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Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Get it Straight or Get Lost
« on: October 20, 2008, 05:55:21 PM »

I don't have a problem with questions but how they are asked makes a difference.  But let us go back to your original post.

> how do you claim to help these people with letter?
> you send form letter for $150 and then claim if getty pursues legally you will represent for $150 p/h
> If getty filed 100 of these at once how would you defend?
> it sounds like you are taking advantage of people .

You asked how we claimed to help people?  You trivialize the $150 service without getting all the facts?  You say it sounds like we are taking advantage of people?

For the relatively short amount of time I have been involved, I think I have assembled the most comprehensive research on the Internet and the Getty controversy and given it away freely.  I don't ask for anything and even the so-called "recognition" I get really is not entirely positive to my career.  And yet, I am insane enough to do it anyway.

Even your current reply has a tone of entitlement that you "deserve" an answer.  You don't.  I do my best to put as much information as possible.  I do my best to work with Oscar in a cooperative manner of which he has been incredibly generous.

And yes, I get very impatient and irate when people want to assume the worst of us.  If you wanted to ask a question, you could have asked without all the negative insinuations of how we can help people and how it seems like we are taking advantage of people.

Regarding FSB, same reason.  I tried to be open, helpful, and contributing.  Then some people started making cynical and conspiratorial comments about me and Oscar.  Then I try to unwind and clarify the thing, then other people are whining about wasting bandwidth.

So now, I have gone silent unless there is something serious to say.  I am thinking to myself that I am idiot for even keeping this site or discussion forum up at all and let Getty go after the legally ignorant or the spineless.

I took a stand and used my brain and spine.  I don't care if people want the freebies or hire Oscar.  What I definitely won't put up with is the conspiracy and cynical talk.  I also do not have to continue to explain and justify myself for trying to do some good.  That is simply ridiculous that I have to defend my efforts to provide resources to help others.


djsek Wrote:
> do you think your sarcasm helps?
> i asked legitamate questions..its called covering
> all bases
> for all your claims that the information is on
> site to be read no were does it say his costs rise
> from $150 p/h it said his normal fee was $450 p/h
> but willing to do $150 then you said "His rates go
> up from there." you show me where i need to look
> on this site that it says that
> and your attempt to belittle by saying $15,000? i
> was using reasonable # of people.fact is they have
> sent letters to thousands if not tens of thousands
> of companies.
> i believe someone on FSB posted a similar question
> and you got just as upset there..why? if there is
> nothing to gain from yourself or oscar and this is
> truly to help people why get upset.My mother
> always said if it doesnt apply let it fly.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Get it Straight or Get Lost
« on: October 20, 2008, 03:33:13 PM »
Personally speaking, I would tell Oscar to not bother with you and go find another attorney.  If I were him, I wouldn't even waste my time responding to you.  You are right, it can't be done.  Don't waste time asking.

Forget the fact that his contact information is all over this website and you are too lazy to email him or phone him directly.  You prefer to make negative and cynical insinuations anonymously.

I say, go defend yourself.


djsek Wrote:
> if you deleted post then you would be hiding
> info.
> just curious how he would defend me if they
> intiated proceedings upon me and 99 others in
> different jurisdictions

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Get it Straight or Get Lost
« on: October 20, 2008, 03:28:53 PM »
You are right.  It is too good to be true.  Our solution does not cover every contingency, every situation, or every client.  There are huge gaping holes in what we provide.  After all, Oscar and I don't have anything else to do in our lives except deal with Getty and all the people receiving letters.  Yes, you have to pay for legal representation.  And the service is absolutely finite.  There is no unlimited representation.

Who are we to dispute your basic math?  After all, $15,000 for 100 clients is more than enough to pay Oscar's salary, his staff, and his overhead.  He is making a small fortune for $15,000.

And of course, I never checked Oscar's background out.  He was the first sleazy attorney I could find that was stupid and desperate enough to take this on.

You are absolutely right.  It is too good to be true.  You have busted our scam with one anonymous post.  Our entire website covering the Getty scandal with our real names and faces plastered here lacks credibility.  You have exposed holes to our program for everyone to see.  I am sure our other readers will be grateful to you.  We have nothing better to do than to scam 100 people for the enormous sum of $15,000.  How slick are we to put our names and faces up along with this scam we have come up with.  Oh, wait.  You will accuse us that we are not we are and we put up fake names and photos.

I have every belief you are so smart that you can set up a "competing" website or service with a much better solution than we came up with.  Show us what you can do vs. you tolerating this website with our half-ass solution.

(For the humor-impaired, the entire post was written in sarcasm.)

P.S. Seriously, do us a favor.  Go defend yourself or go find your own attorney and stop reading this website.  It is clearly not up to your high standards.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Get it Straight or Get Lost
« on: October 20, 2008, 03:01:12 PM »
I don't like the tone of your email.  Why are you here?  We don't have to explain anything especially with your premise we are taking advantage of people.  I say, go defend yourself then and don't read this website.  You apparently have not read this website thoroughly or listened to the audio interviews.  We are not going to lay it out on a silver platter based on an anonymous posting.

Exactly how are we taking advantage of people?  No one is strong-arming anyone to use Oscar's service.  I certainly get no financial compensation.  I asked Oscar to devise a program to help people and this is the accusation we get? Oscar makes no promise to accept everyone or anyone.  I certainly would not be inclined to assist you.  IN fact, I am tempted to delete your message altogether.

The Getty controversy is already tense enough for me without someone like you trying to pervert our intentions.  I promise you, Oscar was doing just fine before he ever encountered the Getty controversy.  Knowing Oscar, he will simply cut it off if he cannot properly take care of his clients.  In any case, the $150 is for his introductory service.  His rates go up from there.  How is that for disclosure.

This website has plenty of information, more than anywhere else on the Internet. What have you done to help anyone?


Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Letter Policy
« on: September 01, 2008, 07:04:14 PM »
Many IP lawyers are not litigators.  I have found that good litigators know the reality of what ultimately happens with lawsuits whereas non-litigators can only speculate as to the practical outcome.  Oscar has taken the position that there would be damages in many cases.  However, the cost and aggravation of what Getty would have to go through makes actual litigation impractical.

Having been to court myself many times as a plaintiff, I can tell you that things do not often go your direction.  And if they do go your direction, sometimes your "win" isn't always very meaningful or significant.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: My Letter Policy
« on: August 29, 2008, 04:20:45 PM »

As the editor of this website, I am truly amazed and inspired by your Letter Policy.  Like you, I have been put in a position where I felt "someone" had to do something over an injustice.  I freely donated my time, energy, and resources in the Cobra Collection Agency Scam case ( and even went on local TV 3 times.  I contacted and met with the District Attorney locally.  I also contacted the Financial Crimes division of the Police Department.  I fielded and interview several dozen people during this time.  I did this because I had the good fortune and expertise to reach out and try to make a difference.  And I was quite successful.  The collection agency was put out of business within 2 months and the owners fled the state to Alaska shortly thereafter.

It is extremely gratifying to me that we have become fast friends and business associates.  I am proud to work and support you in this non-profit effort.  Further, the fact that you are helping so many people through this website makes me happy..  We have hundreds of visitors reading this website each month since it started.  Word appears to be getting out.  And you, Oscar, appear to be the leading recognized expert is this case.  To date, I have found no one close to your stature and credentials representing the "little guys".

It is wonderfully insane that you are charging only $150/hour to help defend people.  You have been a godsend.  It is because of your generosity of spirit and openness, I am proud to be associated with you in this effort.  I get paid nothing for maintaining this website.  All the emails I have been getting have been gracious.  I will have to share some of the kind words people have been submitting to us.

Oscar, thank you for generous Letter Policy.  I believe it is worthy of moving this information to the "front page".  It will happen very soon.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: how much for the letter
« on: August 27, 2008, 01:08:46 AM »
I have been meaning to put an update on the website of the cost of Oscar's letter service.  It is only $150.  Can you believe this?  He also includes a consultation beforehand and afterwards if and when Getty responds.  You also get that peace of mind of having a respected and experienced NY attorney on your side.  Oh, he has a pretty good sense of humor to top it off.  :-)

I am privileged to call Oscar my friend and business associate.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Template Monster and Getty - my story
« on: August 06, 2008, 05:10:07 PM »
In an earlier post, he said he was from Idaho.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Template Monster and Getty - my story
« on: August 04, 2008, 01:09:44 AM »
Nicely done.  It had not occurred to me to complain to our own home state's Attorney General.  It would sort of make sense that they would want to help protect your own citizens.

I extrapolate that to our own Congressmen and Senators might be called upon to help stand up for us.

Thanks for your contribution.  Our readers will appreciate it very much.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Template Monster and Getty - my story
« on: August 03, 2008, 10:30:08 PM »
This is an excellent story.  It proves that fighting back helps.  This notion that "somehow has to pay" is flawed.  You cannot simply tag someone else to pay if that party is not at fault.

Which state did you file a complaint to the Attorney General?  I would like to know to give them some public kudos and recognition.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Invoice/Sent to Collection questions
« on: August 03, 2008, 10:25:17 PM »
Getty Images is trying to be judge and jury as you say.  That is exactly why I am fighting this.  If I am to be found guilty, it will have to be done in a court of law where I can publicly defend and argue my case.

I have no false notions that most people will "roll over".  That is their perogative but it won't be mine.

Quite frankly, I have learned a lot of lessons from Getty Images, human nature, and how people different respond to accusations.

Getty Images Letter Forum / Re: Is this sound legal advice?
« on: July 29, 2008, 03:37:21 PM »
Hello ScoopsDad,

This website was created to deal with situations like yours.  There has to be some "common sense" applied by Getty.  They are taking the approach that everyone who receives a letter is automatically "guilty" and liable.  I don't buy that at all.

I cannot remember who mentioned it but some photographers have been know to sell the same photos to more than one company.  You may be caught up in something like that.  That is why Oscar and I recommend for people to ask for their claim of license and ownership.

I have not yet filed with the AG or any public officials because I have not been pushed to that point.  But it is one of the VIP contacts I have listed on our website.

Regarding debt collections, you need to read the links I have posted.  There are clear procedure and protocols for it.



I am flattered that you would take the time to respond to this forum.  I took the liberty to move your post to a standalone position so that it is better noticed.

I admittedly am not an attorney but I am a quick study and have had my share of dealing with legal issues (usually as a plaintiff, not a defendant).

As you probably know, there are a lot of upset people and there is all kinds of misinformation.  Because I have been drawn into this conflict, Getty Images has unwittingly compelled me to take more of a leadership role in assimilating information and truly learn more about copyright issues.  

In some ways, I have to thank them for this crash-course education.  It is gratifying to me that some people in the legal profession, such as yourself, have offered your professional opinion.  I felt the least I could do is give you some visibility and exposure as my thanks to you.

As you and I know, there are always two sides of a story and argument.  Getty Images has attempted to portray there case as irrefutable.  That is simply not true.

Speaking for myself, although you do not give "specifics", I have read a lot meaning in both of your opinions.  Sometimes, small distinctions make all the difference.

Oscar, if you have any other thoughts you would like to share or perhaps share what your fee might be for people who wish to consult with you.

Welcome to the Discussion Forum. Here you can share your story and discuss your situation as it relates to the Getty Images Settlement Demand Letter.

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