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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: A win for the little guy
« on: March 02, 2014, 03:34:22 AM »
TV station NBC affiliate King5 in Seattle, took shots of the exterior and interior of the Getty Images building.  The interior shot of the office was quite sparse.  You could barely see any people in this large office.

https://www.facebook.com/extortionletterinfo/photos/a.632064456847307.1073741829.168381253215632/632064463513973/?type=1&theater

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These new digital Getty extortion letters are follow-ups to the hard copy versions being sent out.  The idea is to make the communication process easier by compelling the recipient to step out and email back. 

That would be DUMB!  If someone receives a digital extortion letter, don't respond.  There is no benefit for doing so. 

They accompanying Getty email that contains the Getty PDF extortion letter reads something like this:

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: February-XX-14 5:XX PM
To:  [email protected]
Subject: blah blah blah | Getty Images Copyright Infringement Issue **ACTION REQUIRED**

Legal Department
XXXXXXXXXXX
[email protected]

Dear xxxxx
Case Id: xxxxxx

This email is a follow up to the attached letters that were previously mailed to your company on xxxxx and again on xxxxx. According to our records, we have not received a response to our prior correspondence. Unauthorized use of our imagery constitutes copyright infringement.

While Getty Images remains willing to work with your company to resolve this matter amicably, failure to either remit payment or to provide proof that a valid license was properly obtained within the next 7 business days will result in this matter being flagged for escalation to our outside representatives for further pursuit. This is your final opportunity to resolve this matter directly with Getty Images.

Please reply to this email or contact us at 1-800-972-4170 to discuss this matter. If you have any questions or concerns, please advise as well. Getty Images expressly reserves all rights and remedies available under copyright law. Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Best Regards,

Getty Images License Compliance

Getty Images Headquarters
605 5th Ave S, Ste 400
Seattle, WA 98104
United States
[email protected]

This email was sent to [email protected] which is shown in our records as relating to the subject matter of this communication.
Attached Getty_xxxxxxx.pdf
(Please note: If no attachment was received, it may have been removed by your ISP.)


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Apollo,

You are a Canadian. It won't be as easy for them to touch you as the folks here in the U.S.  Talking to Getty will get you nothing but grief and you will only identify yourself as low hanging fruit waiting to be picked off.  Don't be that fruit.  Be a mushroom and go dark for awhile and stay in touch with ELI.

Plenty of good info and support here. Come back and stay in touch.

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I was brought attention to the excellent communication skills of Jonathon Diaz, brand-new attorney for PhotoAttorney.com and Carolyn Wright.

http://www.photoattorney.com/attorneys/jonathan-diaz/

The recipient of this email contacted me and she was advised to sign up with Oscar Michelen's Defense Letter Program.  For $250, she is in good hands with Oscar. I am biased but it was the best action she could take.  This person made the initial mistake of trying to negotiate for herself without knowing any of the relevant issues and so she got firmly reprimanded by PhotoAttorney roly-poly, Jonathon Diaz.

"I am not trying to hold you up for money.  I am trying to enforce the United States Copyright laws.  It is that simple, and it is disingenuous to think that you can do whatever you want with zero consequences.  If anything you have held up my client and robbed him.  He makes a living and feeds his family through the licensing of his images and your use only diminishes his ability to do so.  Just because you used the image for educational purposes tells me that you lack a fundamental understanding of what fair use is.  Were you reporting on the contents of the image?  Were you criticizing the image?  No, you were using the image to illustrate something and that puts your use firmly outside the protections of fair use.  It is up to you as a business owner or blogger or whatever you are doing to make sure that you are complying with the laws of this country.  With that said, we affirmatively reject your offer of nothing.  Our original offer will remain available for the time indicated in my letter."

Carolyn Wright seriously needs to hire better attorneys.  Her attorneys have no sense of writing style and write these awful emails as if they will motivate anyone to cooperate with them.  Yes, if I received THAT email from Jon, I would immediately take my checkbook out and pay him, NOT!

And when I read the background and profiles of Carolyn's so-called attorneys, it is laughable.  They have these artsy-fartsy backgrounds and barely scratch the surface of legal experience compared to our own Oscar Michelen. 

Out of all the lawyers in the Photo Attorney group, Carolyn's experience and background is really the only one that deserves any kind of respect and consideration.  The rest are just newbie-boobs trying to find some kind of legal-related work to justify their expensive law degrees.

The Getty Images "compliance staff" aren't even lawyers and they are doing the same work as Carolyn's legal rookies. BuddhaPi took the time to check out Jon's background easily found in the Utah State Bar: http://copyright-trolls.com/site/photoattorney-com-has-new-hire-jonathan-diaz/

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I have a copy of the letter and the emails.  I can corroborate that it is the guy in Vancouver, WA.

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I most certainly did.  Doing the email or phone thing gets him nothing positive. I was informed that Turner has not even bothered to send one snail-mail letter.  Sending a letter to Australia is more than a 50-cent first-class postage stamp.  Turner, a U.S. attorney, wants an Australian citizen to pay up simply based on whatever allegations he cooked up via email.

Turner claims he will allegedly file a lawsuit Feb. 19.  An Australian lawsuit?  Or an American lawsuit?  If it is an American lawsuit, a process server will have their work cut out getting crossing the Pacific to get him served.  Or is Turner going to hire some Aussie solicitor and attempt to split a piece of the $15K?

$15,0000?  Turner must think he works for Vincent K. Tylor or something.

As Matthew probably already told you, you should refrain from email or phone communication over this.  And keep us posted on how it proceeds.

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Oscar and I were contacted by Christopher Zara of International Business Times for commentary on the recent "spree" of Getty Images manufactured, "cookie-cutter" lawsuits.

The article has been released:

Getty Images Lawsuits: Enforcement Or Trolling? Fear Of Letters Dwindling, Stock-Photo Giant Hits Federal Courts
http://www.ibtimes.com/getty-images-lawsuits-enforcement-or-trolling-fear-letters-dwindling-stock-photo-giant-hits-federal

Oscar and I actually have a LOT more to say on the subject but we will let this article speak for us..... for now.

Interestingly, Mr. Zara was able to get a comment from an unnamed "Getty spokeswoman".  My guess is that it could be Lisa Willmer but I haven't kept up with the latest roll call of the internal employee lawyers for Getty Images.

Gosh, who would have guessed I would make my public return to ELI just in time for this International Business Times article?  Isn't it interesting how the universe works with the "encouragement" of "Timmy Mack" from Seattle.

953
Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« on: February 08, 2014, 12:42:27 AM »
Congratulations to Greg Troy who started, organized, and nurtured this very important thread since July 2012.

This thread has been specifically linked by Christopher Zara as "first-person accounts" in the recent February 7, 2014 International Business Times article:

Getty Images Lawsuits: Enforcement Or Trolling? Fear Of Letters Dwindling, Stock-Photo Giant Hits Federal Courts
http://www.ibtimes.com/getty-images-lawsuits-enforcement-or-trolling-fear-letters-dwindling-stock-photo-giant-hits-federal

Thank you Greg for your contribution to the recent International Business Time article!

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SJD,

What a pleasant surprise you stopping by. I had planned on reaching out to you but I have been literally swamped with unexpected work due to this unexpected attack and accusation on me and ELI. I am guessing you found out about this latest fiasco from news announcements from Copyright-Trolls.com.

There are several announcements in quick succession that are being rolled out.  People within the ELI Forums will get advanced knowledge before a "formal" article is posted on the ELI Blog side.

Allow me to publicly state my gratitude for your friendship and support the last 2 years. Especially last year, when ELI faced its greatest legal challenge during its (then) 5-year existence.  ELI was almost shutdown during that tumultuous time but loyal and dedicated ELI Volunteers saved it and kept it operating.

You have no idea how much it means to me for you to make an appearance here and voicing your support.  As the reinstated Leader of ELI, I speak for the ELI Community that we are honored and privileged to have you here and caring enough to step in.

For those of you who don't know who SJD is, SJD operates and writes one of the most influential, respected blogs on the Internet covering and reporting on Copyright Trolls and has been instrumental in helping put an end to the reign of terror and fraud perpetuated and spewed by Prenda Law, one of the most despised abusers of the court system in extorting money from alleged infringers. SJD can be found at http://fightcopyrighttrolls.com. This blog is read by the "big boys" such as TechDirt, Ars Technica, EFF, and many others.

By comparison, ELI is "small fry" compared to the audience they reach. But we are a fiesty, tight-knitted group of extortion-fighters standing up for the little guys.

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NCS IP Solutions is old news.  They have no power.  They are only a collection agency.  As a collection agency, you need to report them as such.  They will deny they are a collection agency but it isn't hard to show that their primary business is in collections.

The least expensive option is to ignore it if the statute of limitations has expired unless you want to make some noise about it.

The email is from ncsip solutions. I am assuming they are a collection agency. The three years is past from the date of the first letter. The photo was immediately retracted with an apology and a reasonable offer to pay for the photo which was refused.

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Two new ones got listed in http://dockets.justia.com.  I haven't seen the actual complaints as I did with the other lawsuits but I suspect they will be cheap "cookie-cutter" complaints lead by Scott Wilsdon of Yarsmuth Wilsdon PLLC.

There might be more lawsuits coming that haven't been posted or listed.

Getty Images (US), Inc. v. Scott & Fenderson, P.A.
Filed: January 21, 2014 as 8:2014cv00137
Plaintiff: Getty Images (US), Inc.
Defendant: Scott & Fenderson, P.A.
Cause Of Action: Copyright Infringement
Court: Eleventh Circuit > Florida > Florida Middle District Court
Type: Intellectual Property > Copyright

Getty Images (US), Inc. v. Skiltrek, LLC
Filed: January 21, 2014 as 3:2014cv00080
Plaintiff: Getty Images (US), Inc.
Defendant: Skiltrek, LLC
Cause Of Action: Copyright Infringement
Court: Eleventh Circuit > Florida > Florida Middle District Court
Type: Intellectual Property > Copyrights

It appears that Getty Images Legal Dept. might have gotten budget approval from Jonathan Klein to move on this.  Doing some basic math, I am guessing they are investing less than $1,000 on every case they file.  Then, there might be another $500-$1,000 worth of lawyer's time to negotiate settlements.  Essentially, I see "break-even" as being an average $2,500 per claim.

They may or may not make money but they want to send a message about single image infringements.  And, of course, ELI reports on these things so they know we will get wind of it.

However, the minute someone files a COUNTER-SUIT, that could shoot their budget all to hell. In the counter-suit, someone would need to show that Getty Images is NOT using the court system in good faith.  They are using the court system as their collection agency.  The counter-suit would need to include photocopies of ALL the "cookie-cutter" complaints.  When the court sees all these "cookie-cutter" complaints with Scott Wilsdon's name, someone will take pause and a light-bulb will come on.

The delicate trick is if they will hit the wrong client who would go public and speak loudly. They would have the will and determination to file a counter-suit calling out Wilsdon's latest "strategy".  They file too many lawsuits and then they have an RIAA situation on their hands.

My guess is that plaintiff lawsuits by Getty Images would have to get the approval of Jonathan Klein or someone high in management because of the visibility issue and the relative rarity of lawsuits Getty is involved in.

Further, this recent "strategy" was likely approved by Getty Images Legal Dept.  Those inhouse attorneys bury themselves in the corporate infrastructure to hide their names and roles in this.  They let the outside lawyers like Timmy and Scott take the arrows.

I haven't kept up with who constitutes the legal department with Getty Images. Last time I looked, many of the bios were people who have never been in the outside world. They hide behind their cushy little desks trying to figure out ways to extort money generate revenues to justify their department's existence.

957
Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Getty filed a lawsuit against me
« on: February 02, 2014, 03:01:49 PM »
In http://dockets.justia.com, I now see a total of 5 new Getty Images lawsuits.  There may be more that have not yet been posted.

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No worries here.  Old threads are perfectly fine to add and reply to as long as they are relevant. We don't consider it bad etiquette on our forums.  Relevance is generally the key measure, not time.

I realize I'm replying to an old thread here.  I'm sorry if that's unacceptable etiquette in these parts.  I'm not familiar with this forum because I've never been in this type of situation before. 

Anyway, I'm wondering what ever happened in the original poster's situation here.  I see that this is from July so I thought maybe there had been some type of resolution.

I'm in a similar situation and I need advice.  I posted my story at http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/need-an-opinion-on-a-letter-i-received/msg17058/#msg17058

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Any discussion of Timmy's clients would automatically be moved into the McCormack Letter Forum as that is most appropriate forum going forward.

The Getty Images Letter Forum has generally been the default forum for most extortion letter discussions. Due to the large volume of posts in the Getty Images Letter Forum, there may be further segmentation depending on what we see coming in this year.

For example, we may eventually have to launch a Masterfile Letter Forum or even a Photo Attorney Forum. But, for now, the volume of posts doesn't appear to warrant it.

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