter
« on: January 13, 2012, 12:44:18 PM »
PicScout makes multiple scans over a few days.
In addition, it appears that a human in the local office of trolls looks at the site manually; this may also happen more than once (I suspect that this may be more automated in some cases these days).
PicScout does accurately record the URL's of the images in question.
I have proof of these facts.

I'm not sure why the URL is "blurry" in the case mentioned here.

S.G.

847
I'm quite enjoying the most exquisite "butthurt" that I detect, though.
It goes well "with some fava beans and a nice Chianti."
I'm savoring it like a fine apéritif.

S.G.


848
Facebook is known for being quite draconian when it comes to user complaints/ their user agreement.
I doubt that any human actually reads/views content that's the subject of a complaint; it's simply removed automatically.
If the other party makes a counter-argument, then a person might look at it.  Yes, I said "might".

These days, many of the people who use "social media" consider themselves "skilled marketers" simply because they can set up a profile, and use the basic features of a the system.
But, nothing could be further from the truth.  Skilled marketing/public relations takes many years to master.
Additionally, it's much easier to carefully foster a good reputation, than to attempt "damage control" later on.

I suspect that even lawyers are having a hard time finding work these days.
That's understandable given these times, but taking on legal cases that appear to be an obvious fraud is going to attract unwanted attention.
In addition, she's made false claims through the US DMCA.  This is illegal.  So, I really question her moral compass.

I think that Julie Stewart is making huge mistakes in her public relations by meeting any criticism, or even mention of her name with claims of "slander", "libel", and "anything that I write is copyright".
I personally don't think that she's in the correct profession for her.
At the very least, she should try practicing family law (wills, real estate, etc.).  She doesn't have the stomach for what she is doing now.
Most people don't believe that lawyers have some sort of "powers" to abuse the system, and bully people.
Anybody, and I mean anybody can hire a lawyer, send letters, make bogus claims and intimidate.
Ms Stewart isn't "special", and has no "special powers" or privilege.

S.G.


849
Riddick/Imageline Letter Forum / Re: Is Riddick Dead?
« on: January 12, 2012, 06:00:07 PM »
In Imageline/Riddick vs Bernina, it was determined that his stock art was not registered properly (he registered everything in bulk).
Also, his designs were very generic.  Nothing that he could sue for damages over.
Therefore, we may never hear from him again.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/23745259.jpg/

S.G.

850
Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Vicarious liability
« on: January 12, 2012, 12:26:54 AM »
Quite interesting...

Perhaps, "Secondary liability" might apply here as well?

"Some academics have classified the active inducement adopted in MGM Studios, Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd. as a new type of secondary liability because it is based on express acts of inducement and not on a mere failure to act;[6] furthermore, the specific intent to bring about infringing acts is another important factor in this analysis."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contributory_liability

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MGM_Studios,_Inc._v._Grokster,_Ltd.

S.G.


851
I'm enjoying the discussions here, indeed ELI gets even better with time.

I've noted that H.A.N./Tylor have a track record of pursing infringements internationally, specifically Canada.
This is 2012, and I don't see any reason that they couldn't pursue infringements by "free wallpaper" sites in Europe, or wherever.
"International" is not a problem, as shown by their own actions.  They can't testify that it can't be done.

While somebody always has "standing", and "copyright" subsists in a work at the moment of it's creation,
it's only the copyright registration that enables "statutory damages" to be sought that makes a lawsuit worthwhile.
Otherwise, it's just "actual damages", and Tylor sells his stuff for ten dollars, or something.

Therefore, the first thing that I would check is to see if the work was registered at the time of the alleged infringement.
If they won't send you proof of registration, that's an answer in and of itself.  That would mean that they have nothing.
If they have nothing, then it's over.

Next, to the free wallpaper sites...
It would be very difficult to prove who submitted the image to the wallpaper sites.
Often, you can submit images anonymously.  IP addresses are shite.  So, I suspect that this is a dead-end.

I don't think that a judge is a "disinterested third party".
Tylor's images are found on free sites worldwide, even on ones that shut down sites immediately upon a DMCA notice.
Hundreds, if not thousands of web impressions of his free images exist.  They can be brought to court as evidence.
The key point is the "public interest".  I doubt that a judge would grant their motion, as it would open the door to scams of truly epic proportions.
That's a compelling argument that can be made to a judge.

But, I really wonder if HAN/Tylor really have any intention of going through with a lawsuit, other than the one that is in "default".
Don't be so naive as to think that this isn't a scam.  Don't be so naive as to think that Tylor and HAN haven't visited ELI months ago.
I'm seeing just a bit too much of the "benefit of the doubt" song and dance.
Next thing we know, Tylor is going to piss in everyone's face and say "it's raining".
Wow!!  Thanks... that helps the flowers grow!! Herp-a-Derp.

But, yeah... some people won't put up a fight without a "guaranteed win".
They pay and it goes away.  But that still doesn't necessarily mean that the plaintiff had a case from the beginning.
Just ask thousands of Getty victims who paid.

S.G.


852
Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Free Baitpapers
« on: January 11, 2012, 06:18:48 PM »
Extortion-Victim-No Longer, thanks for sharing your experience here.
This is the sort of thing that drives me; fighting the copyright trolls' use of over-the-top tactics, and the human cost of that.
Your case illustrates the lies and the intimidation tactics used.

Sounds like things are better for you now, and I'm sure that I speak for everyone here when I say that I'm glad for that.

S.G.

854
I checked via Google for impressions of Tylor's Road to Hana - Turquoise Lagoon.
I went to the first 7 instances of the photo.
Out of the 7, a WhoIS search showed that two were registered through GoDaddy.

http://www.wallpaperzzz.com/widescreen-river-download/

http://v3wall.com/es/html/pic_down/1600_1200/pic_down_5488_1600_1200.htm

So, just in an informal search, nearly a third resided on domains wherein a DMCA takedown request would work immediately.

I smell scamola here.

S.G.

855
Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Free Baitpapers
« on: January 11, 2012, 05:58:44 PM »
I checked via Google for impressions of Tylor's Road to Hana - Turquoise Lagoon.
I went to the first 7 instances of the photo.
Out of the 7, a WhoIS search showed that two were registered through GoDaddy.

http://www.wallpaperzzz.com/widescreen-river-download/

http://v3wall.com/es/html/pic_down/1600_1200/pic_down_5488_1600_1200.htm

So, just in an informal search, nearly a third resided on domains wherein a DMCA takedown request would work immediately.

I smell scamola here.

S.G.

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