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Messages - Matthew Chan

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I was finally forced into looking at this case for myself.  It is just one too many VKT cases coming across my desk.  I needed to analyze the VKT lawsuit for myself in my own way and style.

I don't care how I get the info or who it comes from.  I just want to know where the hell this law firm is supposed to be based at because it smells very suspicious.

And if something is not right about this law firm, I suspect Vermont Woods and their allies might want to report it to the appropriate authorities.

Remember, Adam Gafni not only targeted Vermont Woods but all its John Does also.  People need to take a page out of the Porn Troll lawsuits and learn how all the John Does teamed up to pummel Prenda down for their extortionistic tactics.

The John Does need to work with Vermont Woods on this.  Adam and VKT appear to want to tempt fate and engage in Porn Troll lawsuit tactics.

Matthew is baiting me.. I can tell  ;D

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In doing research on Woolf, Gafni, & Fowler, the youngling law firm formed in 2012, where "Fowler" is gone from the firm and practicing in Houston, TX. I found their attorneys page a bit puffed up so that more bios and photos could be included.

Adam Gafni, in particular, has a very poor online presence. He is still listed as an associate with Meyers & McConnell.

http://www.meyersmcconnell.com/gafni.html

His LinkedIn page doesn't contain much of anything. It appears Adam is engaged in "stealth marketing" tactics online. It seems appropriate because he represents VKT who seems to like entrapping people with his desktop wallpaper honeypot lure.

And when poor suckers who don't know much about copyright innocently use a low-resolution image on their websites, VKT strikes.

Now that the VKT vs. Vermont Woods lawsuit has been filed, Adam is trying to say that because the alleged infringed photos were posted in Facebook (located in California) that the lawsuit belongs in that jurisdiction.  Anyone who has any common sense knows that is horseshit.  Adam filed it in California because it was convenient to him to help keep the expenses down.

That complaint was primarily written for Vermont Woods benefit to "motivate" them to settle. Fortunately, Vermont Woods is angry and has not taken it lightly.  Regular ELI readers know VKT has been getting away with all kinds of shenanigans because most victims are just too ignorant or spineless to actually think logically about this.  Vermont Woods may have started out innocent like everyone else but I believe they have learned a lot along the way about the VKT desktop wallpaper honeypot.

Vermont Woods has successfully gotten the attention of the local paper the Vermont Brattleboro Reformer newspaper where both ELI and Mitch Stoltz of EFF were quoted.

http://www.reformer.com/localnews/ci_25969243/vernon-company-faces-lawsuit-from-copyright-troll

Adam Gafni might think he is hot stuff going up against a Vermont lawyer but I wonder how it might look if Adam Gafni went up against Oscar Michelen in court?

As most ELI readers know, it isn't the infringement issue that is being challenged as much as the extortion and settlement amounts.

What I am personally dying to know is to get VKT into a courtroom under oath.  And since VKT wants to have his lawyer file on the mainland, then VKT needs to be prepared to fly at his own expense to testify at the trial.  He needs to be put through a cross-examination and an extensive discovery process as well.

What absolutely needs to happen is if Adam Gafni wants to encourage VKT to push forward is that direct questions need to be asked of VKT of how he generates the bulk of his income nowadays?  Is it through lawsuits and settlements or is it through digital image and photography sales?

I am willing to bet that similar to most photographers, VKT's income has plunged. He might make a few sales here and there but he is not commanding the dollar per image that extortion letters do.

The court needs to understand the context of the environment in which he exists.  I don't buy the horseshit that photographers spend all this time, money, and expense to earn a livelihood and so they can extort multi-thousand dollar settlements for low-resolution, low-web traffic, non-willful infringements.

Hollywood movie production companies often spend tens of millions of dollars per film. Do you see them trying to extort half-million dollar settlements from individuals claiming that because they spend x millions of dollars they expect to get that from one small business or individual? Generally, they just want people to stop infringing, give a warning, and that is it.

I think the court would be very interested to know how much money he has made over the last few years AND HOW it was made. VKT needs to be made to demonstrate what the true market value of his images truly are to give a basis of what the true damages are.

We have already seen that many courts don't give of attorney costs. The Gale case shown that.  They infringed and paid $5400 (if I remember correctly) and everyone was responsible for their own lawyer costs.

In a Corbis case, the court destroyed the plaintiff's attorney cost and expense request.  It was destroyed so badly that although Corbis won, Corbis lost around $30K pursuing that case.

Judges aren't stupid.  If the proper context is explained and the discussions are brought out as to WHY they think a plaintiff should win $20K from an obscure Vermont small business for a few images seen by a few people on a Facebook page.  Even more stupid would be that if a good faith effort was made to settle and a dollar amount was proposed and the plaintiff turned it out down because the lawyer wanted a bigger settlement to get his fair share of the percentage, the court might not take too kindly to a small discrepancy.

I also cannot believe Adam would attempt to insinuate Facebook and Typepad assisted in the alleged infringement. If that is the case, I would invite Facebook and Typepad to the party to help clear their name.  Perhaps an email to Facebook's and Typepad's legal counsel is in order. Adam wrote the complaint, not VKT.  Facebook and Typepad have safe harbor over what its users post and to accuse them of any wrongdoing in this case could be considered defamatory by Adam and VKT's part. Google, Facebook, Yahoo, and other large Internet companies have a vested interest that its users are not abused.  Adam is abusing Facebook by using their name to claim California jurisdiction.  I wonder how they like that?  That would mean any lawsuit related to social media would have to be filed in California.  I don't think the State of California would like that as their courts are already clogged up and backlogged.

Adam and VKT are trying to do a shakedown by including John Does parties.  How stupid is Adam?  Has he not followed the porn troll lawsuits?  If the victims are coming out and teaming up in droves to fight the porn trolls, does he honestly think that any of the Does in Vermont's and VKT case will be afraid to testify and fight alongside Vermont Woods against Adam and VKT? Stupid call.

Adam has shown through is own shitty online presence that he doesn't have much command of the Internet and how it works.  The photo copyright extortionists continue to want to ignore the commoditization and erosion of the digital photography business.  Anyone can look to camcorders, digital camcorders, and smartphone to learn how photos as a whole are largely commodities. Yes, piracy is a contributing factor but not as much as the technological upheavals going on devaluing digital imagery.

Do we even want to dig out HOW VKT got the photos to begin with?  He probably wasn't the landowner of which he might have trespassed or walked on to get those photos.  And those people who may have given permission to VKT to go on the Hawaii beaches and lands to take those photos, maybe they need to get a piece of VKT's revenues.  Perhaps, the State of Hawaii needs to be contacted that he is trying profit and extort from public lands and scenery.

Let us not forget that most infringers of VKT's photos were directly or indirectly trying to promote Hawaii as a destination, venue, or some other virtue.  And VKT is attempting to "own" pieces of Hawaiian scenery.  VKT doesn't own Hawaii and its scenery.  And he doesn't own the land in which he walked on to take most of his photos.

VKT is bastardizing people's love of Hawaii's lush scenery in such an overtly thuggish away, it is offensive. He and his wife are so entitled, they don't realize that most of the content in the photos, they own to Nature, God, the U.S. and the State of Hawaii.  Someone needs to knock some sense into them to get over their entitlement mentality.  He took & embellished some fucking photos. He may be talented but that doesn't give him the right to abuse the copyright laws and the court system as a tool to extort monies from others.

VKT is not so innocent or independent in HOW he took those photos.  I don't think the State of Hawaii, local business owners, and the landowners would appreciate one of its state citizens legally terrorizing Internet users that are trying to promote Hawaii.  Hawaii is in the tourist, vacation, and destination business. It is true that people shouldn't infringe on VKT's photos but that doesn't give VKT the right to bastardize copyright laws and club people over the head legally.

Both Adam and VKT are NOT islands in this world.  I believe Hawaiians would be outraged at how one of their state citizens are behaving towards non-Hawaiians especially since VKT is using the beautiful lush scenery as HIS product.  VKT might find himself unable to take any more nature photos if word got out how he is twisting what is free to the public (Hawaiian scenery) to his benefit. VKT is an embarrassment and black eye to Hawaii.

An extensive discovery process and cross-examination may reveal that VKT didn't get those photos all on his own. He had help and permission from others.  Or maybe he didn't. No one really knows. There may be other parties that actually have a legitimate financial interest in his "earnings".  His images may contain content, imagery, and property that belong to other businesses such as hotels, private homeowners, and the State of Hawaii.

Perhaps complaints to the Attorney General in Hawaii is in order at some point.  All the VKT victims can easily find one another here on ELI to make things happen.

Adam Gafni is no Oscar Michelen.  The smartest thing that Vermont Woods can do is to fire the Vermont law firm and get Oscar Michelen on the case.


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I finally had more time to study the impending lawsuit by Vincent Tylor (VKT) against Vermont Woods Studios. One thing amateurs miss is evaluating the law firm that takes on a client, their motivations, and the method of compensation.

We have established on ELI that most copyright extortion lawyers (CEL) generally work on contingency.  They typically collect anywhere from 1/3 to 40% of the overall collection.  So, CELs have every incentive to negotiate a high settlement if possible. However, they also weigh the ease and aggravation of trying to negotiate a higher settlement amount.

Most law firms have heavy overhead to pay.  High rents, high salaries, and high office support expenses are the norm.  And unless a law firm believes they can score a big win, they will usually take the quick buck.

I looked into Woolf, Gafni, and Fowler (WGF) and did a bit of analysis. I know almost nothing abut the firm except what is published on the Internet. However, I have some experience in dealing with lawyers from a variety of firms both on a personal and professional level.

First off, WGF is "missing" a named partner name "Fowler". Their attorney roster has no bio or photo of any lawyer by the last name of Fowler. However, I have discovered that "missing" partner is Mateo Fowler from Houston, TX.

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/mateo-fowler/38/388/61

Mateo Fowler lists his involvement in WGF from Feb. 2012 to February 2013, only one year.

However, in looking at Chaim Woolf and Adam Gafni, the other named partners, the California Bar reveals the following:

Chaim Woolf
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/236957

Adam Gafni
http://members.calbar.ca.gov/fal/Member/Detail/230045

Mateo Fowler graduated in 2005 but his license date is 2008.
http://www.texasbar.com/AM/Template.cfm?Section=Find_A_Lawyer&template=/Customsource/MemberDirectory/MemberDirectoryDetail.cfm&ContactID=301480

Chaim was admitted in June 2005 and Adam in January 2004.  That means they have been lawyers at MOST 10 years. Most lawyers upon graduation have to put in some humble-pie, grunt time for a larger firm doing lots of legal research, paralegal type of work, and other work senior lawyers don't want to be bothered with.  They put in their time to either eventually become a partner with a firm they are hired into or they break out to form their own law firms. They do so to pool their resources but, more importantly, share expenses and brainpower to give an image that they are much substantial and larger than they truly are.

It's amusing that Adam is still listed as an associate on his old law firm. http://www.meyersmcconnell.com/gafni.html
Now that I mentioned this publicly, I imagine this page will be taken down shortly.

WGF appears to have been formed only in 2012! Woolf, Gafni, and Mateo Fowler decided to form a partnership. But in Feb. 2013, "Fowler" fell out of the partnership.  He could have been booted out of the partnership or he left the partnership. Either way, it leaves a firm "missing" a named partner leaving Woolf and Gafni to run this youngling law firm.

Assuming Chaim and Gafni graduated from law school in their mid to late 20's, that puts their ages as mid to late 30's.  IN lawyer terms, they are still young lawyers and have SOME experience but they are NOT an Oscar Michelen or William McKenney level lawyers. Not by a long shot.

Whether WGF works on contingency or hourly rate, those guys are in Los Angeles and they NEED to crank in a healthy hourly rate to support their overhead and pay their large mortgages in California. 

Interestingly, WGF keeps emphasizing their "Los Angeles Office" of WGF. This implies that they are either an offshoot of another law firm or they have aspirations to become much larger.  Either way, I can find no trace of a legal entity named "Woolf, Gafni & Fowler LLP" within the California corporation database. 

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

They create the illusion that they are larger than they really are by including lawyers "of counsel", out of state, or those lawyers that appear to be loosely associated with WGF.

It may be that I am not looking in the right place. Mateo Fowler lists WGF as being in Houston, TX.  Does that mean WGF was located in Texas for a time? OR that he represented the Houston, TX side of the business?

Under the California business search, I cannot find any listing close to "Woolf, Gafni & Fowler LLP". I have tried just using "Woolf" and "Gafni" but nothing close.  I am soliciting help to find some legitimate registration to WGF. I have to believe it exists somewhere.  I would be shocked if a law firm with so many lawyers didn't have some kind of corporate registration SOMEWHERE.

Assuming I can find some trace of a corporate entity named Woolf Gafni & Fowler, they fit the profile of most copyright extortion lawyers that are young and relatively inexperienced. WGF has only been around since 2012 for gosh sakes.  Every law firm has to somewhere but for the here and now, they are younglings.

Surprisingly, for a guy of his age and firm of his size, Adam has a poor showing for his online presence. It is pretty embarrassing that he is listed only as an "associate" for Meyers & McConnell. 

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Vincent K Tylor strikes again
« on: June 23, 2014, 02:16:05 AM »
Don't make this more difficult than it has to be.  You are caught up in terminology and overthinking this.  Anyone can give anyone else money for any reason.  Having said that, if you want to have people contribute money to you to help in defeating VKT, this is not a complicated procedure. It can be as simply as sharing your email address for Paypal contributions.  However, to actually receive contributions, there are other things you will likely have to do.

Most of the people on ELI know you have a legitimate lawsuit against you filed by VKT. You have had a newspaper article written about you and your case.  You have written blog posts about your position and your case. You have laid a lot of the groundwork to credibly show that you are not soliciting money trivially or without reason.

Asking for financial help is probably one of the most difficult things normally self-sufficient people with pride can do.  Trust me, I know.  I don't like asking for help. It isn't easy but sometimes you have to be open to allow others to help you.  If you want someone to help you, your job is to NOT make it complicated.  Make it simple and make it compelling.

Tell people your situation and story, lay out your case, tell people what you are trying to achieve and what the money will be used for.  Seeing VKT get defeated would make many people happy.  Paypal is one of easiest ways to transfer money to another person on the Internet.

If and when you decide to not overthink and overcomplicate this, you will post such information, your case, your story, etc. on your blog/website and then invite others who may be interested to do so.  It isn't like you will be raising tens of thousands of dollars.  You will be lucky to get a few hundred dollars contributed to help you.  This little bit of money does not even come close to what you are reading and thinking.

Don't make it hard for people to help you. And give people a compelling reason to do so.  Find a way to give back in exchange for contributions.  It can be regular updates, personal emails, gratitude, etc.  Using creativity and imagination can go a long way.

Thanks so much for your support, everyone.  The case is progressing.  Matthew suggested we set up a legal defense fund.  I haven't found much information about IRS requirements or forms.  This seems like overkill - not really a fit for me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_defense_fund).  I guess we could just set it up on paypal.  Any suggestions?

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Happy 6th Birthday to ELI!
« on: June 21, 2014, 03:21:44 AM »
June 20, 2014 is a special day.  It is ELI's 6th birthday.

Due to unfortunate circumstances last year of ELI's unexpected legal battle against a certain poet copyright extortionist, I was not able to announce nor celebrate ELI's 5th birthday last year. I had resigned my position as Editor-in-Chief and went silent out of disgust and protest of the situation.

However, last year is last year and thanks to the harassing shenanigans by Getty Images outside Lawyer Timmy McCormack (fondly known as Timmy Mack), I finally got pulled back into the ELI fold!

2014 is a new year and ELI is nearly restored to full strength (with some minor changes).

June 20, 2008 was a special day.  It was the day I officially registered and launched extortionletterinfo.com (ELI).  I didn't call it ELI back then. "ELI" was coined by Oscar Michelen shortly after his volunteer efforts and endorsement of my newly launched website. Back then, ELI was much uglier and there was no discussion forum! Days later after launch, I started getting my first emails from fellow victims sharing their stories and I began gathering data, information, and stories on the Getty scheme in the U.S.

On June 27, 2008, independently of ELI, Attorney Oscar Michelen made his first public post about the "Getty Barrage" now better known as "Getty Images Extortion Letters".
http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/cease-and-desist-letter-received-from-getty-images-5053.html

On July 8, 2008, I "discovered" Oscar Michelen when I read his insightful, rational AVVO post. Finally, I found a lawyer that "got" and understood my argument and position. Discovering Oscar was the result of my persistent search for a grounded, rational lawyer who might understand my perspective beyond the whole generic B.S. that if there is a copyright infringement you were automatically subject to a $150,000 lawsuit claim. Even with my limited knowledge back then, I thought most of the lawyers that shared their opinion on the subject was talking theoretically and spewing horseshit.  From the very beginning, I never believed that any rational court or judge would rule I had to pay even 10% of that $150K given my particular set of circumstances of unintentional (innocent) infringement.

On July 9, 2008, following my invitation email to Oscar, he graciously responded back by making one of ELI's first and earliest discussion forum posts.  http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/comments-by-attorney-oscar-michelen-regarding-getty-images-and-extortionletterin/

As you can read for yourself, the tone of that post does not reflect the easy familiarity that Oscar and I enjoy today. Nonetheless, that post remains a very important one that launched the beginnings of what would ultimately the ELI Community.

In the days that followed July 9, 2008, there was a flurry of email exchanges (which I still have) between Oscar and myself as we got to know each other and worked on the beginnings of what would become his innovative Defense Letter Program. I recall our early phone conversations to be easy and mutually respectful. It didn't take long for our professional relationship to grow as we had complementary skills and took a symbiotic approach to building ELI.

Of course, there are many more stories that followed as the weeks and months passed but those early days and weeks of building ELI with Oscar were special. Few know the exact chronology of what happened on what dates. However, I have managed to keep and archive those emails for reference.

To be clear, ELI has organically grown far beyond what Oscar and I ever envisioned.  We have literally had thousands of readers and visitors come through this website the last six years. Along the way, we have met and gained some smart, committed, and courageous friends and allies that support what we do.

As long as copyright extortionists continue extorting individuals and small business with their outrageous financial demands, ELI, the ELI Community, its network of friends and allies will continue to educate others and grow its membership.  And the losers who make their money off of taking unfair advantage off of the legally ignorant can be sure there are many eyes and ears paying close attention to every move they make.

Happy Birthday to ELI on its 6th year of existence.  Onward and upwards to Year 7.


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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Vincent K Tylor strikes again
« on: June 21, 2014, 01:24:43 AM »
It is easy for people to be self-righteous until they get smacked in the head. I promise you that some of these people will come running to ELI for help the minute they are on the receiving end of the stick.

Most people don't understand or appreciate what we do on ELI until they get a letter and start bouncing around dealing with non-ELI people.  What we do and share here is pretty unique.  People think it is all about any ol' lawyer responding to any ol' infringement claim.  People who think that will get TREATED and dealt with the very same way.

You have a mission you need to achieve defending against VKT.  Ignore the non-supporters who don't get it.  Stick to a powerful community and people who "get it". If you have attackers there, then stay away from there.  Stay here where you will get the support you need to defend your case.

I'm getting slammed up here in Vermont.  http://vtdigger.org/2014/06/16/vermont-business-owner-says-hit-copyright-troll/
Check out the comments

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Vincent K Tylor strikes again
« on: June 18, 2014, 01:19:29 AM »
Questions that Peggy might have her lawyer ask are:

1. Show and prove what price and volume of ACTUAL sales VKT has made, not some fictional, arbitrary value pulled out of thin air.  If he has photos that show sales of $50, that will help demonstrate what the true market value of the image is.  What resolution and format does he sell at?  If VKT shows very low sales AND a "low" price (anything under $200 such as for innocent infringements), guess what? Judges might be swayed to the lower end of the spectrum.

2.  The lawyer needs to ask about all these FREE VKT wallpaper websites?  How did those come about?  And WHY are they out there?  Are there prominent disclaimers?

3. What is the damages for alleged infringement on a Facebook site?  Facebook may be on the Internet but Facebook is actually "closed site".  How many users could actually view the infringed photos?  Generally, Facebook users have to actually "like" either a page or a personal account to view such images.  And just because photos are on a Facebook page or personal account, they don't automatically show on everyone's timeline.  Hypothetically, if 10 people actually saw them, does that warrant a $10,000 statutory damages award? What is the formula here?

As a non-lawyer and if I had to represent myself, there are numerous questions that I would prepare to ascertain what the value of the infringement award to be.  Generally speaking, fighting the infringement claim is not good use of time.  However, a good use of time is to show that the value of the infringement comes close to "de minimus".

Just thinking out of the box late at night....

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Hawaiian Letters & Lawsuits Forum / Re: Vincent K Tylor strikes again
« on: June 06, 2014, 11:32:40 AM »
The Vermont Reformer newspaper called me for an interview about VKT and copyright extortion in general.  I had plenty to say.

Thanks for your support everyone.  We are working several avenues.  Unfortunately this is looking like it's going to be a long, drawn-out process.  If anyone would like to share evidence that VKT submitted photos to one of these websites please contact me at [email protected]

Not in my wildest dreams would I ever imagine myself fighting a battle like this.  So helpful to have your support.  Thanks again!

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Stock photo copyright extortionists always say to consult a qualified copyright attorney as long as his name is NOT Oscar Michelen.  That is part of the small print of their advice on that.  LOL.

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NewbieFan (NF),

You probably won't like some of the answers I will give as they lack some explanation and background info you may want. You will have to accept some of my answers at face value and rely on the high trust and credibility factor ELI has earned over the lat 5.5 years.  Unlike our enemies who regularly lie and deceive letter recipients hiding their true identities, we at ELI put our true names and reputations out there and tell it like it is.  I am sorry I won't be able to give the explanations you want but you can thank the lawsuit that was filed against me last year by a copyright extortionist to try to shut me up. It fundamentally changed how ELI operated, which is being very open and transparent with our readership. Unfortunately, that openness and transparency is also being read and absorbed by our enemies which is used against us.

Because of this, ELI can no longer reveal or explain everything it knows on this very free and open discussion forum. You will have to rely and accept what some of us say based on our ongoing credibility and reputations.

These are some important points I want to make and I suggest new readers pay attention.

1.  No one is going to tell you dollar amounts specifically. It is "forbidden" information but there are a lot of discussions about dollar amounts under different scenarios.  Just assume it won't break you and or send anyone into bankruptcy. If it did become exorbitant or rapacious to the client, few lawyers including Oscar would ever agree to an amicable settlement. Regarding Oscar's fee, you sign up for Demand Letter Program is the point of entry for most folks. 

2. You are reading way too much into these cases.  They were cookie-cutter cases designed to instill the fear and paranoia that you are beginning to exhibit.  Those cases were filed with the intention that the news would get out about them helping "motivate" future victims in settling up.

3. Believe it or not I don't always advise people to hire Oscar and neither does Oscar! For me, lawyers are bound by certain rules of conduct that non-lawyers don't have to.  For some people, they may choose to burrow themselves and hide out for 3 years. You don't need a lawyer to do that. There are pros and cons to any approach and is largely based on people's dispositions and personalities.

4.  I've said this for years and it is still true, statistically speaking, letter recipients have less than a 1% chance of ever getting sued.  Thousands (if not ten thousands) of letters go out ever year.  Assuming "only" 1,000 letters went out in one year and 10 people were served a lawsuit, That would equate to 1%.  Well, very few copyright extortionists have filed 10 lawsuits a year.  And just because they do doesn't mean they are "good quality" lawsuits.  Most lawsuits are filed for the purpose of "motivating" a settlement, not "go all the way".

5. Most lawyers work on a retainer and high hourly fee basis. This is why all the copyright extortionists tell you to consult an attorney.  They know what most attorneys will say and quote.  So this is the unwritten rule.  "Go consult with a qualified attorney (except if his name is Oscar Michelen)".

While Oscar doesn't work for free, he does things for our clients no other lawyer will for a fixed fee through the Defense Letter Program. Of course, that service doesn't include all the fixings such as a phone conversation but that is where I come in.  I don't give legal advice but I know how Oscar's defense letter program and office works and most of the relevant issues.

6. Many of the questions you are asking as to "why" this or that are psychological motivation questions.  The copyright extortionists are in it for the easy money, not the pain, angst, or negative publicity of lawsuits.  Those lawsuits filed were obviously a "cheat" to anyone who read them.  They were cookie-cutter and boiler-plate and laughable.  They banked on the fact that there are many people ignorant of the legal process and will roll over.  For example, most victims don't realize that a counter-suit can be filed once someone opens that door.  A victim did exactly that a few years ago and flipped the tables and filed a counter-suit against the copyright extortionist and then started taking measures to initiate discovery to uncover information and the true nature of their copyright extortion operation.  What started out as a "motivational" lawsuit backfired tremendously. They learned and read about ELI and put into practice what was discussed theoretically.  If someone files a lawsuit against, you can always file a counter-suit. And even if they are willing to drop their side, you don't have to drop the lawsuit. It was never revealed how it ended but shortly thereafter, that copyright extortionist left the business.

Most copyright extortionists are cowardly. Nearly all hide behind the corporate names, very few want to reveal or sign their true names because then people would start reporting and complaining about them on the Internet and their online reputation would be mud.  So they try to secretly get money without having to reveal who they are.  They want the money without the pain and aggravation.  The front line people are the ones who have to endure the consequences of the ongoing battles.

Regarding your assumption of having to hire a lawyer for a corporation, small corporations have an advantage.  A judgment against a small corporation means very little because they have few assets.  You close the checking account and a judgment against a small corporation becomes uncollectable.

NF, I don't know your personal situation but you are playing it exactly how Getty wants to with the overt paranoia. Some of your assumptions are terribly flawed because you don't have all the information that we do.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Help from the Eli Community Needed
« on: May 07, 2014, 03:09:09 PM »
Or lunch or dinner invitations!

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Yes, rock, it was mostly for ELI'e enemies.  I wanted to make them happy for one day out of the year.   :)

Matthew,

Is this an april fool day prank?

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I apologize for the confusion. My "announcement" was an April Fools joke. I appreciate your kind words nonetheless.

hi Matthew,

I'm glad I found you before you sold. Thank you for the enormous service you have given the community.

Caroline

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Because a few readers have emailed me about this, I want to remind people know that this thread originated on April 1. It was an April Fools joke to instill some joy and happiness into ELI's enemies who desperately want to "put me into the ground" and have a death wish for me and ELI.

Sorry to disappoint them, I plan on being alive and well for some time to come.

I thought the post was self-evident as being an April Fools joke but apparently not. This post should set the record straight that I am not going anywhere and information is still being fed to me.  So keeping the gossip and information nuggets coming. One never knows when ELI gossip will be spilled out into the public.

Alas, no benefactor has not yet elected to pay me a lot of money for ELI. So that means, I still own and manage ELI for the time being.

Sorry for the confusion to our ELI Readers.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: 4th Getty Letter
« on: April 08, 2014, 11:01:38 PM »
That is NOT a major reality check.  It is only one person's opinion and that person is not a "regular" fighter or opponent of Getty and their ilk.

Also, Robert brings up an important point.  Even if the price is "legitimate", it doesn't mean that any ordinary person would have ever bought or agreed to such outrageous pricing.

You seriously need to learn who you to listen and pay heed to.

That's a major reality check DavidVGoliath...ouch. Perhaps Getty's pricing isn't as insane as we all thought it was.

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