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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Heads up

« on: October 01, 2015, 02:48:00 PM »

Danni/Dee

Sorry I cannot write as eloquently as your words below but let's let the facts speak for themselves.
Your Words: shitty accusations, sarcasm, accusatory jerk, snarky responses, completely rude,
My comment; Still pushing your most popular post ever
ok enough said.

Folks this is an issue that occurred 5 years ago but it's still begin brought up by their Webdeveloper/writer/reporter Aka; Danni/Dee. for whatever reason wants to keep this conversation rolling; pageviews, pissed off, or business whatever the reason. I will spell out the facts one more time for the few people that are interested.

This issue from 5 years ago;  her employer Hawaii Reporter "a for profit publication" was using work taken from us (not copyrighted by) on 8 pages at different times 2010-2011. Example: Thursday, February 10th, 2011 | Posted by Panos Prevedouros http://www.hawaiireporter.com/did-honolulu-city-council-get-the-memo-from-u-s-congress

And if the link error out then it means Hawaii Reporter have 404ed it since I've posted this.
But there's another way to see them through Wayback Machine
https://web.archive.org/web/20110212164512/http://www.hawaiireporter.com/did-honolulu-city-council-get-the-memo-from-u-s-congress

They attributed the image to our website. Unknown to my copyright guy this was one of the few licensed images on our website. Why would Hawaii Reporter say they licensed the image but take it from us? No one knows. Godaddy's heavy handed policy shutdown their site (which they have since modified). Both parties had some fault but it's still being brought up 5 years ago and counting. Our track record speaks for itself. We've been in business for 17 years and as far as I know this is the big issue.

I understand this forum is slanted towards what is considered extortion but I and many creatives consider protecting our livelihood. I'll let someone else argue that point. Here's an interesting case to follow who people interested in copyright. http://petapixel.com/2015/05/27/photographer-suing-pinterest-in-federal-court-over-repeated-copyright-infringement/

And many of you are probably visiting this post for the first time trying to figure out who we are. We produce original content for travel guides and a little conversation of copyright from a different POV.
http://www.destination360.com/forum/photography-virtual-tours/

PS: Danni/Dee: In a previous thread you claimed our image here was shutterstock the accusation is false. http://www.destination360.com/stock-image-licensing. I shot this in Thailand.

I'm sure to see one more response but I'll let you have the last word. Mahalo!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Heads up Destination360 possible issue

« on: March 28, 2015, 06:44:09 PM »

I'm not familiar with VKT but will read up. I have read a bit about Getty and I understand where Getty comes from to a point but from what I understood is they backed down from aggressively going after people because of the bad press. I suspect the syndication/linking of low resolution images was one response to this.

BuddhaPi;
so just how does D360 do to protect their intellectual property rights?
We send out a settlement demand which in most cases resolves the issue. In some cases, they get forwarded to our legal counsel which
resolves them.

Are you actually demanding an amount that is reasonable?
What's reasonable? If we account for the time it takes to monitor our images, contacting individual, and resolving it.
Yes I'd say it's very reasonable.

An image worth 1k sure... I believe its the owner that should determine its worth. Much of this issue could be resolved if the person who takes the image were to just track down who owns the images before they use it. If you can't determine ownership than go buy one from any number of stock photo agencies for $2-5. Don't rely on some vague royalty free stock site that jimmy's cousin put up plastered with AdSense ads.

Cheers,
D360

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Heads up Destination360 possible issue

« on: March 27, 2015, 01:51:26 AM »

Dee aka/Dani,

Still pushing your most popular post ever "Your website is not safe on GoDaddy". This thread on ELI was brought to our attention and thought best that we comment as there's always two sides to a story. I cannot comment on an old issue from 2010 or 2011 regarding the use of a istock photo I do know there was and possibly still is scraping occurring of our images. We have refined our systems since 2011 and have mostly purged istock licensed images from our website. I do know of cases where GoDaddy would shut a website down for copyright issues which is heavy handed, but that's their policy.

The majority of images on Destination360 are shot by us. We are in the travel business, not the content policing business, but we do need to protect our content and our livelihood. "Dee" mentioned an image at http://www.destination360.com/stock-image-licensing belonging to Shutterstock that is FALSE. We own it and have it registered with a copyright filing.

We find that 90% or more of websites steal content out of laziness or ignorance but that it doesn't excuse the fact that is wrong. Most websites that use our content without permission are doing so with commercial intent. I hope more discussions on this topic good and bad will bring more awareness to the issue on both sides. Meanwhile, we will keep doing what we need to do to protect our intellectual property rights.