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Messages - Greg Troy (KeepFighting)

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Excelent work Couch_Patato! 

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I want to welcome you to the forums Eddie, you should continue reading as there is a wealth of information contained here. 

If I understand you correctly your site was never actually live and was just packed with a placeholder image.  If this is the case I would let Getty know this and tell them that according to statements made by their CEO (is he still the CEO since they have been sold?) Jonathan Klein that Getty welcomes people to use their images up to the point that money is being made.  Let them know that this was provided in a template but regardless it was a place holder and the site is not live nor is any money being meage on it so they can pound sand.

Here is a link to the interview in question:
http://techcrunch.com/2012/03/22/for-pinterest-revenue-will-turn-copyright-questions-into-problems/

Hope this help, keep reading and again welcome to the forum.

You may also want to consider getting the support call with Matthew for 50.00 if you don’t feel like doing all the reading as he can get you up to speed very quickly.


Hello All,

I have read through many posts on the forum and pages on this site and want to first of all thank all of you for taking the time to share information and resources. Thanks!

My situation in brief: found a free template online and used it as a place holder for a domain name with literally no traffic. The only people who have ever seen the site are myself and Getty's robot. The intention was to put up a real website later.

Received a letter demanding a $1000 for the presence of one image in this template.

The image is in likely hundreds if not thousands of sites all over the net that use this same template. I have found many examples of the same template everywhere by just Googling the filler text that came with the template.

I compared the image in the template to the same image on Getty's website. The template takes the image and cuts it down by quite a bit then blends it with 2 other images to form a header image. Does this get any protection since it is a form of re-hasing or re-mixing of the original image (the same way remixed songs I believe are protected)?

I know even though it is a free template that won't help me much, but hopefully that fact that the site received zero traffic will.

Thank you so much for any insight!

Sincerely,

Eddie

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Dan B. Levine from Copyright Defense League
« on: September 19, 2012, 08:43:37 PM »
That's a very good article and way to go Matthew!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: ELI Copyright Extortionists Chart
« on: September 18, 2012, 07:19:57 PM »
You crack me up peeved ;D

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« on: September 18, 2012, 12:19:47 PM »
I would have thought that Getty would not just ignore a complaint filed with the AG, unless they are thinking that since there is not the volume of complaints filed with the Ohio AG as with the WA AG they will never reach the tipping point triggering an investigation.

Just a quick update for everyone, today I received a letter from the Ohio State Atty. Gen.'s office stating that they are still awaiting a response from Getty to my complaint with their office.

I wonder if Getty is going to send the same form letter response as they sent to all the other agencies I've complain to them about or if they are revamping it since they know I send a follow-up letter ripping them apart for not addressing the issues I brought up, a couple of out right lies and the major typos where they have my company name wrong as well as the amount they are claiming. I will let everyone know how Getty responds to this complaint.

I had incredibly busy weekend and was not able to get my packet together to send off to the Library of Congress's legislative Council that Stinger was able to provide but should have that finished up and off in the mail in just a few days and as always will make the letter as well as any responses available on my  Scribd account.

I have a feeling you will hear nothing but crickets from them from this point on..they have to many other soft targets and low hanging fruit to take advantage of...

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Great post and I like the ideas. You do a good job of keeping ELI growing and adapting to the latest technology that is out there, increasing our presences and reaching more and more people.  Keep up the great work!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Scope of ELI Chart: The ELI Project
« on: September 18, 2012, 11:58:09 AM »
That's great  :D.

I am also interested in learning about the ELI Academy.

The ELI Academy looks interesting!

Yeah we're gonna teach Seattle Attorney Timothy B. McCormack a lesson or two in regards to copyright infringement.

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I have been incredibly busy the last week or so and have just got around tonight to be able to watch these two episodes and as always you guys did a great job and a lot of good information. Thanks for all you do guys!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: An Experiment Against Getty
« on: September 17, 2012, 08:22:51 PM »
Just a quick update for everyone, today I received a letter from the Ohio State Atty. Gen.'s office stating that they are still awaiting a response from Getty to my complaint with their office.

I wonder if Getty is going to send the same form letter response as they sent to all the other agencies I've complain to them about or if they are revamping it since they know I send a follow-up letter ripping them apart for not addressing the issues I brought up, a couple of out right lies and the major typos where they have my company name wrong as well as the amount they are claiming. I will let everyone know how Getty responds to this complaint.

I had incredibly busy weekend and was not able to get my packet together to send off to the Library of Congress's legislative Council that Stinger was able to provide but should have that finished up and off in the mail in just a few days and as always will make the letter as well as any responses available on my  Scribd account.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: National Photo Group LLC Documents uploaded
« on: September 15, 2012, 12:14:30 PM »
Welcome to ELI forums and thank you for the clarification.  I hope you will stick around and participate in the forums. 

Are they in any way related to National Photographer Group, llc  http://www.thenpg.com/ ?

I've only read through the first document and it appears the photos they claim infringements for were filed in a bulk registration on one specific date, or at least that is how I read it.

National Photo Group, llc is in no way related to, or partnered with, http://www.TheNPG.com nor with the National Photographer Group, llc. National Photographer Group provides the best service and event photographers across the U.S for corporate, marketing, and special events. For more information about National Photographer Group, llc, please visit either http://www.TheNPG.com or http://www.NationalPhotographerGroup.com. Thank you.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Dan B. Levine from Copyright Defense League
« on: September 14, 2012, 08:27:24 PM »
Tell Matthew it is raise time again  ::) ;)

at least you worked!! for like pay...this ELI habit of mine is getting expensive!

I hate working late, look at all I missed today already! :(

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The people that receive these letters need to file complaints with the bar assn if they are from a lawyer for the way this is worded, that and pressure from ELI is what finally got Timmy to cool his jets with his letters.

It always burns me in these letters how they accuse you of manipulating the images to remove copyright information, watermarks or other identifying marks. While in almost every single case a simple search for the image will reveal it on free sites in multiple places. Hopefully people will start filing bar complaints for the language and tone of these letters much as they did to good old Timmy that made him change his ways and produce his new kinder gentler letter.

Greg, you're absolutely right. This is the most annoying part of the rote bluff because THEY CAN'T PROVE IT. They must know this unless they're totally deluded. They just throw that in because it sounds really scary that you could be nailed for a Federal crime, fined huge amounts of money, and thrown in jail.

Of course they fail to mention that the onus is on them to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the infringement was intentional. Proving intent in court is difficult and expensive and probably requires a more experienced IP lawyer than E.R.

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Copyright Defense League and Randy Taylor
« on: September 14, 2012, 08:22:57 PM »
Another instant classic SG!

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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Dan B. Levine from Copyright Defense League
« on: September 14, 2012, 08:19:49 PM »
I hate working late, look at all I missed today already! :(

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 lucia,

I was thinking about you and your blog situation the other day and had not seen an update as to what was happening. Have you been able to stop the copying of your blog? I found this thread very interesting and would be curious to know its current status if you would share it with us. Thanks! :)

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