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« on: April 26, 2012, 10:57:24 PM »
Hi we got a letter the other day. So we join your exclusive club. Two images that were used in a mock up and were exposed while testing and the site got scanned. Since it was in development both sections of that page and the images were removed long before we got the letter.

I have several questions but one in particular, what does it mean on their site when pricing an image "Exclusivity: No Exclusivity"? "Contact us for exclusivity."

I've been reading a lot here and watching the video's and reading case transcripts. Thanks to you all for providing this.

It sounds pretty much like the options are, take a risk and see if they take you to court and put up with debt collectors, or try to negotiate a reduction and let it be an expensive lesson, or litigate it and let it be a very expensive lesson.

Am I in the ball park?

I like everyone here scratch their heads and wonder how do they come up with nearly a $1000. for a low res tiny image? If only I could sell an image for a $1000.!

Being a writer, designer and photographer like many here I respect copyright and trademarks.

Geez a C&D letter would have been plenty and we could have responded, thanks that was a mock up page in development and had already been taken and the content changed.

Thanks...

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Re: Newbie to the club
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2012, 11:25:25 PM »
Their insane numbers are designed to be profit centers, not simply loss recovery, with LOTS of room to negotiate. The collection clerks are in the "sales business" of trying to close these extortion letters.
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« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2012, 11:52:59 PM »
Thanks, yes I hope there is room, they did drop some but not enough.

So, as this is similar to the post about 2Clients, this is also my client who received the letter and obviously my financial responsibility, but as I understand it they won't discuss the case with me correct?

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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2012, 07:03:08 AM »
Might not work, but you try explaining to them the image was used as a plaeholder, before the site was live and was removed well before you got the letter, and then as an added bonus supply them with the link of their very own CEO on VIDEO stating he doesn't mind people using the images, as long as they are not making money from them...

They may very well drop the whole thing rather than risk more embarassment with the video
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« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2012, 07:31:54 AM »
My, my now isn't that interesting, I don't suppose you have a direction you can point me towards in order to view this gem? I did an initial gsearch and saw one about building one's company, is that it?

You folks are just fantastic!

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« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2012, 08:00:14 AM »
refer to this post

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/the-hypocrite-of-the-century!/

I need to see if I can grab this video in case it disappears some day..
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« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2012, 10:36:43 AM »
refer to this post

http://www.extortionletterinfo.com/forum/getty-images-letter-forum/the-hypocrite-of-the-century!/

I need to see if I can grab this video in case it disappears some day..

I found you all while doing some research for a friend who received a Getty letter.  I've directed him here, but I wanted to offer this public link to the mp4 of that interview as an initial thank you for all the hard work that you've clearly put in over the years.  Keep fighting the good fight! 

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2012, 10:51:14 AM »
Awesome Linnea, thanks for jumping right in!
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2012, 11:08:50 AM »
Linnea, thanks for sharing that mp3, which I just downloaded to my computer. That's one interview that I suspect will "mysteriously" disappear from the web. Getty Images does NOT want the dynamite in that one to go off.

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2012, 12:24:53 PM »
Excellent guys thank you! I saved a copy as well. I will view it this evening when I get home.

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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2012, 12:33:54 PM »
Just remember that the rights to that video belong to TechCrunch!    :D

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« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2012, 02:07:43 PM »
Just remember that the rights to that video belong to TechCrunch!    :D

lol! Awesome!
 ;D

I would so love to hear the response from Getty to this one!
http://techcrunch.com/tag/getty-images/

...... and then as an added bonus supply them with the link of their very own CEO on VIDEO stating he doesn't mind people using the images, as long as they are not making money from them...

They may very well drop the whole thing rather than risk more embarassment with the video
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« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2012, 06:18:03 PM »
Well I believe we will be quoting Jonathan in our response. I thank you for providing that link.

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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2012, 03:52:04 AM »
Linnea is absolutely correct. It's okay to keep a backup copy on your PC "just in case". But until the day TechCrunch takes the video down, we should use the TechCrunch video if at all possible.

This video will be a long-time classic for us. I was simply amazed when I first saw this video.

Just remember that the rights to that video belong to TechCrunch!    :D
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2012, 07:06:13 AM »
Not to mention TechCrunch will probably keep the video up if it is generating traffic, who knows, maybe someone from TechCrunch will see the hits coming from ELI and eventually come here for a visit and maybe do a little story on our fight.

Linnea is absolutely correct. It's okay to keep a backup copy on your PC "just in case". But until the day TechCrunch takes the video down, we should use the TechCrunch video if at all possible.

This video will be a long-time classic for us. I was simply amazed when I first saw this video.

Just remember that the rights to that video belong to TechCrunch!    :D
Most questions have already been addressed in the forums, get yourself educated before making decisions.

Any advice is strictly that, and anything I may state is based on my opinions, and observations.
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